With extra wide design gains are numerous: increased stability, extra shutter speed gain, extra battery life with more room for battery, better heat dissipation, etc. Reminds of X-Pan, which was one of the most pleasurable cameras to use.If Sigma is using new Fujitsu imaging engine (and most likely they will), with extra Foveon added magic this could *the* compact of the year. Excellent work Sigma — designing a design form that suits the best purpose of the current tech, and not designing some functionality that is a slave to a certain old form (like retro-fad of Fuji and Nikon Df for example).
Donnie G: IMO, it would make no sense at all for Pentax to produce a 35mm based full frame camera when all they really need to do is keep polishing the capabilities of their excellent 645D medium format system. Sell to high end enthusiasts and pros at around $10,000 new, and leave it to the used camera market to acquaint other users, in particular, those who are thinking of investing in a 35mm FF model, with the image quality to be had from an affordable medium format system that handles as well as 35mm systems. In the Pentax world, leaping from APS-C straight to medium format could prove to be a competitive advantage that no other manufacturer can offer. Pentax just needs to get their 645D into as many hands as possible. Word of mouth will do the rest.
Pentax will introduce an FF camera as soon as overall FF market share reaches the double digit share of the overall camera market. FF market share is still below 10%, and is already crowded, for years already.FF cameras do not sell that well at all. They are still expensive and less versatile. Maybe one day they will sell a bit better, but not yet. The whole FF bubble is overly inflated by loud enthusiasts and pixel-peepers, nothing more. The FF appeal is lacking still, it is not tentative, and a forceful push into the FF by deliberately diminishing the APS-C offer will have bad side-effects for the entire camera manufacturing industry.
So, it supports 8K and 4K video too.I would not be surprised; from day one, Ricoh admitted they would love to deliver 645D with at least 4K video capability.
zorgon: Am I the only one who wants to see a full frame GR?
I'd want something like the sony RX1 but with the ergonomics of the Ricoh GR and much more compact f2.8 lens. It was possible with the film GRs of old so why not digital?
Yes, it is weather and dust resistant.
Ayoh: Looks like it might do video judging by the Mic and Speaker holes visible on the left side of the body
And the new zoom has built in stabilization too looking at the switches
Should be a really impressive piece of kit, and 1/2-1/3 the cost of the competition.
There is mic input indeed, visible on both sides of the camera. Original 645D did not have them.
bossa: I was hoping for a mirrorless version to get the size down to a D800 or D4 but they've stuck to the previous format.
Flange focal distance of the Pentax 645 MF system is some 71mm. That is more than an inch deeper than most 135 format DSLR mounts!Therefore the design of the 645D isn’t as bad as mere wishful thinking would like us to fancy. In fact, the body itself is well balanced, and easy to handle. Try once for yourself — it is easier to handle than D800.
Zvonimir Tosic: Tilting screen, same image processor and AF as the K-3 DSLR? Dual SD slots? Weather sealing too? Perhaps even video recording, using some fantastic MF glass?Sounds delicious. If they pull out video somehow, this will be awesome!
Or, if they keep the ol' available at a half the price (some $3000-ish) for a long while.
Tilting screen, same image processor and AF as the K-3 DSLR? Dual SD slots? Weather sealing too? Perhaps even video recording, using some fantastic MF glass?Sounds delicious. If they pull out video somehow, this will be awesome!
Everyone seems to ridicule Hassy about this and similar cameras. But in reality, all this tells more about Sony's own attitude towards their own IP and the level of respect, service and integrity for their own users. I.e., if Hassy is able to better Sony's user experience using same components, then what was Sony's goal in the first place?
Crazy times. Fujifilm designs a mirrorless camera that obviously wants to fool audience it's a DSLR. Pentax redesigns a DSLR not to look like a DSLR but like a post-modern mirrorless camera. Nikon imagines how a classic SLR would look in the age of digital, and Olympus imagines how a new breed of mirrorless can be seen as a gap between the DSLR and the typical mirrorless. Sony, on the other hand, already thinks what's next out there no one has tried beside DSLR, SLT and mirrorless, to scrap everything they've done so far and introduce that.
Zvonimir Tosic: No new camera concept should ever deserve a straight Gold. Remember the Fujiflm X100? Wonderful potential, but lots of annoying bugs and idiosyncracies. It won a high Silver Award still, thanks to its promise. But in a next iteration, the X100S won the Gold, because the X100S is a polished up X100. It lived up to its promise.To Sony, the idea of incremental improvement on same concept is strange, as no single system camera of theirs ever got a refinement without radical technology and concept change, that has moved it into a totally different category. The A7 cameras are no different. So the Silver award was a generous gift.
Both D3 and D700 were continuation of the same well established DSLR line from Nikon (D1, D2, D2x, D100, D200, etc.).
