Raist3d: Perfect just got more perfect ;-) oh Ricoh if you could do a telephoto version of your camera with some nice collapsible lens tech. Would just carry around those two.
The Ricoh GR is the best street photographer camera I have ever used. I am just not a wide angle photographer only bit it is so good I keep and use. Great tool.
For a telephoto converter/version, you and I can write to Santa. He is a less fictional entity than Ricoh Imaging's marketing team.
LarryLatchkey: Next generation GR with built-in view finder pleeeease.
I'm also really waiting for a G(X)R-style, compact, large sensor compact interchangeable lense system from Pentax-Ricoh.
I know I'm repeating (myself & other Ricoh fans), but I have to say once more that the handling of this camera feels so incredibly organic. It really makes you wonder why such few cameras have two wheels in that position for easy control of settings. I'm flirting with an OM, but I'm not sure if I find it too slippery, and the wheels are not so comfortable to reach. In contrast to a Ricoh, one-handed use is almost I'mpossible.
X100 you cannot slide in a shirt's pocket. That is the whole issue.The GR with an EVF becomes larger (unless some RX100MK3 EVF popup solution is made, but even for that it needs extra space somewhere). If they want an EVF to make, and with it camera becomes bigger, then why stop there? Why not a fast f2 lens too? Then the GR becomes a true X100. Not pocketable, heavier, not a X100 exactly in terms of form, but not the GR either. A new breed of a camera. I think they may introduce one such camera, but they will not call it the GR.
It will not happen (in-built EVF). An another type of camera is possible, but not the GR with an EVF, because then it would become an A6000 — as pointless as it is.
DPR thinks FL coating is news when Nikon delivers it, but when we state Pentax has done it ages ago, then suddenly no one cares about that fact.
drummercam: Pentax introduced flourine coatings a long time ago. From DP Review News, May 2009 -- "The front surface of these lenses is treated with PENTAX-original SP (Super Protect) coating, which applies a special fluorine compound to the lens surface through a vapor deposition process. This SP coating not only effectively repels dust, water and grease, but it also makes it easy to wipe off fingerprints and cosmetics." I have both dusty/rainy hiking and rafting experience with a Pentax SP-coated lens and have yet to touch the front element with a lens cloth.
Pentax recently added entirely new High-Definition coatings to its Limited lens series, and has another coating called aero-bright on some of its 645 lenses. I'm not sure that any maker tops Pentax for lens coatings.
You do not care. DPR thinks FL is news when Nikon delivers it, but when we state Pentax has done it ages ago, then no one cares.
What is S2? I have heard of V1 and V2 and J1 and J2. But S1 and S2? What are they compared to V and J?
From the first preview, it was rather obvious that sensor alone is not a problem with this camera. But its lens. With a better lens, even a mediocre sensor would raise the level of enjoyment and overall results. Then it might have been a camera that is a well-deserved update.
Unfortunately, they have decided for a bigger sensor and poorer lens, and that hardly exceeds results we get from a slightly smaller sensor coupled with a better lens and imaging engine. If there ever was a camera that clearly illustrates what compromises engineers must face, and then choose wrongly pressured by marketing "decisions" (large sensor, large sensor), this is the school-book example.
Excellent DPR. Now we have to believe what you thought you believe that you heard during the presentation, an information which cannot be found in the official information.I guess you also believed that Pentax mentioned you, or you thought so, in some unofficial talks over the interrupting phone communication that the AF-C works with the SR on, and you hurried to test it and show to everyone, despite the fact it is nowhere mentioned in the official manuals, and in fact, discouraged.Any chance you have thought you have heard Santa really lives on the North Pole, but you believe you have been misinformed about it by Mr Grinch?
But then, if software correction is a "bad" word in many people's dictionary, why kit lenses by other manufacturers never look so good in their results even after their software corrections?Perhaps because no amount of software and ingenuity can mask the fact how bad they are. They must be an utter piece of rubbish then, and yet, you are willing to buy, live and enjoy that utter piece of rubbish only because it is utterly cheap ticket to dreamland.Image taken with any camera is always an illusion, equally as an idea that any lens can be done cheaply. And yet, deeper the illusion, it seems, the happier crowd is. "Cruel" reality simply flies above the head because no one has guts to look at it with a lens of expectations and understanding totally undistorted.
Zvonimir Tosic: Nice, but never as beautiful as a dedicated 50mm lens. All right, who dares to be the first manufacturer to make a compact camera with a fine, retracting 50mm lens? Or something around 40mm?Film cameras were much more advanced / adventurous in this regard, with Contax T2 still being the king of the compact history's hill with its amazing 38mm Sonnar lens (IMHO, better than this Fuji's 35mm from X100).
