Sexist Forum?

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Frances
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In reply to Sal Giambruno, Nov 18, 2000

Take a look at this:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1005&message=592833

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a
female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message,
interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of
which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts,
unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely
unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my
observations without merit?

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Ger Bee
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In reply to Sal Giambruno, Nov 18, 2000

Is this Sal feminine?

Most men think women as somewhat stupid and credit men with more intelligence.

Men absolutely hate a stupid man but will tolerate and even elaborately support a 'stupid' woman. Furthermore a man will actively think another man as stupid and will ignore or even killfile the individual, but that same man will rarely actively tag any woman the same (consciously) but will freely offer support and guidance which is usually more accurate and complete than a similar conversation with another (equal) male, where monosyllable discussions (between males) drive most women nuts.

I get most of my information by sending my wife into stores to ‘sound out’ the sales people; she usually comes out speaking quadruple Chinese. Thus armed I can then attack the same sale staff and extrapolate intelligent information to whit my wife ALWAYS replies ‘Why didn’t he (nearly always a he) say that to ME?’

All that said it can be taken with a pinch of salt as most Usenet users expect pseudonyms anyway it can’t be taken that a feminine name is anything such. My first ventures into Usenet were always under a feminine name.

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a
female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message,
interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of
which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts,
unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely
unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my
observations without merit?

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Nancy O.
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In reply to Sal Giambruno, Nov 18, 2000

I have been into digital photography since I purchased a 950 when it first hit the market and now have the 990. From the day I stumbled into this forum, I have received extremely helpful answers to my questions, and like Ruth stated, I have always tried to avoid "repeat" questions.

I notice that sometimes the newbie questions go unanswered, but I don't see a direct correlation of male vs female. I do feel that many questions are sometimes so basic, ie; "where are my menus" that sometimes there is no response. On the other hand, I have learned SO much from all the great people here and I don't think my questions have had "weighted" responses.

I would also like to say that I own every (well almost) piece of gear available to the 990 and from a technical aspect, I can go on and on and on (ask my husband) about the camera and a particular shot. I visit the forum more than once a day and although I don't always post, I read EVERYTHING. Yes indeed, ladies can be VERY addicted to photography.

A strong factor in your assessment may be that males do dominate this forum, making the majority of the "reponses" from men. I just wish there were more women out there to even the scales. Maybe that would help balance the postings and replies. Unfortunately, we are few.

But the reality is that we all, MALE or FEMALE come here because we love photography and cameras we use to one degree of another. That what it's all about, to laugh, learn and most of all, have fun.

Take care,
Nancy ; )

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a
female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message,
interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of
which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts,
unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely
unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my
observations without merit?

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d sullivan
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In reply to Sal Giambruno, Nov 19, 2000

Got me, sal. None under your bed, none here! I came back to see who exposed himorherself (as asexist that is) Where have they gone?

dh

Sal Giambruno wrote:
Aha, d, made you look though, more than once, I might add . . .

P.S. Since your next-to-last post in this thread, I've checked
under my bed every night . . . so far, no sexists to report of have
been spotted . . .

d sullivan wrote:
Well, Sal. you will have to come up with another marginal subject
that you can post another 17 times to. This one is just about dead.

dh

Sal Giambruno wrote:
Michael, PowerPet is the only female that has responded, as far as
I am aware.

Michael Puckett wrote:
So far a meriad of responses have been rec'd, the bulk in good
taste. I was wondering though, if by chance you noticed how many
members of the kinder sex commented in this thread?

- - -

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a
female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message,
interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of
which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts,
unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely
unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my
observations without merit?

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Sal Giambruno
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Re: Sexist Forum?
In reply to Ger Bee, Nov 19, 2000

Ger Bee,

No, Sal is not female, but Sally would be . . .

Ger Beee wrote:
Is this Sal feminine?

Most men think women as somewhat stupid and credit men with more
intelligence.

Men absolutely hate a stupid man but will tolerate and even
elaborately support a 'stupid' woman. Furthermore a man will
actively think another man as stupid and will ignore or even
killfile the individual, but that same man will rarely actively tag
any woman the same (consciously) but will freely offer support and
guidance which is usually more accurate and complete than a similar
conversation with another (equal) male, where monosyllable
discussions (between males) drive most women nuts.

I get most of my information by sending my wife into stores to
‘sound out’ the sales people; she usually comes out
speaking quadruple Chinese. Thus armed I can then attack the same
sale staff and extrapolate intelligent information to whit my wife
ALWAYS replies ‘Why didn’t he (nearly always a he) say
that to ME?’

All that said it can be taken with a pinch of salt as most Usenet
users expect pseudonyms anyway it can’t be taken that a
feminine name is anything such. My first ventures into Usenet were
always under a feminine name.

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a
female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message,
interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of
which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts,
unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely
unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my
observations without merit?

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Sal Giambruno
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In reply to d sullivan, Nov 19, 2000

I think they were all diverted by Frances' post of the nice picture of Lisa Chang and her breasts, err, her cat, hehe. That cleared the room real quick . . .

d sullivan wrote:
Got me, sal. None under your bed, none here! I came back to see
who exposed himorherself (as asexist that is) Where have they gone?

dh

Sal Giambruno wrote:
Aha, d, made you look though, more than once, I might add . . .

