PhotoKhan: Here we go again, visiting DPR's "Canon Editorials Rule Book."
In a 2-paragraph piece Allison still found the space to slip-in the "meh!" comment.
The EF-M 28mm isn't the fifth lens for the "M" line, no...It is JUST the fifth lens for the EOS M system.
Come, come. They are as brave as the football player entering the field. They are paid good money for that and they are not chained to their desks or, what is probably more true in that agile world, to nice orange plush team work sofas. To suffer potential glimpse at our ruffian comments is entirely their decision and the more comments the merrier they are.
churchward: I have a Q. I find this review odd; I think it misses the point. It tries to compare a Rolex to a Seiko. Each has its purpose each; each does what it does very well indeed. The Q can sort of do what a Japanese techfest does but it isn't really designed for that. I doubt anyone actually uses the touchscreen feature and and yes a smartphone does better video, and probably other things. What the Q does do is reconnect the user with the fundamentals of photography, forcing you to think about what you want from the image and how you will best achieve it. You will spend time on this. It is worth it. The images I get from my Q are simply astonishing - and I use top Canon glass as well. I have rediscovered monochrome. The Q is a delight to hold. It needs a half case (Lim In Korea makes a superb one), and perhaps a silk strap. You need to process the DNG files in the (free) Lightroom. If you have the cash (there is little justification} indulge yourself. You won't regret it.
If you should loose weight and buy gym membership to force youreslf to do it, instead just going outside enjoying nice weather, then most probably the only weight you are going to loose is the difference in your wallet.
Robert Kempen: A full 919 comments so far and roughly 900 saw fit to comment about the price or ridicule Leica's camera which happens to be a best seller for Leica ever, no doubt without ever touching one
Voted best prosumer camera at the Singapore photographic exhibition (among quite a few) over the Sony RX1 RII for fairly obvious reasons:
Lens quality, sensor quality of output, ergonomics, photographic experience
Then, to add injury to insult, users do not know who Ming Thein is - probably would not recognize any pro photographer's name then either
It seems that DPreview is pushing just too hard to push Sony sales and the readers are pushing rather too hard to convince themselves that Leica has not produced another winner, but please phone B&H - sales don't lie!
Check resale price of that camera in a year or two when market is saturated and newer better cameras are available. I can bet you won't see a thousand or two back in your pocket. Especially that Q does not have unique market features that other Leicas provide. Will you make up for that loss with similar amount worth of great pictures - only your skills will determine. Would you end up with same or better photos using <1000 USD camera - same answer. Would you enjoy using much cheaper alternative over Leica? You may not. Majority probably would and because they can't afford Q.
It is interesting you take pride in accepting the challenge of simple life and then mention Leica. It is similar to 18 century rustic movement where affluent members of society loved simple village life so much they built enormously expensive rustic gardens and cottages near their comfortable mansions.
Looking impasionately on the subject and accepting the fact that Leica makes good cameras, it is hard not to acknowledge that they ask substantial markup only for brand name. That magical German engineering and design philosophy you speak of has kinks in its armour coming from lack of capital and expertise in certain technology and quality areas where Japanese and others have them beaten. It does not prevent Leica to design nice cameras but by the same token other companies also do the same. I can also make another bet - if all of us photo junkies suddenly got 5K USD inheritance only small minority would apend it on Q or other Leica product. The magic is a myth.
Kiril Karaatanasov: About your point of keeping A6000 alongside A6300
In Europe A6000 is more than 2 times cheaper than A6300. A6300 - 1250 Euro, A600 is 500 Euro. A6300 is close to A7m2 pricewise. So you see that A6000 makes a lot of sense for us Europeans. I know in the states the difference is mere 20-30% between the A6000 introduction price and A6300 introduction price. With some discounts to be had on A6300 it will be at comparable price to A6000. The dollar raising in value is the primary reason for this discrepancy between Europe and USA.
In US brand new A6000 is half the price of current official price of A6300. Sligthly used can be found frequently in 300+ range. I have A6000 that I bought over a year ago new for 450 using credit card points. I myself find it uninspiring camera and somehow can't connect with it. I wonder however if even those that like Nex will be willing to pay twice the price for A6300. The picture quality of A6000 is already decent. Is better EVF and more AF points enough to move the camera into next level of price bracket?
dialstatic: Nice video. I'm torn between thinking this is really cool, and somehow wrong. I know a photograph is never an 'objective truth' to begin with, but this is next-level manipulation. On the other hand, it's commercial stuff: he's not aiming for World Press Photo and his final product look awesome.