No new camera concept should ever deserve a straight Gold. Remember the Fujiflm X100? Wonderful potential, but lots of annoying bugs and idiosyncracies. It won a high Silver Award still, thanks to its promise. But in a next iteration, the X100S won the Gold, because the X100S is a polished up X100. It lived up to its promise.To Sony, the idea of incremental improvement on same concept is strange, as no single system camera of theirs ever got a refinement without radical technology and concept change, that has moved it into a totally different category. The A7 cameras are no different. So the Silver award was a generous gift.
With the price in Japan around ¥180,000 for body only (some $1,700, as Digicame Info tells us, and they are seldom wrong), real and well shaped up DSLRs (pun intended) like the K-3 will look like a tremendous bargain. I wonder why Fuji didn't come up with X-Pro2?
undergrounddigga: Funny that, every other company is trying to emulate Oly's design of the OMD .. whilst Oly users wish they had a mirrorless (PEN) camera with the viewfinder in the corner :)(or perhaps people would want both type of cameras).
I'm not a fuji user, but from a design point I much prefer X100 or X-E than this.X100 with its dual viewfinder is just stunning, only if they released a 50mm (FF equivalent) F1.4 with speedy autofocus ..
You mean, film SLR cameras were designed like this?
Oh goodness, how wonderful: one more mirrorless system camera manufacturer embarks on the DSLR-style of design! Very, very original.And yes, the m4/3 and Fujifilm crowd will crow that DSLRs are matter of past and should be superseded by hordes of mirrorless cameras ... that look like DSLRs.God, isn't today's camera market a perfect recipe for a nut cake! :)
That is why it has "leaked", and no less than with an "ordering page". To check the pulse most likely. Are not we tired of leaks that are not leaks at all?
waxwaine: My problem with OMD-EM-1 is that Olympus, with it, betrays the compactness promises of M4/3. OTOH, Panasonic GM1, with it crappy control interface, represent a more important advance for this system.
I think there was never "the compactness promise" per se, but there was unrealistic expectation brewing in the entire mirror-less hype, which prophesied cameras of insane performances and so small they only fit hands of toddlers. The whole premise was false.EM1 is a camera large enough to be used by adults and be enjoyed, and I don't understand why should be criticised if it doesn't fit the narrow frame of unrealistic expectations? In its size it comes close to a more compact DSLR size, and that is the reality of things.
As one user noted:
How bizarre. "Best" in what way? How to judge when so different?– Is this Ford better than that Pepsi?– Maybe this movie is better than that pasta sauce?– Or perhaps this washing powder trumps that alarm clock?
"Best of the best camera" — across cameras of totally different applications, use, design paradigms and concepts for entirely different end goals — is an equally absurd attempt as choosing just one gold medalist at the Olympics to be "the best sports person of the Olympics". It is totally denigrating and mind-numbing.
beholder3: Last year - with Olympus, Canikons in the lead - the poll ended on January 1st.http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/01/best-camera-of-2012-results
This time around it looks like it'll run for how long...?
The poll stays for as long as it is needed for Nikon to release the D400, which will be reviewed immediately, creating a buzz that will then change the graphs just enough to make the major advertiser on DPR very happy. :)
nicolaiecostel: Pentax is slowly fading due to the fact that they boxed themselves into a corner they can't escape. Olympus faded on the SLR market but jumped at the right time in the m43 boat, Samsung and Panasonic gave up on their SLR dreams for the better. Not Pentax. They keep selling "hey, look at me, I'm slightly better than that entry level/mid level canon/nikon, for less $$".
At least Sony took a different road to Canon and Nikon when they saw they cannot compete.
The SLR market is shrinking considerably and Pentax is still banging the same old drum, making a better Rebel/D5100 and a slightly worst but cheaper 7D, paired with the ubiquitous 18-55, in all it's itterations. The fact of the matter is, most Pentax users I know still use the kit lenses, and with Pentax glass getting that much more expensive lately, it's really hard to justify adding quality glass to a body that wants to sell itself as a performance bargain in comparrison to C/N. Time for Pentax to step up their game.
"At least Sony took a different road to Canon and Nikon when they saw they cannot compete."
For your information, Pentax is the company that defined the SLR look. They have invented this whole game. So when you say a SLR, it's the Pentax that was copied by all other companies. Pentax has nothing to be ashamed of, or be forced to withdraw, or do anything else — in the game that they have invented. Same as Apple will never withdraw from the personal computer game they have invented (despite others selling more PCs than Apple, or others selling more DSLRs than Pentax).Pentax also proves they can make a better DSLR than anyone else, if they like, and whether you, or anyone else, dislikes that fact. So, step up your game ... and do some homework. :)