King Penguin: It's obviously a superb camera but using your head not your heart, why would you buy this over a Leica Q.
It's like buying a Nissan instead of a BMW!
......and before the fan boys comment, it's not snobbery, it's about driving experience, pride of ownership, down the road resale price and most importantly pre and post customer service.......the list goes on........
Sensor is all Sony has as an advantage. Other that that, they can't make a camera that is a pleasure to use, that invites you back. No, such thing can't happen. The very first A100, after they bought Minolta, was useful and a fine camera, because it retained lots of Minolta's charm. And that's it.
Leica Q seems to be more appreciated camera than any RX1, and far better thought out. Lens is also more sophisticated, much better ergonomics. On the other hand, many Sony's camera appear no more than half-thought-thru props, to feature latest Sony sensors.
Zvonimir Tosic: As some suggested, I shall too; with this insane resolution, they could have gone wider, 28mm or 24mm lens. And for this relatively small camera with nothing to grab on, how increased number of pixels will affect image quality? This camera will register even smallest hand or camera shake — is the lens stabilised?
Thanks ET2 and Randy.
As some suggested, I shall too; with this insane resolution, they could have gone wider, 28mm or 24mm lens. And for this relatively small camera with nothing to grab on, how increased number of pixels will affect image quality? This camera will register even smallest hand or camera shake — is the lens stabilised?
For beautiful looking cameras, buy Leicas.Although this G5X Canon is as ugly as a mud fence, in reality it may be quite acceptable, even user-friendly.
It would require a power of a supercomputer to run even 4 lenses. Where all the data would be stored too? I had once drawn and planned a similar idea, but it had three lenses only, wide, normal and semi-tele, each had it's own focusing point fed by the data from the widest lens. Each lens could be used separately, or in concert with others. But when the computing power had to be calculated to make the thing work seamlessly, and still remain compact, it was enormous. It is much easier to create just one great lens, insert one great sensor with enough MPs, keep the temperature down of the camera, save on power, and do trimming as needed from the wide lens. Like the Leica Q.With an array of tiny lenses there is no DoF control, no aperture control, no shutter control for each, all is just "snapshot photography" which is no fun at all.
Now they are not tied to any encumbering plans and delays of the parent family. Sony's corporate goals will not interfere with sensor production plans, for this or that reason, and the new business can pace its own agendas. No more exclusive "buying rights" through corporate parent barters, no more delays because of need for parent corporation books to look "prettier". Etc.
Mike FL: Ricoh is not Leica.
Ricoh is too conservative. It has corporate size, but niche thinking. Leica, on the other hand, is small and cannot think big in terms of production (therefore more expensive products), but!, it delivers in photographically much bigger, lasting and defining terms. Leica Q explains it all.
Zvonimir Tosic: Hell will freeze over before either Ricoh or Pentax announce anything that has 35mm FoV. Mind you, even 15 years into the digital, Pentax does not have a 35mm FoV lens. People want to switch, and ask for 35mm lens, and they always get same answer. Pentax has most crazy camera designs world has ever seen, appeals to customers with all camera body colours, patterns and gimmicks, but with a 35mm lens? No way!
Same with Ricoh. That is part of their ultra-niche thinking and the reason why original and buggy Fujifilm X100 with a 35mm FoV equivalent lens outsold APS-C GR in 8:1 ratio, despite GR being much more polished and bug-free camera.
It is obvious that market loves 35mm FoV more. I agree that a 1.5x teleconverter would make this camera 8 times more interesting, GR would sell more, and this kit would disappear in an instant.
That is why Ricoh will never deliver them. More cameras sold means more customer support, more marketing, and Ricoh, most likely, is afraid of it.
If you don't care, why did you care to input a wholly non-constructive remark? If you are happy with whatever a corporation that thinks niche does, be happy with it. But if you take a good honest look at the camera landscape in this category, it seems only one player really thinks, and that is Leica. It came with a camera that solved all the issues of all other large-sensor, fixed-lens mirrorless cameras, by introducing a full-frame, 28mm fixed fast lens camera that is so fast, easy to use and has enough pixels one can use comfortably up to 50-60mm FoV. Ricoh, in all his corporate power, could not think of that even in the second version of the same camera, and did nothing to improve or expand the use of it.
RidgRunner22, certainly GR is a very fine camera. It could be even more, with a little bit more thinking on Ricoh's side. Say, a 24MP sensor could deliver usable 35mm images at some 15MP! And 50mm images at ~8 MP! And 24MP sensors are as good as that already inside the GR! With a new imager, GR II could be an excellent new upgrade, a truly new possibility camera. So you see, if as a customer you do not provide the necessary feedback, you'll be left with what company considers its 'comfort zone' and will never try to deliver more.
joelakeland, do not dumb down the conversation, lowering it to the lowest public denominator, which is "if you do not like, skip it". No. There is some truth beyond everything, and if you do not discuss it, you may continue living in illusion. So why don't you listen to your own advice and move along if you don't like my question?
