Pretec 12 GB CF - just $14,900 ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Pretec 12 GB CF - just $14,900 ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 26, 2004

Oh man.

I was laughing SO HARD when I read this news. The Protec guys must really get their valves checked. No one in their right minds would pay that kind of money for a measely 12 GB CF card.

Id rather buy a light-weight laptop with CF reader and take it with me. It even ads the bonus of having ant entire computer at your disposal.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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But I can understand that SOME photographers need one. 8MP at 8fps fill up card very quickly. And the 1D's are heavy enough, thank you.
Please keep an open mind.
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Note to my editor:

I just shot the entire Olympics on one CF card but now I can't seem to call up the images. Can you help?

Keep smiling.

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Do you want that Wrapped Sir? No, I'll just put them in my pocket!!!!

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=VALOR= wrote:

Oh man.

I was laughing SO HARD when I read this news. The Protec guys must
really get their valves checked. No one in their right minds would
pay that kind of money for a measely 12 GB CF card.

You would be amazed. Digital camera owners are not the early adopters for large capacity cards. They're used in embedded systems. Sure, Nikon and Canon and Sony will buy one or two now, to verify that there won't be any problems in a year or two when the cards drop in price.

A few years ago, I built a fleet of data gathering computers. Each one used a pair of 440 meg cards (the biggest on the market at the time) and they cost either $1800 or $2800 each. Now 440 meg is worth about $40.

I can see something that needs speed reliability hooking 6 of these cards to a 6 port raid controller card, configuring it for a 4 drive raid 5 with 2 hot spares, and having a near unstopable, silent, low power, vibration immune 36 gig storage system that wouldn't quit until 3 of the cards had failed. Drop it onto a mountain top, or to the bottom of the sea, where the cost of replacing it would far exceed the $100,000 cost of building it.

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In reply to Joseph S Wisniewski, May 26, 2004

...I still find the price outrageous...
Im not saying that there is no use for such large cards. But at that price...

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Just as soon as they re-badge them with a little red dot and raise the price to $23,999....

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I would think that these cards might be the new preferred currency for thieves. It's hard to find something that small that is worth so much.

I remember when there was a rash of processor thefts from Intel and its distributors. The chips were small, and pound for pound worth more than drugs or gold, and still not illegal to merely possess.

As these cards get smaller and more expensive, thieves will like the idea of carrying around a million dollars worth of untraceable goods in a pocket.

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Uhm...

Buy an iPod 40gb for $500.00

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Jón Ragnarsson wrote:

But I can understand that SOME photographers need one. 8MP at 8fps
fill up card very quickly. And the 1D's are heavy enough, thank you.
Please keep an open mind.
J.

I think the open mind comment was gratuitously patronising and unnecessary.

You could run a 1D tethered straight on to the notebook via the PC cable and you could have 40G or whatever to fill up and still have change of 12K

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Re: Pretec 12 GB CF - just $14,900 ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In reply to =VALOR=, May 26, 2004

There are plenty that will buy it at that price.... I remember when 128mb of RAM cost more than some people's houses, and yet certain people bought it.... mostly companies, but still.

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Sean

=VALOR= wrote:

Oh man.

I was laughing SO HARD when I read this news. The Protec guys must
really get their valves checked. No one in their right minds would
pay that kind of money for a measely 12 GB CF card.

Id rather buy a light-weight laptop with CF reader and take it with
me. It even ads the bonus of having ant entire computer at your
disposal.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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In reply to W Fenn, May 26, 2004

Well my take on that is, why not? I have been using CF cards for going on 8 years and never had one go bad. I know there are people who have had them go bad... but what percentage of CF cards out there go bad? .01%? We trust a lot more data to our 200 gig hard drives, to CDs and DVDs that can get scratched and are much more likely to lose data. As long as you treat them carefully they are safer than most hard drives.

Not to mention with the higher res cameras coming out.... like the Fuji S3 needing 24mb per RAW file, we are going to start needing these larger cards. 41 shots per 1 gig or 500 shots on a 12 gig card. That is not all that many shots really.

Now with a camera that averages 2mb per shot, I can see how it would be scary as you would be entrusting 6,000 shots to one card. If the card went bad with that many shots on it, it might make you want to cry for a week. I trust CF for the most part. Accidents happen, of course, but that is the case with any storage medium.

