Snikt228: Why doesn't this work on the A7 when it also has OSPDAF, just like the A7 II?
Yeah it's just the greedy Sony.
TheWhiteDog: I know this is nuts but it could be a very viable idea. We know the weakness of this system is lenses, we also know that Fuji(with their brand new, 400 million dollar lens making plant in the Phillipines) has lots of lens making capacity, and, much more important, a line of highly regarded lenses. So, Fuji should make their lenses available in the SONY mount also, can you imagine how many a6300 users would buy the 56mm f1.2 lens? I know what you are thinking, this would be suicide for Fuji's cameras, but I don't think so. Those interested in the XPro2 or the forthcoming XT-2 I doubt would be interested in the a6300 and vice versa. The controls are so different and they are aimed at totally different buyers that I doubt this would have any effect on sales of either, the handling, menus, control dials etc couldn't be more different. SONY would get a cut of the increased lens sales and Fuji would have a great revenue stream(beyond INSTAX) for their photo division.
I like your thinking but in this industry it's more like shooting its own foot. Relatively to other camera manufacturer, Fujifilm is still small. Making one of its strenghts available for other system reveals from the world of craziness.
Rebranding X lenses and selling them or only selling the design might be considered but again, following you suggestion as is, you will ultimatly kill your own system because there won't be a need for your bodies (especially when Fuji aims at number three in the aps c category) thus, needs for your name on the lenses afterall... Fuji won't stand against Zeiss so why bother pay them royalties...
This type of strategy works when, what you sell to your "competitor" doesn't carry your name on top for the mass to see... Same thing goes for sensor, evfs... even engines in the car industries... how many knows that Mercedes is using Renault engines in its A and C class cars ? That BMW uses french Peugeot engines in it's Minis ?...
straylightrun: It's a real shame Sony didn't include IBIS. Sony's real focus is on their FF system, not APS-C anymore.
IBIS is going to make the camera bigger. No point to including IBIS if you're gonna end up with an A7 size camera.
D200_4me: Small body, large lenses ;-)
LGO, you should see a doctor.
the decent exposure: In my eyes sony is going the wrong way. Profit is nice and I believe that these lenses will deliver a beautiful IQ, but pricewise and sizewise I can't follow Sony anymore. The 85 mm is $ 300 more expensive and 2 cm larger than the wonderful Nikon 85 mm 1.4. And of course heavier. Is that really what the average customer wants wants for his A7? I don't believe this. What is the reason of the smallest fullframe body connected to the largest and heavierst lenses?
Where is the 1.8 line, a 85 mm 1.8 for round about $500. I don't care if it would be plastic fantastic like the canikons
"...but pricewise and sizewise I can't follow Sony anymore. The 85 mm is $ 300 more expensive and 2 cm larger than the wonderful Nikon 85 mm 1.4. And of course heavier."
The Sony will offer better image quality plus it costed them a load of money in R&D... don't expect them to sell it for the same price as the Nikon developped years ago. Plus, if you've followed the presentation, Sony claims that there's a +40% in lens sell year to year and this alone i think is enough for them to follow the same strategy.
"Is that really what the average customer wants wants for his A7?"
The A7 line isn't for the average customer... you're talking high end FF here, so the lenses must follow... otherwise, even Zeiss should revise its Loxia and Batis strategy.
"I don't believe this. What is the reason of the smallest fullframe body connected to the largest and heavierst lenses?"
Flexibility. With a small 35mm 2.8 on an A7rii, you will have a light setup. You aren't tied to a chunky dslr body.
Another Olympus article ? Come on guys ;)
Dimit: Too bulky for crop rangefinder typeToo complicated re xtrans persistenceToo expensiveWon't sell as xpro1 didn't.
The IBIS helps keep the lenses smaller since they don't need to be stabilized and yes, the A7R and A7 will eat the XPRO2 for breakfast.
Top notch IQ for the price tag ? How much is the 23 1.4 ? or the 56 1.2 ? They are bloody expensive and only covers aps-c... they won't stand a chance against the 35mm, the 55mm or the 85mm (Loxias, Batis, and Sony's)
I wouldn't compare the XPro 2 with the A7rii or the A7ii because they are on a different league a won't need bright lenses due to ibis. I'm comparing what's comparable. The 28-70 is good and isn't bad than a 18-55 on a same size image. The FE system with lenses a 2.8 lineup will eat the Fuji lenses for breakfast. Lenses like the Batis and Loxia, the 55 and 35 don't have a match on the Fujinon lineup because they are on a league on their own.
In the same way the FF users doesn't need large aperture lenses also... which means they'll be fine with smaller aperture lenses, hence smaller size package.
At 35mm F2 :
With 24-70 F4 :
Didn't find the 18mm Fuji Lens to compare it with the FE 28 F2 that'll be a lot faster and smaller... and for many faster FE lenses (F2.8 / F2 / F1.4) there isn't a match in the Fuji lineup. The point is, at the same fov and dop equivalence, the lenses will have similar size.
"Sony-FE mirrorless lenses are as big as dSLR lenses (of the same specs) if not bigger and heavier"
Where did you get that ?
With any lens, the FE system is not big or heavy than any FF DSLR out there.
The A7 with the 35mm 2.8 or 55mm 1.8 will still be either equivalent or smaller/lighter than the XPRO 2 with equivalent lens (focal and dof) attached.
eazizisaid: Coming from the mouth of the Director Mister TT, the difference between the XT1 & XP1 :
The XT1 is for sport nature and wildlifeThe XP1 is for street photographers !
That's one bad answer.
Or simply he's confused, because after all what does the XT1 offers that the XP2 can't ? Since they are both flagships with similar size, price and functionnality, only the design will differ...
The odds are that the XT2 will share the same hardware of the XP2... so the sole difference between both will be the design and here we really can't talk about "Flagship", they must find another word. Between Nikon's D5 and D810 that's obvious but not here really.
Many uses the XT1 for street photography too as many others uses the XP1 for landscape, studio... so we cannot really separate them by anything other than the design (the EVF hump and probably the useless ovf).
Coming from the mouth of the Director Mister TT, the difference between the XT1 & XP1 :
At 0:48, HCB ?
noflashplease: I keep thinking about the Sony A7II when I look at this Fuji. The Sony is the same price but with IBIS and a Full Frame sensor. I do like the concept the viewfinder on the X-Pro and X100 lines, but not enough to invest in APS-C in an era when Full Frame is about to become mainstream. Fujifilm either needs to invest in Full Frame or reconsider the X-mount. As it is, it looks as if Instax film is a higher volume business than Fujifilm's entire digital photography line.
LOL at the story telling BS ! A camera is a tool. If you can't make a story with a point and shoot, you won't be able to do it with your story telling machine from oz...
The Zony 24-70 found his little brother
4k for only 3 minutes. Are they serious ?
"Nikon showing a video comparing D5 viewfinder image to mirrorless camera "
Fear maybe ?
That's one A7s killer both in iso and megapixel... price 7000$ ?
Marty4650: Superzooms are safe until the day comes when a smartphone can have a 40X or 50X optical zoom.
My guess is.... that day will never come.
They are threatened either way... how many customers interested in low budget point and shoot are interested in superzooms ? Not so many...