kewlguy: Leica is more a living fossil than the pandas.
M240- first-class images. What more do you need- value for money?
Old Cameras: So an 80mm f2.8 lens will yield 56mm and about f2.0 on a full frame camera. Plus whatever interesting artifacts are added by the reducer optics, combined with the less than stellar optics of the original lens, plus manual focus and likely manual exposure. It might be fun to do, assuming you already have the MF lenses, but there's really no compelling reason. I like the comment about a mechanical adapter with no optics and using it as a shift lens to take advantage of the larger image circle. That sounds more useful since shift lenses and pricey.
" and using it as a shift lens to take advantage of the larger image circle. That sounds more useful since shift lenses and pricey."A shift lens for architecture on a FF camera needs to be 35mm or 28mm. I bought an Olympus 35mm shift lens for £200 and have had good results shifted+well stopped down. The Nikon 28mm might cost £300. There was a 24mm Olympus but very expensive.Philip
Rick Knepper: Why does this seem like a Sony-centric forum? Because of the easy adaptability, Canon users have been adapting many brands of lenses long before Sony released their first ILC.
Sounds like you have an M10. If it's anything like mine, the focus peaking is not its best feature, hard to spot, sometimes hard to get to appear. However the magnified view of the image is good.Mine's back at the manufacturer getting infinity focus fixed!Philip
DF58: How many are looking at "legacy" lenses on digital - is it worth it?
I have a small number of well used Leica screw mount lenses (and a couple of Leica IIIs). Then an M3 and bayonet adaptor. (also a Visoflex!). Then digital happened.
Thinking about a Panasonic GX7 (GX8 looks lovely but too expensive) with 14-140 lens, but what about those old Leica lenses?
Presumably with the EVF framefinding is not a problem - even with a stopped down lens. Is the EVF good enough for manual focus? (I tried manual focus on my LX100 and was pleasantly surprised). In body image stabilisation presumably will have some functionality?
Now to adaptors. Ideally a screw to MFT, but if necessary a Leica M Bayonet to MFT & my Leica screw to bayonet adaptor. Must be more solid than the 14-42 kit lens that I tried a year ago on a GX7 (not saying very much). Anyone seen a visoflex to MFT adaptor - or again will that be a matter of multiple adaptors?
Presumably you set the stop & put the shutter speed to Auto?
"Thinking about a Panasonic GX7... with 14-140 lens, but what about those old Leica lenses?"I just bought a little GF7 and a 14-140mm zoom (not the brightest of lenses) and wonder what Leica lenses would do for me- I have a few (f2 or f4) and CV 12mm, 15mm, 21mm. Not much scope for using the Leica mount lenses unless the f2 would suit. M43 uses only the centre of field of the 35mm lenses so corner softness/vignetting wouldn't show up.
I do have an Olympus 55mm macro on an adapter which works with M4/3 but the working distance close-up is quite small... a 100mm lens standing further back would give better perspective.One problem I have not overcome is that slr lenses intended for 24x36mm give a much narrower angle view of building interiors on M4/3. I don't think the CV 12mm f5.6 would be much help here; pity M4/3 ultrawides are so expensive.Philip
olyduck1: Leica M glass on Sony A 7R II - I have some M mount Leica lenses circa early 1960's. Setting aside issues of connectivity and functionality, I was wondering about any opinions of how well these old lenses do OPTICALLY when used via adapters on the newer digital cameras.
I'm trying to decide whether to just use my Leica M-3 and scan the film as needed vs. investing in a digital camera that could really take advantage of the Leica M glass.
I used a 90mm f4 Elmar from the 1950s on my M240. Stopped well down on a sunny day it was remarkably sharp. Currently I am using a 1975 40mm Summicron to good effect. My old f4 135mm Elmar is very sharp stopped down a little for some depth of field. Maybe a dealer will allow you to try your lenses with an adapter on a Sony.Philip
nycgazelle: Too many people complaining about the price. Jesus christ people. Life isn't cheap, nor is this camera. Its a far better value than LEICA or really any other compact full frame camera out there. I had to return the mark 1 when I had it because I had become accustomed to the 36mp files that just looked more natural and film like to me than the smaller mp of the rx1r. Now that its the bigger sensor, I can use it for work and travel. The price point is TOTALLY fair for what you get with this camera.
