supersteel: just impressive. the price tag kinda kills the impressive feeling though. you want more performance pay a lot more. thats why I admire sigma ART gear. they give u much more for much less money. anodized aluminum exterior and internals. dock station for complete configuring. excellent price great warranty. the best
It certainly is very nice of Sigma to provide a docking station to enable users to fix their poorly calibrated lenses ;)
PKDanny: Is Canon 6D/7D and Sony A7 ENTRY-LEVEL???
Yes, "entry-level full-frame options".
desaint: Don't get it..the review is top but there is so much noise in the 400 iso and 800 iso pics..it's must be the PP in lichtroom,problem the radius slider to high..can you downloads the raw somewhere?
I don't see any more noise than the competition in the raw samples at those ISOs. In fact, the Canon 5DSR seems to be the worst.
Joe Ogiba: I bet this review will set the record for comments :)
Imagine those comments don't exist. It will still probably break the record.
There seems to be a fair amount of concern as to whether Sony will offer lossless compressed files with these updates - I'm sure not many people want unnecessarily large raw files.
The terms lossless/uncompressed and lossy/compressed seem to have become almost interchangeable throughout this whole saga, to the extent that I suspect Sony's press team either doesn't understand the difference or hasn't communicated it as well as they could have.
Hopefully we can assume Sony's engineers will deal with it properly and to the satisfaction of everybody. Well, almost everybody.
The Lotus Eater: HOT OFF THE PRESS
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RedFox88: $3000 for just 12MP? Welcome to 2005, sony!
Well indeed, what are Sony thinking!
$3200 for the 42mp A7R II, so the A7S II is really only worth $915.
It's robbery, I tell you, robbery!
munro harrap: The examples [posted here are typical of the reasons we do not invest in the A7RII, now that, apparently, the lag problems of the A7R have been resolved.
I figured on buying into the system as soon as the dreadful shutter lag was eliminated, but as they cannot be bothered to let the user decide whether to compress a file or not, they have , obviously zero respect for the needs of those who have to use their equipment, and the excellent explanations here with the samples do tend to further that impression
It makes no sense to cripple the capabilities of expensive gear, and I certainly could not live with, or market poor results like those shown.
lapomattiabarambaniviendalmare: Given the AF A7 RII eye tracking capability, it's really a shame that Sony doesn't have 1.4 or 1.2 E mount portrait lenses in its lineup...It would be a perfect marriage!
Francis, the FE 16-35/4, 35/2.8, 35/1.4, 55/1.8 and 90/2.8 macro all beg to differ.
lightmatters: It has been being shipped for a while but still no studio shot? :-|
No doubt dpreview staff are too busy picking their jaws up off the floor to publish the results.
ThatCamFan: What I learned from this: Sony makes the best sensors, but they need someone to teach them how to make a lens because apparently they cant design a good lens. The opposite of Canon, great lenses, bad sensors. Do I smell a future merger? ;)
You weren't reading very carefully, were you?
SwissRapha: Now I just hope they'll make a LA-EA adapter with built-in screw-drive motor and without SLT. All my A-mount lenses are screw-drive...
Simao, I think you can flip the mirror on the LA-EA adapters (certainly on the LA-EA2), but I don't think you can actually attach a lens while the mirror is flipped, as it protrudes outside the mount.
It wouldn't help you anyway, as the camera would activate the LA-EA's AF sensor (which of course would no longer work due to the missing mirror!) in place of its on-sensor AF.
BartA: I was quite impressed with A7II until closer examination and reading reviews all over the net. For lightweight 24MP and better rated IQ why not a Nikon D5500? It's actualy lighter, focuses better and beats Sony A7II in several areas. See DxO Mark's sensor ratings. Not to mention other than a few good looking primes I see only one zoom anyone who matters rates well (16-35 f/4) As a travel shooter zooms are my sweet spot.JMTCW
"Low light ISO: as I said, normalize for sensor area- an FX camera at the same F stop and ISO will need 1.2 stops longer shutter speed to maintain exposure."
What? No it won't. At the same f-stop, ISO and shutter speed the exposure will be identical.
nerd2: So they put a totally unnecessary digital scale on the lens, which can be shown in camera LCD or EVF, and neglected the autofocus system?
What a stupid move. Oh and $1200 for MF 85mm 1.8? Seriously?
Unnecessary how? Current A7 cameras display only the focus distance, not DOF.
How have Zeiss neglected the AF system?
ProfHankD: These look clearly designed for Sony FE bodies, and even the OLED display makes sense for that (the info was digitally available, so I bet this doesn't cost any more than the usual focus/DoF scales). A big step for Zeiss... a giant endorsement for Sony.
I bet you're fun at parties, whyamihere.
msstudio: What i want to know, why introduce a 35mm manual, along with a 50 in 2014, and then have a new line in 2015 starting with 25 and 85 incorporating AF. Also, I wish it would be all the same barrel design, front filter diameter and AF. My dream lens for the A7 series is a Zeiss 35 AF, 1.4 like the Leica Germany built legend, the perfect focal length for a small travel and snapshot reportage camera. And while were at it, where's there Otus 35mm se we can rest this case as well.
Apparently both Batis (AF) and Loxia (MF) lines will co-exist. A wide angle Loxia is coming out later this year.
The fact that the Batis line has AF and OSS (85mm), naturally means they will tend to be bigger overall, so the same filter diameter probably isn't possible.
Dirk Nuary: Always pricey, why?
halfwaythere, the proof is that Zeiss, not Sony, announced them. Not to mention they clearly aren't Sony branded.
R_U_Q_R_U: Anyone see the upgrade in the Creative Cloud app? Mine still shows up to date with LR5.
Installation Failed is pretty standard with CC. I don't think an update has ever worked first time for me.
jkokich: Forgive what may sound like a stupid question (there are those), but why is there shutter sound, at all? (Serious question, even if stupid).
Because there is a shutter.