Amateurbob: In the days of film Pentax was my camera of choice. I had a Pentax ME that I really liked. Pentax was known for high quality compact cameras and lenses. Compact is not Pentax’s forte today. They are leaving that to Sony. Pentax cameras are big and bulky. The older Pentax film lenses I now use on a Sony Nex camera. However, using a 35mm film lens on an APS camera must result in lower resolution than would be obtained on full frame. The lines per mm may be the same, but the number of mms is less. If I could afford it, I would be more interested in the upcoming Sony FF Nex for my older Pentax lenses than anything Pentax offers. If Pentax came out with an FF k-01 with view finder I would be very interested.
A question for those in the know: if moiré can be controlled by shaking the sensor, can it be equally controlled by post processing software simulating shaking the sensor? If so why add the extra complexity to the camera and why not use such software on any camera?
Are you talking about compact cameras, or about compact systems? There is nothing compact about Sony Nex camera and a zoom lens on it. On the other hand, in DSLR terms, Pentax is still very compact system, and has many compact lenses for DSLRs. But then again, chasing ultimate compactness often defies common sense, as it cripples usability and emotional confidence of a photographer holding a reliable tool in hands (which are not infant's hands in size).
Zvonimir Tosic: Ricoh to Pentax is now same as what Asahi Optical was to Pentax. Neither "invented" Pentax, but bought it. Remember the times when Asahi letters were *engraved* above the Pentax letters on every single pentaprism, on millions of cameras?At least Ricoh is more subtle and is signing off at the back of the camera. So read it as a signature: "We at Ricoh, now recognised as world leaders in sustainable technologies and brand stewardship, are proud to deliver to you this Pentax camera, made to excite you and exceed your expectations". Ricoh is recognised as one of most ethical companies in the world; please check your facts guys.
Check the encyclopaedia guys, I'm not going to waste my keyboard.
limlh: Nothing is mentioned about the rumored multi-pattern wb. If true, this must be the best feature of the k-3.
I'd rather DPR to change their mindset in assessment of "facts" to the scientific standard, like, avoiding using vague and incorrect statements "we had a feeling that this worked like this 4 years ago", like they did in the E-M1 "review". And stated utter nonsense that damages the brand. Now same goes for MAWB on Pentax K-3 — to them "it didn't work well on a Ricoh camera of 4 years ago". So what? How it works now, measurably, and under the *official firmware on a production camera* — not what you presume "from the back of your mind".
Madaboutpix: Wow, those specs and first impressions sure sound auspicious! Still shooting my trusty old K-7, I suspect that now it's about time to stop skipping upgrades and start some serious saving-up for a K-3 body. I may have to wait, perhaps for years to come, but finally I hope I will get one of these. It may not make me a better photographer, yet I'm definitely itching for this tool.
As for all the fretting about the Ricoh logo below the K-3's LCD, the recent announcements, both in the camera and the lens department, make me fairly hopeful about the future of the K-mount system. Pentax's new owners may be best known for their photocopiers, but they strike me as people who care about photography. And yes, as such, they might actually be kind of proud to display their company name on a Pentax-branded body ...
Yet another copier company, Canon, seem to be world's most selling traditional camera brand, and knows a lot about photography.
ET2: Here is demo of Flucard but it should work with any camera.
Looks like this system is camera agnostic.
Waxvaine, ET2 and Anastigmat are on the holy cruFFade. In their dictionary there is no letter A. Everything starts with F. :)
Ricoh to Pentax is now same as what Asahi Optical was to Pentax. Neither "invented" Pentax, but bought it. Remember the times when Asahi letters were *engraved* above the Pentax letters on every single pentaprism, on millions of cameras?At least Ricoh is more subtle and is signing off at the back of the camera. So read it as a signature: "We at Ricoh, now recognised as world leaders in sustainable technologies and brand stewardship, are proud to deliver to you this Pentax camera, made to excite you and exceed your expectations". Ricoh is recognised as one of most ethical companies in the world; please check your facts guys.
KariIceland: Marc newson is a terrible designer and is known for the worst camera design in human history, marc you should be FIRED, and apple designing a camera? God help us all.
So how come Apple has silently become the most influential camera manufacturer overnight?
This is why Apple sells more cameras than anyone else today, and is totally redefining our photography taking experience. Camera manufacturers have little to no clue how to design an interesting camera today, and are losing market rapidly. While nerds moan about oily spots in their FF cameras, new brilliantly designed iPhones and advanced cameras in them substitute more and more photography needs. So before we nerds wake up, the photography tools as we knew them will be a lone iceberg melting in a vast ocean.