I guess I have the luxury of picking and choosing what I think photography should be (showing 'truth' vs. fabricating a story), as it's just a hobby for me.
I think majority if not all World Press Photo photographs are conscious manipulations. It is not just domain of commercial photography. This is associated with the preceding discussion about the question of photo telling or illustrating the story. If photo illustrates the story it illustrates the story created by photographer, manipulated/adjusted by his worldview in order to pass his own message.
Thorfinn: Sorry, for something like USD 80 I can talk to my local saddler or shoemaker craftsman, choose whatever leather I want (fx. same as the Jensen Interceptor Interior), feel it, smell it ... Sometimes marketing costs eats real craftsmenship.
There must have gone millions in R&D costs to come with an idea of a camera strap. Its unique design has never been tried in 100 years of rangefinder camera history. Common craftsman that specializes in leather goods will be unable to create similar or better product at lower cost.
ravikiran532: Ooops..too big to carry.. no articulated lcd..no ibis..no back illuminated sensor..only 20 Megapixels :)
Canon has stabilized lenses and has them on offer for the last 10 years. They are priced competitively to non-stabilized ones from other manufacturers.
Sure, that is not a solution to my MF Meyer-Optic Gorlitz Primoplan but we all know that camera is designed to shot 15 frames per second with old, funky, manual focus lenses.
Xentinus: What is wrong with the articulated LCD?..If you don't like it,you don't have to use it...It doesn't make a camera less professional!Sony's LCD on A99 is pretty darn useful.Why do you need live view in this camera segment?Why do you need video mode in this camera segment?Why hybrid autofocus and dual pixel?Since the LCD doesn't compromise on build quality and weather sealing,then why not?
@PhotoKhan - your argument morphed from "Canon not listening to its customer base" to "customers not knowing what is good for them". Those are two diametrally different positions and if both are indeed true, then Canon can hardly be criticized. The simpler explanation is that you are not a customer in that camera segment. That or you are just a minority that feel such feature is a must have in that segment.
T3: What I find most interesting is that Sony is so new to the game, and yet they've chosen not to take a me-too approach. I think that can be one of the advantages of having a fresh set of eyes; you end up solving problems in a new and innovative way., and you're not bound by traditional thinking.
Is it good or bad? Are you going to drool over fresh eyeys and innovative thinking when your shootout starts and you see fuzzy corners?
supeyugin1: A speech full of lies and inconsistencies. She blames US embargo and Russia pulling out, but nothing about communist regime. She should have visited Soviet union in 80-ies, which pulled out of Cuba in 1991 (and not in 1999),to see the same thing.She is blaming everything, but the real cause of the problem. She should visit North Korea as well to see similarities and make a conclusion.
@supeyugin1 - There is no sense in talking sense with someone who is not even able to create an argument. For me, as a person that lived through the dying years of communism in my native country, I am always amazed at people in the Western world who, while criticizing their own country politics, are oblivious to the atrocities and misery that communist doctrine brought to the world. The doctrine that loves people, so much that it loves them to death. I guess it is always fashionable to be a rebel. Pity, those rebels do not use their own heads. For better or, in my opinion, worse left wing proclaimed to be a defender of the poor, so any leftist doctrine, no matter how stupid and bloody, is more attractive to the compasionate fools. I should however not be so surprised, remembering thousands of western intellectuals supporting foreign regime which was murduring millions of their own and other countries' citizens.
In this case it is not a failure of Cuban government to manage economy and make their citizens happy. It is unjust embargo of an enemy country that is responsible. Noone asks why USA should feel oblidged to support its own enemy. Noone asks why Cuban government, if they do not want to change their attitude, did not secure support of enemies of USA. Everyone likes easy, black and white answers. They are so touching.
DFPanno: Let's not be unfair.
Early 5D3s had a light leak too.
If you want a camera that doesn't suffer such introductory problems buy a Nikon.
Having German guy sweating to assemble products will guarantee you nothing. I have seen and heard of enough of badly designed, produced and advertised products from various industries (all German auto, some furniture) to have little faith in Made in Germany myth. There are companies that create and sustain good workmanship culture (maybe Leica) and there are (majority) that operate on the good enough level in particular industryvsegment supported by prestige level promotional messages.
nafik: As ridiculous as Hummer, Leica, MB, BMW etc. this is just another toy for those of us who do not know what to do with their money (taking photography course or giving to charity could be a better option). It most likely will produce excellent images that will be looked at on smartphones for a one minute before another text shows up.