Hell will freeze over before either Ricoh or Pentax announce anything that has 35mm FoV. Mind you, even 15 years into the digital, Pentax does not have a 35mm FoV lens. People want to switch, and ask for 35mm lens, and they always get same answer. Pentax has most crazy camera designs world has ever seen, appeals to customers with all camera body colours, patterns and gimmicks, but with a 35mm lens? No way!
Samsung is not quitting camera business, apparently. But they are so desperate and angry at everyone else in the industry that they will do their worst pranks to make others leave camera business in disgust.
40daystogo: For Pentax's DSLRs, in terms of design, Pentax is like Samsung and Panasonic- no sense of artistic design. Their designs are ok, but not gorgeous or at least admirable.
All things being equal -- and that's often the case these days, with most cameras being able to take good shots -- then the appeal of visual design becomes an important issue for me.
Not at all. See this — it is the best DSLR lens design there is.
Pentax usually reserves best lens looks and designs for its own recipes. That is why this announcement lacks cluster; Pentax has rebadged Tamron lens. It's not worth making it pretty.
We should call it Penron lens. 6 months into the waiting for the FF camera(s), and Ricoh gives us a rebadged Tamron lens. I would expect from a legendary Japanese optical company like Pentax to conjure up a design and a lens of their own, something users can crave about and be totally excited in terms of the forthcoming FF.
Frank_BR: The DSLR market is on decline, but you can understand that Nikon and Canon want to explore the DSLR concept until the very end. Nikon and Canon are the hegemonic forces in the DSLR market, and they act as the captain who does not want to leave the sinking ship. In contrast, Pentax has no tradition in full-frame digital cameras. So it is hard to see the wisdom of Pentax introducing a full-frame DSLR camera in 2016. It will be as timely as the launch by an audio company of a turntable for vinyl records. It would be far more sensible if Pentax launched a mirrorless FF camera.
The only "bulk" capable DSLRs have, is that one of the abound prejudices which folks who have no idea of the demanding photography come with.
Rod McD: All the talk of it being a DSLR mirror-less hybrid might give a DSLR the option and benefits of an EVF (ie live view at eye level through VF and data) but it won't change the registration distance.
If Pentax are going to introduce a FF system part of the equation is the lenses. Some Pentax owners have film era lenses that will cover FF. The company sells a handful of digital era designs, including the new FF zooms they've announced this year. What I will want to see is the future primes. Pentax have a long history of offering compact high quality lenses and I'm hoping they'll be offering something like that in their new designs. Every other manufacturer seems to have abandoned compactness as a goal. If Pentax offer another load of massive "me too" f1.4 and f1.8 WAs, there won't be anything to differentiate them from brands I could have bought years ago. Let's see.
Registration is tied to A) imaging size, and B) obedience to strict optical laws. There was no lying to film. However, mirrorless systems cheat on the latter to appear 'smaller', but that is why mirrorless optics is an utter optical junk that cannot work without heavy software intervention. It is worthless.
DSLR market is well established market, saturated market, and people have trust in DSLRs more than any other cameras in capacity to deliver image quality and robustness. People will continue buying them, but not on regular basis. Smartphones are tied to 1-year and 2-years telecom plans, and therefore appear to 'sell more', and mirrorless cameras fill the gap for cheap, expendable plastic to have in purse. DSLRs will outlive mirrorless cameras.
Pentax is not going to make a video camera. That should be obvious to anyone serious about the photography.
Zvonimir Tosic: Ricoh was granted a patent on a translucent mirror with adjustable transmission rate. A camera built around that tech can be used as a DSLR and a mirrorless.
The amount of reflected light to visible light is 0-50%, the amount of transmitted light is changed in a range of 50-100%. With such a device you improve the efficiency of the autofocus sensor in low light by increasing the reflection rate, and improve PDAF of the image sensor by increasing the transmission rate — when SLT scheme with an electronic viewfinder overlay comes in place. The new high end mirrorless cameras started sporting very fast frame rates, which are difficult to obtain with a classic mirror; this technology is an obvious solution, embraces best of both worlds.
That is why some predict Pentax FF is the game changer. Pentax indeed came last, but, they did all the thinking others haven't.
ET2, that is true. However, Ricoh owns the patent rights for the invention and application. Ricoh also states the new FF will include many never seen before technologies. Also, in the very last report, they stated they will take extra steps to protect technical solutions and inventions in the FF. Why would they state that if all they will deliver is another boring D610?