Kill Kodak, you kill film photography. Kill Sony, you kill digital imaging. I would not be surprised if Kodak was not deliberately sabotaged and expropriated, at least to an extent. So when one day Sony Imaging goes bust in the deflationary economy, like Kodak did, imaging industry goes the way of film, at an accelerated pace.And we are back to the drawing board, pencil and pen. So we should invest in Steadtler's and Faber Castel's shares? :-)
wolfie: Interesting to see the positive enthusiasm for more size and weight as an advantage over mirrorless ...reminds me of how dinosaurs (dino-slrs) failed while pesty little mammals took over every niche they occupied. But hey if you want to persist with a viewing system that only existed because of film, your welcome to the size and weight penalty - which says nothing at all about about supposed better image quality.I think between Ricoh & Pentax they could have done something unique in mirrorless, maybe in a few years 😣
Do you understand why there are no quality mirrorless alternatives for FF DSLR? Because the lenses would be same size. The body — if it is to be robust, would be similarly big. See Leica SL — it is chunky camera, and there is no way to escape that. If one wants robustness and quality, there must be weight to it. Everything else is a consumer joke.K1 from Pentax is not a consumer camera — by everything we see, it is serious pro stuff, and specs won't disappoint. Most likely, it will shred D810 to pieces.
CameraLabTester: Full Frame?
Seriously, Ricoh... you should have just gutted the innards of an MX, replaced it with digital soul, and made a splash.
But instead... you just made a spray.
That would be the XT1 Pentax never made, but Fujifilm delivered. The entire higher end mirrorless exists because DSLR makers, including Pentax, were blind to the obvious: current DSLR design is boring, singing same tune for almost 30 years. Nikon Df was the only step aside. Pentax K-S1 also, but it was ridiculous. If Pentax instead made MXD, many DSLR users would never even consider mirrorless alternative, like the XT1 or similar.
There is a need for a simple, less complicated camera in the film Pentax M body style. Users vouched for it since the dawn of digital. If not FF, then crop, to supplement excellent and tiny DA Limiteds. I have a gut feeling Pentax wanted to do that, but some of their corporate owners scrapped the plan.
robbo d: Scary thing is weight..... k3 is already slightly heavier than a D750 body. Add battery grip, high quality glass and flash X2 when doing weddings ..... i hope its not too much of a tank.Might have to add a gym membership.!!!Pentax k3/k5 are small in form but theyre little heavy suckers ..... so if barney thinks it looks bulkier than D750 ... hmmmm
Pentax will name the camera higher number than D750 and that will fix the weight perception problem. K790 or K800 would a terrific blow to Nikon. Even better, K820, to steal a few sales from Nikon.
vscd: Thumbs up for Pentax. With the knowledge from their history and a great mediumformatbody by his side, this one will rock. Seems there is still someone developing DSLR Cams in the right way.
Let's have the latest sensorgenrations in it with IBIS and some new inventions in the OVF ;) Go Pentax!
I think you are right. Canon and Nikon have totally messed up DSLR camera and lens in the last 10 years. They have become dispassionate monstrosities. No nuance, no tactility, no emotion, no art at all: their DSLRs are chunky bricks designed by a hired ex-Soviet economic politburo, and their lenses motorised exhaust pipes designed by remnants of an ex-German rocket development team left in Japan.When they set the 'professional' standard, no wonder camera business goes down the drain. We have bad role models.
A camera of this calibre has "AUTO" on the main dial?I suggest erasing that, and adding "Canon user" mode. Or "m4/3 folk" mode.
surlezi: No EVF no buy.
It is both OVF and EVF. You will be surprised. Pentax has engineered a technological breakthrough. First ever DSLR that enables sensor feed through the OVF, and instant visual feedback on all changes in settings done through the dial, including, how the SR and ISO effect the final image.
It will have the EVF.That knob on the right reveals that controls on it must feed on direct visual feedback from the sensor.