P.S. Since your next-to-last post in this thread, I've checked
under my bed every night . . . so far, no sexists to report of have
been spotted . . .

d sullivan wrote:
Well, Sal. you will have to come up with another marginal subject
that you can post another 17 times to. This one is just about dead.

dh

Sal Giambruno wrote:
Michael, PowerPet is the only female that has responded, as far as
I am aware.

Michael Puckett wrote:
So far a meriad of responses have been rec'd, the bulk in good
taste. I was wondering though, if by chance you noticed how many
members of the kinder sex commented in this thread?

- - -

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a
female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message,
interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of
which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts,
unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely
unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my
observations without merit?

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surgeongirl
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Cary wrote:

Sal,

Seems like you might have an underdeveloped masculine side. Just change your name to Sally in this forum and see if you get the attention your pointing at.

May be we should see all this in different perspective,

’Scientists have somehow missed definitions of gender in human beings,” states Dr. Makarand Fulzele. Insights gained from years of practice as surgeon makes him wonder if indeed we have overlooked facts staring in our face. Nature has a tendency to hide many secrets but at the same time it provides enough clues to unravel its mysteries. Dr. Fulzele picks up loose threads from life to stitch together the theory that man is an extension of woman in his new book, “Man Is the Extension of Woman: Know the Ultimate Truth about Yourself” (published by iUniverse). Dr. Fulzele’s book explores similarities between men and women against the backdrop of their genetic differences, physical variations, and emotional and intellectual dissimilarities. Dr. Fulzele who is a successful surgeon further explains in his book: The main hypothesis I discuss in this book is that, if a woman lives long enough she will be converted into a man physically. A similar thing can also be stated about man. It is wrong to categorize humankind into two genders as it implicates that they are extremely dissimilar and physically opposite to each other. I try to prove that man and woman are just two different stages of one developmental process. And physically they are very similar. The ideas presented may sound unconventional but Dr. Fulzele implores readers to consider his point of view with an open mind. “Your world will not change if you do not agree with me. But if you agree with me, how does it change your world? If more people agree with you and me, how does it change our world? The possibilities are limitless.”

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toomanycanons
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In reply to Sal Giambruno, Sep 22, 2013

Hallucination. We give the ladies as much useless information as we do the guys.  Equality!

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From year 2000?? LOL
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Wow, I did not realize the archive went that far back.

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Sactojim wrote:

Wow, I did not realize the archive went that far back.

Blame it on surgeongirl.  Yes, a woman resurrected this thread.

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toomanycanons wrote:

Blame it on surgeongirl. Yes, a woman resurrected this thread.

No, someone with 'girl' in the name, who has never posted before and is now only pitching a book written by a man.  The book's premise is that a woman who lives long enough just might be able to become a man after all....  

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Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message, interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts, unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my observations without merit?

I cannot believe this. Whiny leftwingers are everywhere. Now there are cries of 'sexism' in a photography site. I am incredulous. 

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toomanycanons wrote:

Blame it on surgeongirl. Yes, a woman resurrected this thread.

No, someone with 'girl' in the name, who has never posted before and is now only pitching a book written by a man. The book's premise is that a woman who lives long enough just might be able to become a man after all....

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Ah.  Can't wait for the next ten years worth of updates on this thread.

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Does not prove tis sexist. And no, I don't get shedloads of replies.

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toomanycanons wrote:

Sactojim wrote:

Wow, I did not realize the archive went that far back.

Blame it on surgeongirl. Yes, a woman resurrected this thread.

I read something which made me restless, so needed the outlet and I utilized it when I got it. Thats what happen when you read a newage book , i got something more which caught my eye and through this door of eye entered the brain and then refused to leave.............

"Some species, such as some snails, practice sex change: adults start out male, then become female (See also sex reversal). In tropical clown fish, the dominant individual in a group becomes female while the other ones are male, and bluehead wrasses (Thalassoma bifasciatum) are the reverse. In the marine worm (Bonellia viridis), larvae become males if they make physical contact with a female, and females if they end up on the bare sea floor. This is triggered by the presence of a chemical produced by the females, bonellin. Some species, however, have no sex-determination system. Hermaphrodites include the common earthworm and certain species of snails. A few species of fish, reptiles, and insects reproduce by parthenogenesis and are female altogether. There are some reptiles, such as the boa constrictor and komodo dragon that can reproduce sexually and asexually, depending if a mate is available"(ref-Man is the extension of woman)God has created man in his own image but left some clues in animal kingdom, As intellectually superiors it is our duty to unveil it.

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Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message, interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts, unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my observations without merit?

Show me some post from a pretty girl and I will be there answering in no time! Call me sexist if you want but I can't fight my politeness to girls! LOL

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Do you actually operate on people?

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Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message, interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts, unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my observations without merit?

I'm not going to answer this.

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Do you actually operate on people?

Yeah I do but I am still post graduating in surgery. But that's apart  I don't think my personal opinion and professional qualification are interconnected

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Aberaeron wrote:

Sal Giambruno wrote:

I believe I am noticing a sexist trend in this NG. To wit, when a female (or someone with a feminine pen) posts a message, interesting or not, she ends up with a flood of replies, most of which are overly elaborate. On the other hand, when a male posts, unless the question is of great interest, it goes largely unnoticed. Is this a "Damsel in Distress" syndrome, or are my observations without merit?

I'm not going to answer this.

This is a 13 year old thread.

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