I liked your comment about Leica, value for money.... However Leica equipment does last a long time, given the occasional service.I use a 1970s 40mm f2 Summicron successfully on M4-P, M9 and M240. Will Sony equipment last? Will old lenses get excluded by changing technology?Philip
Photoman: Can this be a forum were we can all live in peace and harmony and enjoy our lenses...lets hope :) I love my Canon, Takumar, Contax G, Leica M, Minolta MD, Nikon F lenses on my Sony bodies. One lens doesn't troll the other lens, they just do their job.
How do the results of the Leica M lens on the Sony body compare with those on the Leica M? I have a Leica M (currently at Leica HO for an adjustment to the rangefinder). Is there some advantage to the Sony? I have a few Olympus OM lenses that might suit.
I never really found the ideal bag but I bought a lot of others. Fortunately they were all used/eBay; as my outfit varied so a choice of bags was handy. Some days I would carry more weight than others, sometimes less. I doubt the whole lot cost $400 altogether. Bags get made in the Orient so a $400+ price looks a rip-off. (Anybody got an opinion on mobile phone prices?)Philip
bovverwonder: They must've made this with Leica SL in mind, and just as ugly.
The SL isn't ugly. It's just oversized and overpriced, as were the Leica R slrs. (I had a few). Will Leica sell many?Philip
But it's a must-have if you want to impress!Philip
JakeB: Can anyone report on the NON-SLIP qualities of these straps?
In other words, when I have my Fujifilm X-E2 over my shoulder with this strap, will it start to slide off, as my current strap does?
Better to put the strap round your neck, as that way it's harder to snatch the camera and run... Applies to ladies' handbags too.Philip
fatdeeman: Not convinced the corner quality of these is going to be all that great but hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
From experience of using the CV lenses on a Leica M9 or M240, they give somewhat dim corners, to be put right in Pshop and no doubt the same applies on the Sony. What is a bit more of a problem is colour fringing on the vertical edges of a landscape image. Coding the lenses in as a Leica 21mm pre-aspheric reduces the problem. One way to deal with fringing is to select the area affected and reduce the red or magenta saturation. Another way is to crop the edges off! Quite often the images from ultrawide lenses need cropping anyway. Philip
colin turner: Shoot film _ more interesting than the state of your camera (was always the mantra). Shame photography has become a fashion statement. I had a student, amoungst many others with impressive equipment bags, he had an Agfa Clack _ couldn't and wouldn't have stopped him shooting pictures - as I recall he had his camera in a supetmarket plastic bag.Also bollovks to prefivtivr tect as it has taken me miles lonher to eritr thos thsn post a pigron.
I like a nice bag but it draws attention to itself. I prefer people to view my outfit bag with indifference, boredom even, in view of what the contents cost. Philip
Poweruser: And the rf ist still perfectly aligned? I have my doubts...
I didn't drop mine but the rangefinder needs adjustment. What should I do?Phil
thejohnnerparty: This new image processing and senor technology looks very promising. If it lives up to the promise, how are small senor P&S cameras going to survive?
The best small camera have sharp zoom lenses and better sensors than phones. If you want high quality images you won't get them from a phone.Phil
88SAL: Reminds me of miyazakis perar lenses. Is it rangefinder coupled?
The tiny Perar triplet lenses are sometimes seen for sale at high prices. Some comments can be seen online. Fall-off in the corners has been mentioned but what's new about that?Does anybody have personal experience of these lenses? Philip
Toccata47: Leica's sample images, as shot by Ragnar Axelsson, seem to show less dynamic range than the original, particularly in the blacks/shadow areas. This could very well simply be a matter of the quality of the uploaded files as they do seem pretty poor overall (hello iPhone).
Anyway, glad I bought the ccd model.
I used an M9 for 2 years; images improved when given extra exposure . This particularly applied to Voigtlander wide-angle images whose corners were vignetted and noisy. 1-2 stops more exposure made a real difference. Moving to an M240 I did see blown highlights; I set the exposure at minus 1 stop and an improvement resulted.I like the way both cameras wake up smartly when switched on; can't understand why some say otherwise. I use a fast card and SDFormatter. The playback is pretty quick. There are faults:the artificial horizon tilt thing is much better executed on my old Lumix G5. Dust is a regular visitor in the M9 but not the M240.A limited Leica outfit (camera and three lenses) can be carried with no effort (quite unlike my Canon V and zooms). In the real world however I just bought a big outfit bag and carry my M240 with a sackful of lenses until commonsense returns.The Canon is at Fixation having the mirror replaced.....Philip