If the data is really important, there are services available that can retrieve almost all the data on a CF card almost 100% of the time, although it is costly. Higher capacity CF? I say bring it on!!! Someday those 12gig cards will be 200 dollars at best buy.

I remember the days where 128mb of RAM cost more than some people's houses! Remember that? Now I have 2 gigs of RAM in my laptop! There is a saying, you can never have too much money, be too pretty, or have too much memory... or something like that ;).

Regards,
Sean

W Fenn wrote:

Note to my editor:
I just shot the entire Olympics on one CF card but now I can't seem
to call up the images. Can you help?

Keep smiling.

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In reply to BobTrips, May 26, 2004

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Bob you made me create quite a scene with my laughter on that one!

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BobTrips wrote:

Just as soon as they re-badge them with a little red dot and raise
the price to $23,999....

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In reply to Jon Ragnarsson, May 26, 2004

I hope these 12 gig cards have some blinding fast transfer rates! at 6mb/Sec of the average USB 2.0 CF card reader it would take 33 minutes to complete a transfer! Yikes! Better not even attempt it with USB 1... it would take over 3 hours!

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Sean

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=VALOR= wrote:

Oh man.

I was laughing SO HARD when I read this news. The Protec guys must
really get their valves checked. No one in their right minds would
pay that kind of money for a measely 12 GB CF card.

Id rather buy a light-weight laptop with CF reader and take it with
me. It even ads the bonus of having ant entire computer at your
disposal.

Absolutely ridiculous.

But rumor has it if you buy this 12GB CF card for $14,900 ONLY, you will get a bonus Canon EOS-1Ds digital SLR camera plus 5 Canon L lenses for free:-)

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In reply to Joseph S Wisniewski, May 26, 2004

For the same price, buy a laptop and hire a full time intern to offload your images to the laptop while you continue with another card.

Joseph S. Wisniewski wrote:

=VALOR= wrote:

Oh man.

I was laughing SO HARD when I read this news. The Protec guys must
really get their valves checked. No one in their right minds would
pay that kind of money for a measely 12 GB CF card.

You would be amazed. Digital camera owners are not the early
adopters for large capacity cards. They're used in embedded
systems. Sure, Nikon and Canon and Sony will buy one or two now, to
verify that there won't be any problems in a year or two when the
cards drop in price.

A few years ago, I built a fleet of data gathering computers. Each
one used a pair of 440 meg cards (the biggest on the market at the
time) and they cost either $1800 or $2800 each. Now 440 meg is
worth about $40.

I can see something that needs speed reliability hooking 6 of these
cards to a 6 port raid controller card, configuring it for a 4
drive raid 5 with 2 hot spares, and having a near unstopable,
silent, low power, vibration immune 36 gig storage system that
wouldn't quit until 3 of the cards had failed. Drop it onto a
mountain top, or to the bottom of the sea, where the cost of
replacing it would far exceed the $100,000 cost of building it.

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In reply to Jon Ragnarsson, May 26, 2004

I agree with you, but I don't think that any photographer would buy it for the moment. But large agencies that hire the photographers probably would buy this CF-card, as they have the money. They know that some important shots are lost because the photographer needs to change cards between shots in sports events, news, and fashion photography.

-Andre

Jón Ragnarsson wrote:

But I can understand that SOME photographers need one. 8MP at 8fps
fill up card very quickly. And the 1D's are heavy enough, thank you.
Please keep an open mind.
J.

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dumb marketing, worse price
In reply to =VALOR=, May 26, 2004

for the price of that card i can buy 53 - 1 gb Lexar 40x cards

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Who would want to worry about 53 CF cards! Uggh! No thanks! Believe me, even at this price there are going to be plenty of sales. Most likely magazines and companies of various types. To some companies the benifits of 12gigs in 1 card far outweigh the costs involved, and that price is a drop in the bucket on what their equiptment budgets are each year. These cards are not targeted at the common consumer like you and I. Besides give it a couple years and the price will be much more managable. Don't get all bent out of shape just because you cannot afford it. There are plenty who can. We should thank them because it is they who will drive the price down eventually. I remember when one 3D workstation SGI computer cost over 100,000 (and not too long ago either... like 5 years ago). Now you can get a laptop for $3,000 with the same and even greater capabilities thanks to NVidia and ATI etc. But that workstation was not targeting average 3D users.... they are targeting the movie/television ad companies that have the budget to afford these things.

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Sean

Stealth wrote:

for the price of that card i can buy 53 - 1 gb Lexar 40x cards

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