Mark9473: "23 elements (in seven moving groups), seven of which are made from glass with anomalous partial dispersion"
I have zero interest in owning this lens, but I have to admire the skill that went into designing and producing it.
It would have taken skill to give maybe 90% of the quality but in a more realistic weight casing. The numerous comments here, mocking the size and weight, are an indication that most reasonable people, even professionals, are not wanting that size of lens.
It'd be interesting if someone could tell us the street price of the early Leica M3, M2 and M4 in today's money, to see if Leica's back then were rich people's toys. Without seeing the data, I assume they were working-men's cameras, although maybe slightly more expensive? What if? What if Leica had pitched their prices at the Nikon and Canon price range, or just kept at the same market tier they were decades ago? Could Leica have survived?
rsf3127: I am speechless about this mirrorless system.
Speechlessness doesn't prevent typing on a keyboard.
40daystogo: First off, I think the camera is ugly - but then again, everyone's taste differs. (To put this in perspective, I love the design of Apple, Leica M's, Sony A7 series, Olympus Pen F - I hate Lumix's designs. This Pentax is even uglier than the Lumix's, that's how ugly this Pentax is to my eye).
Next, I think Pentax would have been better off bringing a Full Frame mirrorless system to take on Sony. There's no way that Pentax can compete with the market leaders Canon and Nikon, with Sony coming in 3rd. There just isn't room for another FF DSLR.
Whereas in the FF Mirrorless, apart from Sony there's no one else. All the other mirrorless systems have smaller sensors. Pentax should have tried to become No.2 in FF mirrorless behind Sony.
@MacroBokeh To an extent, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And, truly, that is the politically correct approach. But, if you consider Apple design vs Taiwan PC design, using that example, it is possible to acknowledge that some people have an eye for design, while other companies just never will get it. Using that empirical approach, the majority of the population fall into the "will never get it" category. When you read that, you naturally could be insulted by it. But you can see that it is an objectively true statement relative to Apple vs PC design. Using that example, Apple design is acknowledged as being the benchmark. There is an equivalent in camera design. That's all I'm saying.
@MikeF4Black I'm passionate about gorgeous design whereas you're not. My choice of emotive words is to indicate the level of enthusiasm I have for beauty in design.
Surely Sigma must realise they are losing sales by omitting OSS/IS from the Sony APS-C lenses. I myself would love to get some Sigma primes for my A6000 -- but cannot because of the lack of OSS/IS. Now, if Sony brings ISIS to their APS-C range, then suddenly Sigma lenses become an option for me, but not without IBIS/OSS/IS.
First off, I think the camera is ugly - but then again, everyone's taste differs. (To put this in perspective, I love the design of Apple, Leica M's, Sony A7 series, Olympus Pen F - I hate Lumix's designs. This Pentax is even uglier than the Lumix's, that's how ugly this Pentax is to my eye).
40daystogo: I like how just the word OLYMPUS appears on the frontplate of the camera. I don't like the word OLYMPUS PEN that they use on the PEN series. Why can't it, there, be just OLYMPUS as well? Looks more stylish without the word PEN.
Nixyx, yes, I realise that, but as a person who never used Olympus before I do not have any emotional connection to the PEN name, so, to me, it just looks like bad design.
40daystogo: Disappointed at lack of IBIS and the higher price. So I am glad I will NOT need to upgrade my A6000.
Sony updated the things I don't care for, but ignored the one thing I needed.
I desperately wanted IBIS, so if no IBIS I'll wait for next update. I need IBIS because so many of Sony's prime lenses don't have OSS. I also need IBIS for use with legacy lenses. I also need IBIS to use Sigma's non-OSS lenses.
Don't like the weight increase (I'd accept weight increase for IBIS, but not for other features).
The A6000's fast autofocus was fine for me, so I don't care much for the slightly better focus of the A6300.
I don't do much video, so don't care for the 4K video feature.
If Sony raise prices to Fuji level, I might switch to Fuji.
Happy to continue with my A6000 until Sony's next update. A6000's image quality is so good that I don't need to update until Sony bring out APS-C IBIS. So even if the next update around 2018 lacks IBIS, I still won't upgrade.
If Sony was targeting the video crowd, then they should have provide an articulating screen to allow the user to video themselves. Such screens are not just for selfies, but would be very useful for producing documentaries where the person speaks to the video camera.
I like how just the word OLYMPUS appears on the frontplate of the camera. I don't like the word OLYMPUS PEN that they use on the PEN series. Why can't it, there, be just OLYMPUS as well? Looks more stylish without the word PEN.
