zakaria: 36 mp with 8.3 frame/second is hard .file is huge!
Yes, but that shutter alone in the 1DX costs like a new 5DIII. There are limits, and there is reason which always operates within limits. And reason says that what users want (8fps, superresolution) is fairly unreasonable expectation. As for Panasonic, that is possible without mirror. But then, why bother with photo camera in such a case? Buy a video camera and shoot in 30 fps, 60 fps, 120 fps.
Vladik: Gosh, Pentax used to make good looking cameras. What happened to them. These things are so ugly!
Actually this one is pretty sexy. It has all the Pentax DNA in it. So it is a legitimate child.
Moving FF sized mirror at 8fps is no small feat. How many megapickles we want .. 36? The camera then becomes ABOVE D4 / D1X class (both have tiny resolution compared to 36 MP), and we want that for $2500 or $3000? No way in this world.
fmian: Full frame camera with a major feature being crop mode for crop lenses.What's the big deal about a crop mode? I can easily create a lightroom preset to do the same thing.Am I missing the importance of this??Enlighten me.
Thus announcement was necessary because the marketing manager, this gentleman from the interview, realised that faithful users are best treated when informed, not relying on wild speculation. Better safe than sorry.
RichRMA: "Targeting loyal customers" is pretty much all the DSLR sellers have left. Nikon does it by continually raising lens prices with each upgrade, knowing certain buyers will get rid of perfectly good lenses "to keep up with the Joneses." But not enough new people are buying bodies so they need to go after "the converted."
Exactly Badi. That is why one, who thinks afresh, needs this FF, two lenses, and start creating.
zakaria: Things are changed quickly.from now to the time releasei ncluding /technolgy+prices+moods+market..etc/ so if we are talking about a camera will be released after 7 monthes i thik we may look at the new technolgy not what are available at this moment. it may be need some dreams. my dream camera is k mount with k3 body and a new 50 mp sensor a new metering system..a big bright VF +5 frames /second is good enough may be four frames not too bad .2000 $ to 2300 is good price for me.
Indeed? 8.3 fps in the latest 36 MP sensor most likely (to enable decent crop), all for £2300? Tell me who in this wold has that even for £7000? Ask Canon to deliver that, and they will show you the way out. :)
People who truly enjoy photography do not buy cameras or lenses. They buy experience. As long as Pentax provide unique experience, and they do, they will have enough customers to bother about.For others, who cares; they can't differentiate between pedestrian and sublime experience, and are lost anyway.
neo_nights: Compared to some other interviews, this one was a bit... meh!
Love your enemy, but tell him nothing.
samhain: If Ricoh would re-hire Jun Hirakawa to design new Pentax FF lenses... I could honestly see Pentax being a serious competitor to Canon/Nikon.
Imo- Dslr bodies come & go. But the lenses- that's what makes all the difference. Innovation will move a brand up the food chain. Fast, unique, well made glass will keep em there.
There are many talented people. Also, Jun Hirakawa did not design the most legendary of all lenses, the 31 Ltd — two other gentlemen did, completely reworked his initial design.
However, man-designed lens designs from the film era and the early computer era, is now a forgotten art. FA Limiteds truly shine on film, but for today's sensors and folks, it is sharpness, sharpness and other boring features that matter.
Crop function is announced to spare people from FUD, and idle speculation in forums that people will suddenly "need to buy all new lenses." Pentax is the only company in the world that is fully dedicated to crop and has the most extensive lens lineup there. So this announcement is reassure existing customers, that they will lose nothing. Considering that, it may be a hidden hint too, that the FF camera will have enough pixels to make crop lenses worthwhile in use with an FF. Basically, this says, "the FF will have 36 MP, yes, which gives you at least 16MP in crop mode".
webrunner5: I am afraid with the Mirrorless statement and still not having the new camera out yet they are just WAY late to the dance. I have no clue how they are going to make a go of it in the long run. Having 2 FF lenses is not very encouraging either.
Before announcing judgements, inform yourself first. For example, go and ask in Pentax SLR Forum which lenses now fully cover the 135 format frame. And you will get surprising answers. Those two new lenses are high performance lenses from the view of telephoto designs, AF performance, new motor tech, so forth.
jaxson: An interesting take away for me was that Pentax considers the MF camera as the professional line, and FF as just a progression from APS-C. They only seem to be getting in FF as the low end users don't have an intermediary option before the MF 645Z. Seems fair.
I'd love to see Pentax back on top of something, but of late the competition has been fierce. Sony and Olympus now do sensor shift stabilisation better than Pentax. Pentax has always done solid bodies, well weather sealed well. They still have a place for sure.