I salute Johnny and Marc; world class design. Camera manufacturers: note a few good lessons. Pentax at least tried, and succeeded well with K-01.
Bjorn_L: Impressive specifications except for the battery capacity and the alluded to sub-par for class focus speed.
The problem I see is most of the features are designed to make for a more impressive specification sheet rather then a better DSLR.
I understand it is necessary to check certain boxes in your spec sheet to keep up with the Jones-es, but I have been more impressed with the blistering frames per second if the AF speed was equally fast. I am more concerned about getting 1 shot in perfect focus quickly then getting 8.3 shots in poor focus. If the AF module is not top-shelf, then such a fast burst rate is of not much use since tracking is not going to be faster then the AF unit.500 shots per battery is really poor for a DSLR. Worse then entry level cameras let the alone the high competitors to the k3.
That said, I am happy Pentax continues to offer their take on what a useful camera looks like. I wish everyone would offer low price weather sealed lenses (for example)
Plastek, I'm not claiming anything, but Panasonic has put in their brochure some data, and according to their tests, K5II camera has more precise and faster AF than Nikon D7000. Note the word precise.Re K-3, hold your breath as well, because all cameras given for previews were preproduction cameras running on v.0.x fimrware, with some AF options still unavailable. .
peterpainter: The important bits, though. Logos!The DPR sample has a 'Ricoh' logo under the LCD whereas the Ephotozine sample has a 'Pentax' logo there. Perhaps thay haven't made their minds up yet - could yet end up with 'Ricoh' on the front and 'Pentax' on the back;)
With Pentax name on the back, those were preproduction, test models. Made not to raise suspicion when testers shoot in public. Now officially, Ricoh's name goes there.
kimchiflower: Another great Pantax product that I'll never ever see or be able to buy within 1000 miles of where I live.
In fact, I don't actually believe Pentax exists and I've yet to be proven wrong.
@ fakuryu, yes, considering you live a stone's throw from the Pentax factory ...
// However, we've not been that struck by it on previous Ricoh models (it appeared back around the time of the GR Digital IV, I think). //Yes, but what about on a new camera, with all new metering, released 3-4 years after?
Ayoh: Is the in body AF motor quieter than the k-5 series?
In real life use. Often in quick reviews like this, many useful information won't be clearly noted. Like the Multi-pattern Auto White Balance, which is already a big hit.
ogl: 560 frames is with 50% flash, 720 frames without flash. Change data.
That something like my olde K-7. Not too bad for the same battery, and in real life, often 100 extra images can be squeezed out.
In 6 months from now, a K-3 review. Silver award. Cons: 1. "Uses some bizarre K-mount (?) lenses"2. "Doesn't have a Canon logo"3. "Too rugged compared to competition".4. "Too many video options". :)
Screw drive motor has been reworked. Makes less noise now.
MarkByland: Personally happy to see the Sony 24Mp sensor made it in to a Pentax body. I'm sure the camera is top notch all around considering the performance of the K-5 family. Rain? No problem. Low light? No problem. High ISO without falling apart at 1600? No Problem. The in-camera control and effects set it apart from any other. It's good to see this continuation in the line.
No one is actually certain which sensor is included in the K-3. Some say it's Toshiba's, some it's the brand new Sony's. Some insiders with reliable track record says it's the latter (latest Sony's). We'll see ...
800g with a battery. DLi90 is about 50g. So without it, it's some .. 750g ..?
K5 was light-er, yes. But this camera is light-years ahead of K5. I wouldn't be surprised it hasn't been made slightly bigger and heavier to sport an FF sensor in some future model, that will share same tech, including same battery grip too.
Guys at CR Kennedy have already seen a K-5-bodied camera sporting an FF sensor, a year ago.
Regarding lack of tilting screen: I see that this may be seen as a drawback. But lets think again, like guys at Pentax: at least it seems they think twice about every gizmo others introduce without a second thought. If a camera can be controlled comfortably from any distance via smartphone, which almost everyone has, and have a live preview too — then what's the point making a rugged, weather-proof camera that has a weakest part in its tilting screen while the screen substitute/extension is in your pocket? I don't say it's best solution, but is tilting screen any better?
Ah, all right, let's see how many comments will be around "Why K-3? It isn't enough to save Pentax anyway.", "Does Pentax have any lenses?", "Too late!", "FF is the only way to go …".Etc.