Yes, Sigma is very nice, but still biggish. Definitely not compact.
Nice, but never as beautiful as a dedicated 50mm lens. All right, who dares to be the first manufacturer to make a compact camera with a fine, retracting 50mm lens? Or something around 40mm?Film cameras were much more advanced / adventurous in this regard, with Contax T2 still being the king of the compact history's hill with its amazing 38mm Sonnar lens (IMHO, better than this Fuji's 35mm from X100).
bluevellet: Cool feature if you already own the camera, but not really worth buying the camera for it. A real interchangeable lens camera is better and most m43/APSC mirrorless cameras are probably smaller with a 35 and 50mm lens attached.
No it isn't. You can hardly make a detachable 23mm lens of the size of X100's lens — just look how big is the Leica's Summarit T 2/23.
Boss of Sony: Is this camera better than Canon 70d or Pentax K3? Can someone help me? I have no idea.
It is very different. Most refined classic DSLR experience, which is also highly enjoyable, is I think one in the Pentax K-3. I believe Pentax makes best DSLRs and delivers top-notch DSLR experience, bar none.
One step below that classic and highly polished experience, and more towards the gadget level that appeases hordes, is the 70D. If you have canon lenses, maybe a good choice. But I think its OVF and usability is rather lacking, albeit there is enough gadgetry inside to keep you occupied for months.
A77 is different than both. I frankly do not understand the appeal of this line of cameras from Sony, because it is not built to provide any special aesthetic experience. A cacophony of technologies without a certain aim. I think Sony has lost the idea what matters in photography after a rather nice A100 camera, perhaps because most of it was designed directly by the ex-Minolta team.
Every single camera manufacturer applies for various patents monthly. I wonder why is this one taken out and presented on DPR? First I remember was a news "Sony is planning a possible firmware update", then this patent about a possible product from Sony — which in both cases is "news" about no news. A pinnacle of journalism, indeed.
nickthetasmaniac: DPR, I'm curious to hear your thoughts about the sustainability of using 1.2kg of aluminium to create a 94g shell? Even assuming the waste aluminium is reused, this still requires a great deal of additional energy. Or do these things not matter so long as "The result is an extraordinarily tactile, solid-feeling object."
Being a niche, artisan manufacturer does not excuse Leica from its environmental responsibility.
It is already recycled aluminium, most likely. But it has to be shaped in "bricks" or billets in order to use it. A frame produced in such a way is sturdier and will last longer, will be kept away from landfills for a long time. There are more benefits in this approach.
pedromeyer: Leica, seems to do a few things right, and then many more wrong. Get better advisors for starters. The ones you have, suck. You are not Apple, let us get that matter out of the way, no sense imitating them.
What would you change in T Type? It was obviously thought from the perspective of the iPhone, and imagines in terms, "How would an iPhone work as a real camera"? The proposition is not bad in itself, as many people are at home when using iPhones, and yet, many cannot grasp the entire complexity and use of their "real" cameras. Simple menu in T Type reveals everything, without magical combination of buttons to be pressed.Times change. iPhone did change photography, and it is a worthy cause to build and continue on iPhone's experience onwards, rather than fighting it. I personal think Leica did many thing right with T Type.
Bene Placito: I am using a Leica X Vario and enjoying the experience.
I will be interested to see how the T performs.
At the moment the X Vario is doing all the T seems to offer.
I think T Type does more than XVario in terms of versatility. However, XVario may have a slightly more expensive lens.
PhotoNaturally: Not everyone has 2 thumbs, so I think that one front dial and one back dial will still work better.
That is a valid criticism. And I think many would agree with that. However, like in case with iMacs, the vital ports thrown in the back (not even available on the sides) for the sake of "cleanliness" of lines and material. Form before function, than can be annoying to some degree.
Zvonimir Tosic: Sample images provided by DPR (it seems no matter which camera they test) are almost the worst one can find on the net, random in terms of composition and unappetising in terms of light. For a much better idea on what T Type Leica lenses and imaging can do, take a look at the review at Red Dot Forum with heaps better and varied sample images taken with both kit lenses:http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/343-Leica-T-(Typ-701)-Review
They are busy reviewing gear, obviously, but they would definitely benefit from a few workshops in photography.
Sample images provided by DPR (it seems no matter which camera they test) are almost the worst one can find on the net, random in terms of composition and unappetising in terms of light. For a much better idea on what T Type Leica lenses and imaging can do, take a look at the review at Red Dot Forum with heaps better and varied sample images taken with both kit lenses:http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/343-Leica-T-(Typ-701)-Review