He has a point regardless if he himself follows more rational approach to photography or not. It is rather hitting summary of my own choices.
Incidentally why suddenly Leica and BMW brands are put apart from that of the Hummer. All create competent products in their market space. All those products are too expensive for utility they really provide to average consumer of those products, not considering aspects of fullfilment of one's ego. For all of them there are cheaper and better equivalents on the market.
If that is how 4K video looks like then I do not understand what is the fuss about.
I think shooting full length movie using cell phones was still much easier than coming up with so surreal the screenplay.
photogeek: I'd rather they fixed the goddamned sensor instead. It's way too sensitive, and it is engaged even when the screen is tilted away from the body. Super annoying.
How about this, Sony:1. Make eye sensor sensitivity configurable.2. Disable it when screen is popped out.
It's not that difficult. All you have to do is to get your engineers to use the cameras on a semi-frequent basis to understand how annoying the current behavior is.
Fully agree. I encountered that behavior this weekend using A6000. Maybe it is something that can be configured so I have to take a look into manual though my first reaction is that default configuration should be optimal to the user and it is not. If it can't be changed than you are right - Sony produces ideas without event testing them in practice.
Sean65: If ever we needed proof that things have changed from photoJOURNALIST to PHOTOjournalist, it's garbage like this.
Years ago it was ALL about the story. Now it's all about the photographers ego.
Good for WPP for stripping this dickhead of his prize. Journalist, my ass!
@b craw. Well said. I am not sure were that claim to objective journalism came from. It is enough to look into literature of 200 years ago to notice that press was as corrupted then as it is now.
Riquez: It actually seems like the mayor didn't like the dark side of his town shown & has tried to find some way to discredit. I think Troilo has pushed his creative licence a bit but there doesn't seem like any gross cheating. 1 photo was in the wrong town, that is why he was disqualified.
@Eric Calabros. Photography is misleading medium. It captures an image in front of the photographer but, even if that image is not manipulated before or after photograph is taken, it's claim to "reflect reality" is dubious. Reality has infinite number of shades whereas single photograph is just a snapshot. Photographer can try capturing that infinite number of tones but he can only approximate and that approximation is already based on his interpratation of the weights of infinite number of facts.
I am not disputing that hiding the fact of staging situations is dishonest as in reported example. I am just disputing your notion that proper photojurnalism is somehow able to avoid ideological manipulation, avoid manipulating viewers' perceptions and leave interpretation entire to them. Put leftist, centrist and rightist photojurnalists into same situation and they will produce "real" stories that would appeal to their respective audience.
Juck: That slow zoom had better be a hell of a performer for $1000.
I am definitly not an expert but wouldn't we catch more rain water through larger roof hole than through small roof hole? The area of the bucket should not matter if we have a funnel shaped piping in place that prevents spills and directs that rain to the bucket. Isn't lens through set of glass eleemnts creating such piping? If focal lengths of two lenses are equivalent are not their aperture sizes equivalent?
I think you are absolutely right. The folks at Olympus, Fuji, Sony, Panasonic and Samsung all made a deep sigh of relief then they discovered that the Canon M3 was just another half hearted attempt for Cannon to have a "presence" in the MILC market.
Of course, it is pretty hard for Canon NOT to have a presence when they command around a 50% market share in the overall market. There are bound to be some Canon users who want a MILC camera, so Cannon has given them one. However not selling their new camera in North America, or not making the EOS adapter easy to find doesn't help that cause.
Canon has foolishly put all their chips on DSLRS, when they should have been putting chips on both. Because both DSLR and MILC cameras will be around for a very long time. It really is baffling as to why Canon isn't aggressive in both markets.
That statistics says very little. How many users abandoned their SLR setup to move to stricktly mirrorless system? What total number of users we are talking about? Is that market even profitable?
I do not see many techonological challenges in producing MILC over DSLR. The products seem very similar apart from few nuances. When companies that offer MILC failed is mostly in marketing and purposely withholding features from specific offer.
My point is that Canon is quite successful and well run company. If they do not enter MILC market with a full force it is probably because their profit predictions do not justify it for them. It may be not popular among few 'enthusiasts' but it also does not mean that would lock them out of market when they think the time is right. It is not as if current MILC are perfect. There seems to be huge turnaround among MILC users.