vscd: Organic sensors. Hmm. Organic Displays have a limited lifespan. Zeiss even gives you a few years on their Batis-Displays. Canon doesn't know how long the blue diffractive element on the 35mm L II will last, but says "long enough". I guess the technology will work but we shouldn't expect to have it for a lifetime.
But nowadays 2 years seem to be enough for a lifestyleproduct like a camera :)
"Organic Displays have a limited lifespan."
They definitely outlast the Li-Ion/Poly batteries.
"Zeiss even gives you a few years on their Batis-Displays."
The OLED display image *quality* starts noticeably decreasing after two-three years *in continuous use*. The displays first show decreased saturation, but the contrast remains OK for much longer time. (And that info is for the original AMOLED display - not the more contemporary SuperAMOLED or AMOLED Advanced and other OLED display types.)
It probably was a lame decision to included such display on a lens, but a sensor (as part of a digital cameras) have much shorter life span.
P.S. BTW, the protection for the fragile organic layer is an active research field. IIRC the sensor uses the Fuji OPF precisely because they have a tehcnology to improve the durability of the organic layer.
utomo99: But when is the real products will be available at the market ?
"But when is the real products will be available at the market?"
The new sensors are expected to arrive on the market by 2020.
Marchellinoimam: It means this camera can record 6k images in the future?
Unlikely. That would be too good to be true, anyway. Downsampling is easy, but... The video output likely lacks the bandwidth for such high resolution. The H/W video codecs are also capricious and the 6K resolution is likely unsupported at all.
surlezi: Funny how people resent the A6300 not to have all the features you find in a pro camera generally over 3k$ !
No touchscreen blahblah, no GPS blahblahblah, 8 fps with no blackout but not that good when it's slightly-dark blahblahblah, no dedicated dial for all functions blahblah, no IBIS blahblah, not a medium format blah, not even full frame blahblah, I don't need 4K blah, I don't need 24Mp blahblahblah.
There it is all summed up, thank you.
"It's like some people here think all cameras should be made specifically for them [...]"
Probably not. But there is the "level of expectations".
...Although the recently launched PEN-F should have definitely dampen those levels and expectations. But for some people, there is no helping.
aris14: C'mon guys, we all know that Canon's 5D Mark VI WCM (with coffee maker) was first... (In otherwords long love the cognitive dissonance)...
The godly cameras typically sit in the super-top spot: in the place 0 (zero). Because there is no point in comparing them to the mere mortal cameras. But I personally prefer Canon 5D Mark VIII for the included ice maker and the built-in whisky flask. Taking pictures never was that pleasurable.
Banhmi: 10 years from now this whole 'retro' camera fad will be long gone and we will look back at DPR articles like this one, waxing poetically about silver knobs, and think reviewers must have had some similar bits logged in their prefrontal cortex.
But it's kind a suck that there is no small WR combo on m43. Especially since now the weather is so unpredictable.
The smallest WR is the E-M5 + 12-50 but the 12-50 is quite long and unhandy lens. Even compared to the Nikon AW1 kit.
"I'm not an Olympus owner but i don't think any of their primes are WR so one without the other...."
There are no small WR primes because there are no small WR bodies.
There are no small WR bodies because there are no small WR primes.
The depth of the logic is astounding. *rolling eyes*
"But, if you're going to have a piece of cake, why not get the piece that has the most icing?"
But what if after picking the piece of cake with the most icing, you find that there is very little cake inside? it's mostly the icing? (That's kind of my problem with the PEN-F: no grip, no WR, no PDAF/DFD. Superior IBIS alone doesn't cut it anymore for me.)
10 years from now, a DSLR design might end up being a retro.
The "retro" thing is a normal human response: reminiscing about the past, as seen through rose-colored glasses.
Just think of it: some people now think that it was easier to shoot with the film cameras in the past (because they were simpler) compared to the digital cameras (because the are too complicated).
I'd take WR and PDAF/DFD over retro any time.
IMO they have created a cute camera - and again wasted another opportunity to make a decent high-end PEN.
I'm not disappointed in the PEN-F. I'm disappointed in the whole Olympus PEN line.
Chris Noble: We can all agree that most photographers care about how their cameras look. But we can disagree reasonably on what is an attractive camera. Some of us see the Pen-F as a unimaginative attempt at a "retro" look, including illogically-placed controls, fake surfaces and handling compromises.
A comparative article with more than one point of view on the aesthetics of various cameras would be interesting. We already know from the flood of DPR adulation that the writer representing alternative aesthetics will have to be found outside the DPR office.
"We can all agree that most photographers care about how their cameras look."
aramgrg: And they will name it Retina Camera.
But it will be used mainly as a cRetina Camera.
Frank_BR: I found the sample #4 with only half cat as much intriguing. Can we conclude that for the full-length photo of a cat one needs a full-frame camera? Or perhaps a photo stitching with the PEN-F?
FF is yesterday. I heard that with medium format cameras, in cat photographs one can even spot the afterimages of the nine souls of the felines. That "medium" thing is really something.
ThePhilips: So that's the Olympus' answer to the Panasonic GX7? Pretty formidable. But unfortunately for Olympus, Panasonic has already released the GX8.
It is really sad, IMO. I hoped that after success of the OMDs, Olympus would also revamp the PENs by pulling ideas from OMDs, and make the PENs more versatile. Well, at least the top-of-the-line model. But alas. My return to the Olympus fold is delayed again.
So that's the Olympus' answer to the Panasonic GX7? Pretty formidable. But unfortunately for Olympus, Panasonic has already released the GX8.
sunjester: 1200 bucks seems like a lot for a pen.
But the pen is mightier than the sword!
LukeDuciel: who the h* approved to waste the front dial to art mode ??? ugly and not a bit useful
"who the h* approved to waste the front dial to art mode???"
The original PEN had the dial.
It is a throwback to the retro design.
With any luck, in the abyss of Oly menu customization options, there would be something for the dial too.
alolywu: Really like the Classic Film Monochrome samples.
A lot of people shoot JPEG and if the camera has the ability to save RAW + art filter JPEG then that should satisfy the RAW shooters.
"if the camera has the ability to save RAW + art filter JPEG"
That's how it always worked: JPEG is cooked, the RAW is raw. And you can have both of them at the same time.
ThePhilips: So it is confirmed: no PDAF/DFD, no WR. So much for a top-of-the-line PEN flagship.
I do not mind the particular level of the tech. The larger EVF would also have taken more space.
But I do mind the constant - unnecessary - crippling the Olympus does onto its PEN line.
So it is confirmed: no PDAF/DFD, no WR. So much for a top-of-the-line PEN flagship.