lol101: As a NX user from the beginning (NX10), I am sorry to see them go but I must also admit that buying Samsung gear has always been a PITA since their distribution channels were restricted.
The good thing about it is that their most expensive gear (NX1 and S lenses) never made it to my neighborhood, successfully preventing me from sinking too much money in this dead end.
Personnel note to HowaboutRaw: did you get in touch with your Samsung source to get some explanations about his failed predictions?
So you didn't repeatedly advice to wait for some announcement concerning NX at CES before drawing conclusions on NX future?
OK... must have you confused with the one who wrote the comments bellow...
By HowaboutRAW (2 months ago)
I'll just wait until CES before drawing conclusions.
Bummer. Even though I'm sure it will continue to sell in the USA, I certainly won't buy into a system as sketchy as Samsung is being. What a great camera to not do well.
And when Samsung releases new cameras at CES in January?
XxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxBy wishiwereaskibum (2 months ago)
How can we validate or kill this rumor? The NX1 seems like an awesome camera, but who wants to buy into a system that's dying?
We can wait for CES in early January.
HowaboutRAW: no problem.
From my perspective (living in the EU), Samsung NX is finished.
I understand that since you live in the US, Samsung NX is still alive.
Still, from a general consumer perspective, withdrawing from major markets, not displaying even your existing range at a major electronic show and announcing absolutely nothing doesn't really spell that Samsung NX line is still alive and well.
Only a few years (month?) ago, Samsung was claiming that their ambition was to be a leader in the mirror less camera segment... they have toned that done quite a bit it seems. So much that they don't even mention the NX line now...
For someone who wrote repeatedly that everyone should wait for CES and some "big news" before writing NX off you don't really seem to follow your own advice.
Samsung has effectively disapeared from Europe and they did officially announce it so AFAIC, they are gone.
Plus no mention of their nx line at CES pretty much spells it for the rest of the world but it's only my interpretation and I might be wrong. I never understood Samsung marketing anyway...
What do you mean by "a little more than a prediction"? Nothing materialized so I would rather say it was quite a bit less than a prediction...
merkaba: I feel the NX1 was released too late after the swarm of newcomers including myself bought into the sony system with their very attractive a6000. Had NX1 been released first for a lower price point, I bet it would be a strong player to this day
Which FF has comparable feature set at that price point?
Think 4K, AF, 15fps, weather sealed...
FF is nice (I have one) but it's not the only measure of a camera's worth.
naltar: inward facing camera to see what's inside your fridge? I thought it's what the handle attached to the door attached to the hinge attached to the fridge is for?
How about an outward facing camera that locks the fridge while displaying "You look fat, go get some exercise you lazy bum!"
Much more useful imho...
No it would not.
The price of the NX1 was right but for the NX1 to be successful, Samsung should have built some prior confidence by making their products widely available and giving some visibility on their future.
Instead they kept their distribution confidential and never showed real commitment, releasing road maps with products that never materialized (16-80 anyone?) then stopping all communication about future developments.
Most people don't sink 3 or 4k$ in a system with such a shaddy future and I guess Samsung just demonstrated that most people are right.
As a NX user from the beginning (NX10), I am sorry to see them go but I must also admit that buying Samsung gear has always been a PITA since their distribution channels were restricted.
zakk9: Their engineers might be committed, but their marketing people are clearly not. I've been to countless camera shops since the NX1 was launched, particularly in Thailand, but also in other countries, and I haven't seen a single one anywhere.
There you have it: the core reason of NX demise.
How is a product supposed to sell if it's not available in most places?
kenyee: If they had made this K mount and collaborated w/ Pentax, it would have sold a lot more :-(
K mount is no good for mirrorless and they already failed a partnership with Pentax with the GX line.
NX mount was the way to go but they certainly never put any effort getting their products into customers hands. Major marketing and distribution fail imo. Lots of big words, some very good engineering all lost for no good reasons.
