Fuji is on fire -- good times and lots of optimism. A beautiful new lens.
joshxiv: Well, I hope they 'Kaizen' it further and add an on-lens distance scale.
For those of us who set it pre-focused on the streets, the whole dials thing is kind of rendered less useful if I still need to look at the LCD screen anyways for the distance scale and DOF scale.
That is the problem; this is not a real street camera because all the time you must check the distance on LCD / EVF. As is now, it is more a retro-like amusement for grandpas who like showing off and take one, carefully posed shot a day. I had one, and felt like a grandpa with it. The trouble is, this is then not retro camera in its functionality — as any film rangefinder beats this — but it is a very modern camera with a penchant for clumsiness where not necessary.This camera needs a totally revamped, properly manually focusing lens.
As for the entire market segment of these fixed lens, large sensor cameras, it is so poor and unexplored.
EHDesigns: Hmm, Could it be a repackaged/re-branded PIXPRO Kodak SD1 from JK Imaging?
It is not not .. what? It is just sprinkled with extra seasoning it look a tad different, but even the specs and lens and basic shape are same.Same as the Pentax MX-1 is same as Oly XZ-2 and is in truth a Sanyo OEM product.
Xentinus: It smells Pentax lol
It's not Pentax. It's a rebadged and cosmetically altered OEM product. http://kodakcamera.jkiltd.com/Americas/cameras/activeCam/sp1.php
It does. Same as in case with that cheap long zoom bridge camera repainted as Pentax.
Zvonimir Tosic: This camera would've been a real gem if it had a lens with real, manual, well-dampened, yummy helical focus with distance scale, and not focus by wire. Then it could be used off the hip, manually prefocused, etc, without looking at the LCD/VF. And instead of an EV dial on top, a small LCD on top, that summarises all crucial parameters in 2 sqare cm, not looking around the entire top plate plus lens.Everything else is very much polished up by this model.
Yes, that could be nice to be fixed too. Again, a revamped lens would probably be needed anyway if they ever change the sensor to anything more serious. Send them suggestions...
theprehistorian: I find this disappointing. I liked the styling and general concept of the X100S, but the output from that weird 16MP sensor is an acquired taste to put it mildly, and the lens desperately needed improving to sort out its flare issues. This is a dreary, lazy update.
Fuji cannot just "step up" the sensor. It is partly because of their intense marketing investment into the X-Trans. X-Trans is a marketing name, a buzz, and they are hugging it. Now they must use those sensors for quite a while because that is how they share components to keep the cost down. If you expect it to be changed soon, nope, that won't happen. If you love Fuji, you will must love 16MP X-Trans sensor for at least 12-18 more months.
This camera would've been a real gem if it had a lens with real, manual, well-dampened, yummy helical focus with distance scale, and not focus by wire. Then it could be used off the hip, manually prefocused, etc, without looking at the LCD/VF. And instead of an EV dial on top, a small LCD on top, that summarises all crucial parameters in 2 sqare cm, not looking around the entire top plate plus lens.Everything else is very much polished up by this model.
Actually this is a cross between the mirrorless design we see in many manufacturers, and a DSLR design we don't so often (like 100% pentaprism). Users familiar with the mirrorless have an interface and grip similar to that of a mirrorless world, and DSLR users have many benefits of the DSLR.If you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense.
What is the 14-42mm lens mentioned next to MSRP?There is no such lens in the lineup. Sounds more like m4/3 lens copied from somewhere ...
It is 250g lighter than the K-3. Also lighter and smaller than the K50/K500.Different engine, new UI. Can this UI be upgraded in the K3 via firmware?
toomanycanons: I like the 20mp, built-in stabilization and the faux-no-AA-filter mode. Does Pentax have other cameras with this sensor? Only time will tell about the IQ and noise factor but...I like this camera!
I believe this 20MP sensor is now de factp manufacturer's replacement for the old 16MP one (from the age of K5, which made that sensor particularly famous). I believe we can expect future Pentax cameras to employ 20 and 24 MP sensors.