→ A revolutionary DSLR: Composite mirror + EVF image (probably).Those two new big dials could be full control of the EVF image overlay inside the VF, because camera sends both sensor output and mirror image at once.One dial sets the control, the other fine tunes it, and the button on top confirms it. You have a total control over image preview in the VF before you press the shutter, and can show control and how it affects the image output: 1. how crop looks like, 2. grids, 3. eV compensation, 4. different levels of SR, 5. how ISO affects the image, 6. HDR, 7. See where highlights are, etc. You have an instant visual feedback, far better than using the rear LCD, as in theory, mirror image and sensor-fed image could be combined in one as well and that is possible in OVF only. And of course, no problems with outside light messing with LCD-only preview.Ideally, variably transparent mirror in that case could also be used as a sort of built-in ND filter. A total portable field darkroom.
JackM: TLDR. Why would anyone buy this over a Sony a7 series other than for the jewelry factor?
M is just one way to photography, and the problem is that people associate Leica with M alone. *That* may hurt sales. However, Leica had many ways before, including the original SL, and the R range of SLRs. Many still consider R lenses to be best made ever. With an SL, Leica does not 'copy' Sony, but itself and its own tradition. It is Sony who has no photography history whatsoever, who copied from everyone else (A7 looks like a concoction between Pentax K1000 and a Leica SL), and the word 'commitment' is therefore not in their vocabulary.
Leica does not waste time on making cameras that scavenge on other system's lenses, and if Sony did it uncompromisingly right, and not cutting corners from the beginning, this is what they would do too. There is no other way to quality.But Sony had no guts to do it: it would be too expensive, too committing, just the thing they want to avoid.
Zvonimir Tosic: Thank God for Leica; they are delivering things as they should be done — right and without cutting corners. It was about time that someone teaches Japanese and Korean toddlers how mirrorless things are done. This is pro thinking, first time in digital mirrorless history; everything else we had so far was kindergarten play.
It is the lasting benchmark still. And mindshare one cannot buy with money; it requires respect for the commitment, which many other companies lack.
Leica represents 99% of mind share in photographer's minds. Just think of ease of use and most magnificent lenses. That is what counts.
Marty4650: OK, face it.
This is a mouth watering camera, and we all want one. I just can't aford one. But if I could....
We are accustomed to too much ugliness we don't see good things when they arrive. SL is not ugly. Leica released form to an essence, while Sony, albeit exploring similar approach, did not settle for anything so freeing or so polished up.
Thank God for Leica; they are delivering things as they should be done — right and without cutting corners. It was about time that someone teaches Japanese and Korean toddlers how mirrorless things are done. This is pro thinking, first time in digital mirrorless history; everything else we had so far was kindergarten play.
rhurani: Sony san! for me please the same camera without EVF, without tilting of the LCD, without the filter, but with a built-in flash, a 24MP-only FF for 700$. Deal?
Keep on dreaming about f2 lens. Lens elements would be too wide and too heavy for a retractable design. An f2 lens would be then affixed on the front of the camera, like on Leica X.
aris14: Compare it with Leica Q asap, pls...I can't wait for the comparison and comments...
Btw... Sony is not FauxWagen et such...
According to Leica Q manual, At 28mm, the resolution is 6000x4000px (24MP)At 35mm crop, 4800x3200px (15 MP) At 50mm crop, 3360x2240px (8MP).
8MP is enough for a cover of Vogue and for normals, more than enough for all use. For tech-geeks, though, nothing is enough. :-)
You must try them yourself. Yesterday, I have spent some time with Leica Q. It is in high demand, and for a good reason. The camera is simply the best fixed lens camera I have seen in my life. The size in hands is perfect, ergonomics is spot on, and the machine is very, very fast. Very intuitive. It is not heavy nor bulky — made to handle well, and also manage heat well, which is Achilles' heel of many mirrorless cameras. It can be held with one hand only. The optics is a marvel. Nothing but superlatives. 50mm crop is handy. It can be discerning photographer's one and only camera indeed.
No, they won't do it. Instead, buy new Ricoh GR II for $600 and save $100 for extra battery and SD card. That one is a real deal.