Time for an update of the update of the update: latest rumors say that Nikon bought Samsung tech for a future line of mirror less cams...
Stephan Def: Samsung should come out and say what their strategy is going forward because, I don't get this. Samsung has spent millions developing a lot of basic digital camera technology. It would be very bad business to just throw it all away.
This is not a question of marketing here.... Let's say that Samsung announce a new FF or a new NX camera that looks brilliant, how do you propose I buy it?
Sight unseen from an online dealer located on the other side of the world?
Now if they announce that they formed a partnership with Canon to sell them sensor tech and other goodies that will be available through Canon's excellent distribution channel, that's another story.... But I'm still stuck with no upgrade path on NX...
Waiting for CES and then what?
Imagine they announce yet another camera or even camera line that will be marketed confidentially if at all. what would be so big about it?
Seriously, after officially withdrawing from major markets in Europe Samsung cannot really come to CES and tell everyone that they are launching new products and have great expectations for them... who would believe it?
They want to be among the top players or nothing in everything they do... they didn't succeed to do so in the (declining) camera business so they are simply getting out.
caver3d: Okay, so when is the fire sale for the NX1? I'll help them out with their sales, if they cut the price. So will you.
Nope. No point of buying any more gear from Samsung AFAIC.
My current gear will be used until it dies but I'm not sinking more cash in the NX line.
tjobbe2: the ófficial statement of Samsung Germany reads exactly like that for laptops
19. November 2015In Deutschland beobachten wir seit längerer Zeit einen allmählichen Rückgang der Nachfrage nach Digitalkameras, Camcordern und entsprechendem Zubehör. Wir müssen uns den Anforderungen des Marktes anpassen und haben uns daher entschlossen, Verkauf und Marketing dieser Produkte schrittweise auslaufen zu lassen. Hierbei handelt es sich um eine Entscheidung, die nur den deutschen Markt betrifft
So the rumors is correct as far as the European market is concerned where Sasmung went silent outside of Germany already some months ago
@HowaboutRAW Were we talking about washing machines and TVs? I'm in the wrong place then...
Of course I'm talking about Samsung cameras and especially the NX line in which I am invested since 2008.
What was your point?
Samsung has already been silent for years in most EU countries except Germany...
I had hope that the NX1/500 would change that but it is obviously going the other way.
I don't really care about hypothetical future products announcement since these products will be next to impossible to find where I live.
Time to follow Samsung's lead and exit their customer market...
lol101: Indeed... Deafening silence by Samsung...
I'm actually surprised, I thought they would just issue a blanket statement saying that these rumors were unfounded. They do not really have to say anything else, just denying these rumors would suffice.
I'm a long time Samsung user (nx10, nx1000, nx30 and some primes) and am really impressed by the fast evolution of their technology from average quality (nx10) to outstanding (nx1) in very little time.
I'd be sad to see them go. Still looking forward for some good news. Nx50 is due next year if they keep their usual schedule.
@ JorginhoDon't forget that Samsung had very little to no previous background in digital photography.
The same can't be said for Sony (Minolta) or Fuji.
Indeed... Deafening silence by Samsung...
tecnoworld: Really interesting is the bad result of nx1. This shows the total lack of interest in nx cameras.
It should be priced at one half, to attract interest. Probably not even then it would.
It also shows really well how big a troll you are...
Is there a single poster on DPR not aware of your detestation of NX cameras?
Switch to some other brand, it's been more than 3 years now that you've been continuously repeating the same critics over and over again...
Five Powershot Compacts in one draw! And to think that some here thought that Canon was asleep at the wheel and then: BAM!! Five Powershots!!
Canon is on fire! What will they do next? Release an all new eos1250d with a 20mpix sensor... imagine that and the faces of Nikon's and Sony's CEOs... that would be huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Canon, Go!
I can't understand why the 6D didn't get first place...?
After all, this is the FF I am using... That's gotta be worth something no?
Oh well, I guess I must now switch to Nikon to regain my pride... Until next year...