Alex Sarbu: "The K-S1's closest competitors are the Canon SL1 (EOS 100D) and Nikon D3300, both of which have lower MSRPs (not to mention street prices) and are equally capable.""Equally capable"? Even the viewfinders, or the AA-less viewfinder (with AA filter simulator)?Street prices shouldn't even be mentioned when talking about a newly announced camera's MSRP.
Closest competitors in DPR's own mind and their own categorisation of things, not in real life. This camera is obviously designed not to conform stereotyped categorisation.
Price is not a negative point because the cost of K-S1 is not associated with any similar model. The design is all new. Say, Nikon D3300 is cheap because there is nothing in it that makes it stand aside from D5xxx whatever. It is even more dumbed down that any Nikon's model. Same goes for Canons.The K50 was cheap because it was built on K5, K5II, K30, etc. tech. This model is brand new, and it involves all new imaging engine, new parts, new tech, new design. You cannot compare that approach of Pentax with Nikon's or Canon's strategy of putting technological waste in low end products.
Mike Hiran: Some positives: - being able to use my smart phone for live view, change focus and adjust cam settings with an optional Flu Card- no AA with AA simiulator- small compact size- has in body lens motor and compatibility with all k mount with stabilization for all of them- pentaprism viewfinder w/ .95 magnification
Some negatives- more expensive than the k50?! - single control wheel- ergonomics seem iffy- kit lens does not match style of the camera - I think a small prime like the DA40, DA35, or DA21 would look awesome on this, especially in silver
Some whatevers- led lights? don't like em, turn them off
Price is not a negative point because of the cost K-S1 has is not associated with no similar model. Say, Nikon D3300 is cheap because there is nothing in it that makes it stand aside from D5xxx whatever. It is even more dumbed down that any Nikon's model.The K50 was cheap because it was built on K5, K5II, K30, etc. This model is brand new, and it involves all new imaging engine, new parts, new tech. You cannot compare that with Nikon's or Canon's strategy to put technological waste in low end products.
DPR's final words are off the base and common sense, because first the camera is established as a mid-level camera -- as Ricoh Imaging stated -- but then DPR compared it to Nikon's and Canon's entry low-level cameras and their price.
Well, such a paradoxical conclusion. Reminds of the same problem they had with the Q7. Can we expect better from the DPR than its usual guesswork? Is Pentax brain really guilty for challenging common misconceptions about cameras and how they should look?
Put a Canon logo on K-S1, and odes of praise would follow, "Canon decided to put a 100% view pentaprism, removed AA filter, uses brand new sensor and not one 5 years old as usual .. whoa! Camera of the year!"
The trouble with LEDs is that in a month of using the K-S1, in dark, in twilights, in concerts, in birthday parties, doing more work with timer and so forth, you will start wondering why on Earth nobody thought of LEDs before?!
Because on K-S1, LEDs they can be tuned off, if you really don't like their use, but in no other DSLR (or any other camera for that matter), they can be tuned on.
Oh please people, can we stop that silly 1" sensor saga? It is not possible physically to have such a lens and its reach and aperture and keep the compactness. The difference in sensor size is easily overcome with better optics and better ergonomics that will allow you have a camera in hands that is more enjoyable to use, and will make a difference between a camera one can brag about, or a camera that takes the shot effortlessly.
Test shots with Nikon lenses, Fuji lenses, Canon lenses.When will DPR post samples taken with HD DA 20-40/2.8-4 Pentax lens using a K-3 Pentax camera?
Leica is the only camera maker that does not need any logo on an M camera to distinguish it is the Leica camera. Of course Fujifilm must put Fujifilm, because people could be mistaken Leica has suddenly gone cheap, or that Contax has resurrected.
Same for all your mirrorless and DSLRs; only thing that tells them apart is the logo on them, as without those logos they are virtually all identical pile of glass and plastic.