Disappointed at lack of IBIS and the higher price. So I am glad I will NOT need to upgrade my A6000.
OliverGlass: Question DPReview....Has Nikon finally incorporated a Real Time Exposure Simulation done via Live View? It's available even on enthusiast point and shoots. Nikon, for some unknown reason, made a silly implementation of this on past Nikon bodies like the D800 series where the exposure preview in live view was "off by a couple of stops" when fiddling with the shutter speed or using filters --- it wasn't the exposure you'll be getting post capture.
@Rishi, I think that @OliverGlass means by "real time exposure simulation" is where, when you're taking a long exposure star light, night photograph, the camera gives you a real time visual indication of what the photo looks like with the amount of exposure so far, so that you're not guessing, but can wait until the real-time indication reaches the correct exposure. I forget which camera has that - I think it's one of the Olympus mirrorless OMs?
Are the two images taken concurrently or one after the other, i.e. what if there is moving action in the scene such as people walking, or boats moving down a river?
Coyote_Cody: Has Nikon sold any of these Nikon Df (in comparison to development costs) ? What real photographer wants this beyond nostalgia or utter retro ??
I adored the looks of my old Nikon FE, FE2, FM, FM2 -- but the Df, which is modelled of the FM2, looks like a Frankenstein, IMO, almost like a battleship.
RC Photography: Very nice review. Thanks Rishi Sanyal, Richard Butler, and Dan Bracaglia.
For anyone looking for a new system with $3400, this should be at the top of the list.
To TheGreatfulBread , I saw the D750 on eBay for $1600 recently. Anyone on a smaller budget looking at stills only could not go wrong with that.
I am a Nikon user for several decades with a good collection of manual-focus Nikon lenses. It's ironic, therefore, that I am attracted to Sony full-frame, instead of Nikon, because Sony offers the possibility of using those old Nikon lenses in stabilization mode, whereas Nikon FF does not.
I don't get it. The Leica SL's performance looks no different to the Lumix GM5 which only has a micro 4/3rds sensor.
I've owned a Leica M before, and another digital Leica - but these test results beg the question of the SL - "whether the emperor has clothes".
zakaria: from what iam seeing this machine is the most beautifull dslr for my taste.it is the k5 approch with 645z look.with pentax unique features and this design pentax is a winner.
@samhain, I love older cameras too, and still hang on to my Nikon FE2 and FM2 for keepsakes, but in comparison to the FM/FM2, Nikon's DF looked like a Frankenstein. And this Pentax one looks like that to me, but each to his or her own.
I logged onto DPReview to make the point that, to me, the Pentax DSLR is really ugly and that Pentax have no idea how to create gorgeous design - but then the first comment I read was yours, praising its beauty. So, truly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that, like dating the opposite sex, it's good that everyone has different taste.
rsf3127: Either Leica hired a hobbit to pose with the camera or it is akwardly big for a mirrorless.
My thoughts too. The photos appear as if someone photoshopped an enlarged version of the camera into the person's hands - and then it dawns on you that the camera really is that large.
If you're willing to carry this amount of heft and weight, why not just get a Nikon D810?
40daystogo: For Pentax's DSLRs, in terms of design, Pentax is like Samsung and Panasonic- no sense of artistic design. Their designs are ok, but not gorgeous or at least admirable.
All things being equal -- and that's often the case these days, with most cameras being able to take good shots -- then the appeal of visual design becomes an important issue for me.
Canon DSLR's are 7. Nikon DSLRs are about 7 or 8 - I prefer them to the Canon plastic-mound-of-plastic concept.
Sony A7's are 8 from a beauty aspect, but not the best ergonomically.
I like Leica M and their Vario X.
Olympus OM-D E-M5 is an 8. I'm a fan of the original OM1 and OM2 film cameras.
Fujifilm X-E2 is an 8.
Nothing from Panasonic m43 grabs me.
While I'm attracted to the clean, angular design of the Sony A7 second generation, I also like some of the retro designs of Fujifilm's X100 series.
I don't like Olympus's Pen series.
Many people like the Fujifilm XT-1 - and I appreciate it's functionality with lots of dials - but can't find love for its Tiger-tank shape. I'm more into the design style of Sony A7's - but appreciate it's a matter of taste. I'd give the XT-1 a score of 6. This is purely from a beauty aspect, and nothing to do with ergonomics. For ergonomics, I'd give the XT-1 a 9.
A7 series could benefit from more external controls.