If they EVER add localised HSL I'll be in heaven!
RedFox88: So, it has to be used with a f/1.4 or faster lens. Gotcha. Where's a 24-70 f/1.4 zoom or a 70-200 f/1.4 zoom ?
Thanks for the feedback Rishi!
Azimuth46: well... let's resemble a bit all the constraints of this new camera:
1) it works in low light well BUT ONLY WITH fast (expensive) lenses (which, btw, are NOT so many at the moment!)2) it acquires and keep focus well with moving subjects BUT ONLY IF there is a face or some eyes available, otherwise it tends to hunt. 3) it can work ONLY in 12bit (11bit +7bit offset) lossy raw mode AND UNDER SOME circumstances, this leads to a reduced dynamic range and to a posterisation of the image too. (!!!)4) The silent mode can be used BUT YOU LOSE 1 EV of DR ,and ONLY IF there are some conditions - like artificial lights with fast shutter speeds - it can lead to artefacts in the image. (beside the rolling effect which is typical of this mode)5) There are heavy limitations in customising buttons functions and in saving settings.6) A really PRO program to support them is NOT existent.
Sony, what else?
this is great bit of hi/tech demo, but not a real world cam. This sounds as a 3K$ toy!
Thanks for replying. This is useful info and specific to my needs. Greatly appreciated!
With respect to your weddings, do you always use primes or also the 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8?
If yes to the latter have you compared the Sony AF system while using those lenses in those conditions?
I'm a little confused here. Primes aside, many pros shooting weddings and events shoot the 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8. Surely for this particular field of photography you would have to compare with these 2 lenses as well?
If I understand you correctly, (and I may not be) the Sony would be good to -1EV with a 2.8 zoom versus -3EV for the D750. Is this correct?
DPJoe2: Thanks for taking the time to do the report. I'm finding Eye auto-focus to be stunningly fast, even in dimly lit rooms.
Rishi, thanks for getting back to me. This really does sound impressive!
Did you do the test with Sony lenses or third party?
Rishi, Have you tried the eye AF in a wedding type scenario?..... Low light function room as opposed to low light outdoors?
If this eye AF works fast and accurate in THAT environment then it really is a game changer for those of us who rely on exceptional AF speed and accuracy in abysmal light.
haiiyaa: I have two hobbies, one is photography and the other one is computer gaming. The average age here is probably around 50 while the average age in the games I play is 13-14. Despite the constant trash talking and death threats I receive when playing games, I still think the dpreview community is worse and more immature. is it because they spend thousand of dollars on their camera equipment, yet will never be able to get a shot like this?
+1 and well said!
Looking at the galleries of some "critics" makes me laugh and makes them look very foolish indeed.
steveperry: Very cool image! Lots of great drama going on.
To the photographer - ignore the negative comments. It's interesting how many people who level harsh criticism never post their own photos, or if they do, they are completely lackluster. It's almost like they want you to do worse so their stuff doesn't look quite so bad by comparison.
LOVE this shot and congrats to the owner!
Well done for ignoring the negative comments from the "experts" as well ;)
hip2: just the fact that the magnified review is done around the focus points is already a huge step.i dont understand why it is not standard yet, it's the obvious choice.
Rishi ... "how often is our subject underneath the selected AF point? Hopefully always"
Well not really in a lot of cases. This is the big issue with shooting at 1.4 on my Nikon bodies. Even using the outer AF points I often still have to do some recomposing.
This is the BIG advantage with the Sony and all those AF points. It would be great to be able to ALWAYS have the outer AF point directly where we need it without having to recompose slightly and without having to worry about the outer AF points not being as accurate as the centre.
It's a real shame you couldn't give this camera a test in a low light function environment. Wedding, corporate function, etc. I am sure many here would love to see the Sony AF in such an environment.
AllanW: Serious question .... Is there any technical reason that the VF is .78 x and not 1 x ?
Thanks for the feedback T3
Serious question .... Is there any technical reason that the VF is .78 x and not 1 x ?
matthew saville: These full-frame Sonys just keep getting heavier and heavier.
The A7R was 14 oz. The A7 mkII was 21 oz. The A7R mkII is 22 oz.
Considering that a D750 is 26 oz and that a Df is 25 oz, and considering the rather pathetic lifespan of the NP-FW50 battery that would require me to carry 2-3x more batteries anyways, I'm throwing in the towel. This is a joke.