I'll say it again though: Give us back (yes you had it right already on the K-5 series) sensor based stabilisation during video mode and you'll have quite the package. Also release this back into previous models too, which are presently only offered the crippled 'Movie SR' rubbish...
In film days, Pentax considered 135 format to be everyday man's camera. One that cannot deliver optimum image quality. That is why they never invested in a professional 135 format line seriously.
Therefore Pentax invested in 645 and 67 systems, to deliver systems that can deliver much higher level of image quality. In advertising of the 67 system, they have named it "the ideal system" for photographers. They meant, professional photographers who care about best in image quality. It came out with 12 lenses ready.
Zvonimir Tosic: First of all, if I were a representative of company that always gets worst of attention from DPR, starting from lack of reviews onto everything else, I would not give them any bit of information about anything. Rule goes, know your enemy first.
Also, I would love DPR spare us mirrorless tirade when conversing with a representative of the company that has practically invented an SLR!
Instead, why DPR do not bother mirrorless-solution-only companies, bugging them with questions like: when will they try out SLR designs and change their mounts to ones with larger distance, in order to simplify their lens designs, introduce native distortion-free images and not images no one can swallow without software manipulation, insist on 100% tele-centricity, considerably preserve battery life with introduction of a bright OVF?
Well, the proof is in the pudding — the success of the 645Z. One cannot get that level of image quality with "quirks". It is time proven design, with no nonsense approach to photography and laws of optics.
First of all, if I were a representative of company that always gets worst of attention from DPR, starting from lack of reviews onto everything else, I would not give them any bit of information about anything. Rule goes, know your enemy first.
Start up time for .. lenses? What is this? Do Sony lenses require cranking up of lenses before they are able to be used, haha? :)And that is new feature of digital photography, I suppose? Incredible.
Nice confectionery DSLR, that suits modern trends. Which means, Nikpn does its usual job of not adding too much into it to make it really stand out and turn heads. It is more important to them to release another update in 12 months. Idea for next year's update: swivel screen. In two years, USB 3. In 10 years, it may be a formidable crop camera.Quite Nikon. Quite predictable.
KL Matt: -3 EV AF was one area (that and buffer, frame rate) where the Pentax K3 clearly had the 7100 beat. This puts Nikon back on top of the heap with its low-light AF on all 51 points and IMO ahead of the K3, but I could care less about 8 frames per second personally so others may not see it that way. In any case, Nikon users probably have Pentax to thank for this bump in specifications. These are clearly two areas the 7100 lagged behind the Pentax K3.Another example of how competition is really good for the consumer and the market, and fanboyism is by definition foolish. If you're smart, you're cheering on the competition of your chosen brand: because the better the competition's cameras are today, the better your brand's cameras will have to be tomorrow.
Nah. It's not -3EV or fps or bric-a-brac that one camera "beats the other". It's the lenses.I personally would not touch Nikon's or Canon's crop lenses with a 10 ft long isolated pole. And that is why most people get Pentax, for the optics that does not exist and is not replicated anywhere else.
Zvonimir Tosic: Nice to know Fuji did not dare to compare Total_size-vs-Performance quotient of their cameras with Pentax K-3 armed with, say, 6 DA Limiteds.
But instead with 7DII which has .. ~8 years old sensor tech and no lenses that can compare with Fuji's or Pentax APS-C optimised primes.
Actually Mr Brendon1000, 35/1.4 could be considered ancient approach in lens designs. Because it uses a film paradigm of limited ISO availability for film, which is compensated with large aperture. Then Fuji designs those so called fast primes because (a) they know their future users come from Nikon of Canon camp and know nothing better, and (b) those dreaming of Leicas but can't pay the price, could find their home at Fuji. There is nothing magical in those lenses, only Fuji knows whom they appeal.
What is point in proving Fuji cameras have AF? Should we marvel at that → look, Fuji has an AF! Wow...Is that a bonus that comes with their cameras? I mean Olympus also has AF. Even Leica on their T series. Casio too.
All right, some will call me biased, but before you do that, please re-assure me with good answers. I am looking at the gentleman's picture above, and in his hands a camera with thinner profile, yes, but with a gigantic lens on it, no smaller that equivalent DSLR lens.
So what's the point he wants to make with this engineering "feat"? That laws of optics always apply and scaling down camera size is a myth? Or that DSLRs are still better ergonomically designed and made for big lenses .. but he won't admit that?
Or that overall imbalance of his design to comfortable handling .. is the new way to enjoy photography in the 21st century? Perhaps following the same route of thinking that the most simple and dumbest of cameras world has ever seen are also called "smart" (smartphone) in this 21st century?
Is there a problem with this 21st century or something?