1.5x and 2x mirrorless are the only systems that are truly living up to the weight and space savings mantra that mirrorless had hyped up. Sony's FE system continues to deliver hefty lenses that weigh as much as or more than their DSLR competition. Their bodies get heavier and heavier, as they try and step up the build quality to an acceptable standard.
I'll grant that there are still innumerable new bells and whistles that many people are going to greatly appreciate about mirrorless. 4K video, in-body stabilization, and of course, focus peaking. If those were things I cared about, maybe I'd get on board.
Each to their own of course, but for me size and weight is not a reason I would switch.
As I have previously said, I would be very happy with a D750 style and size body in mirrorless format. I find this size and weight balances very well with bigger lenses.
Of course, AF performance, battery life and VF lag would need to be DSLR level before I would swap over. But when that day comes, I will happily swap systems.
KW Phua: For planned shoot DSLR with complete system still my choice. iPhone will take over when DSLR left at home. Until one day EVF catch up with the AF speed, DSLR still will be available. Hope that Dual Pixel type of technology can evol one day and with 8K video, I will shoot video and get the best frame for my still picture. Offcouse with high speed recording and high capacity storage. Save money now, invest wisely. Which maker have higher chance? Keep your eyes open. Don't waste money on toys.
I have played with a few and haven't found a mirrorless yet that can match my D750 for AF.
I like the mirrorless concept simply for the WYSIWYG but I will hold out until the AF speed, battery life and viewfinder blackout has evolved to a higher standard.
IMO, current mirrorless are great for Fashion, Portrait, Landscaped etc. but no good for weddings, functions...anything fast moving in low light.
The other thing is, I really don't like the smaller bodies with the large lenses. Small bodies only makes sense to me if I can also get a 70-200 f2.8 in a small form factor. Otherwise the balance is just off.
When the time comes, I would be happy with a D750 size body as a mirrorless. Feels perfect in my hand when shooting for hours on end.
Well I have the Odin and it has worked perfectly on all of my past Nikon models. On the D750 I have to toggle the Odin in the hot shoe until it meets the contacts.
If my unit works on all other models and not the D750 then logic would dictate that the D750 hot shoe is not the same as past models.
codeNsnap: Dear Nikon,
Have a very small feature request for the D750 – a setting to prevent the LCD display from turning on when the ISO button is pressed. The ISO value is always visible in the top LED screen and the viewfinder display. Always turning on the LCD display when ISO button is pressed is unnecessary and distracting for some of us users; so it would be nice to have an option to turn this behavior off. Given the positive direction in which Nikon's customer service response is recently going, I really hope this simple option will be a part of this/next firmware upgrade.
Easy ISO doesn't work in manual mode. Auto ISO has its place but I much prefer to manually set my ISO, aperture and shutter speed for certain conditions.
The D750 is perfect for this! Once the ISO has been set to the movie record button I have all 3 controls at my right hand.
But the rear display coming on is a pain and an easy fix via firmware
+1 Total pain when you are shooting events and changing ISO.
Papi61: Not going to dump my Nikon gear any soon, but I see the NX1 as a truly great offering for indie filmmakers who want to jump on the 4k bandwagon. I'm lucky I'm going to test one soon. I know some people in the indie film industry who already got the NX1 and are raving about it. If I'm satisfied with my tests and if I don't see a worthy competitor appearing soon, I will likely buy one.
I currently shoot Nikon but have no bias either way.
I'm curious about your statement: "I am now capturing images not possible before."
Can you give examples of what type of images that are now possible that weren't possible on your old system?
Laurence Dutton: I've been using this camera for commercial videos & stills since the first week it was announced, without going into detail I'll summarise:The S series lenses are unbelievably sharp; the hardware is SO much better than the firmware; 4k video is as good as the HD is bad; HDMI monitoring greys out many useful functions..eg focus assist, high frame rates; this doesn't matter as focus assist & HD are awful anyway....But with a perfect lens line up (f2,8 zooms of useful length. sony only has f4); rapidly improving firmware & astoundingly sharp 4K video I think I did the right thing in buying into the whole system.
I just wanted to compliment you on your work. I just checked out your website and you have some very impressive images. Congrats!