Panasonic kills the LX Series

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f2toms Regular Member • Posts: 194
Panasonic kills the LX Series
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Panasonic has just killed the LX Series of Compact Cameras. Yes, the new LX-BIG camera has great potential, but it is not a Compact Camera.

1) You better have really big pockets
2) Where is the Flash (oh, ok, you keep the cheap add on flash in a separate pocket)
3 ) Can we shoot pictures where cameras are not allowed, NO
4) What compact has ever been this good in low light?
5) A Great Compact with Very Good Images is DEAD !

Thanks Pannies

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Best buy an LX7 quick then

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OP f2toms Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: Panasonic kills the LX Series

You are Right. I will keep my 2 LX3's and LX7, forever, all in mint condition (Over 40,000 images) But it is the time to Buy.

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f2toms wrote:

3 ) Can we shoot pictures where cameras are not allowed, NO

I don't think Panasonic cameras are actually designed to skirt such rules. Maybe the LUMIX CM1 might better meet your needs. Or you can always get a Minox.

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One_Oldman_4U Senior Member • Posts: 1,315
Smartphones are killing pocketable cameras...Panasonic smartphone w/ 1" sensor
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f2toms wrote:

Panasonic has just killed the LX Series of Compact Cameras. Yes, the new LX-BIG camera has great potential, but it is not a Compact Camera.

1) You better have really big pockets
2) Where is the Flash (oh, ok, you keep the cheap add on flash in a separate pocket)
3 ) Can we shoot pictures where cameras are not allowed, NO
4) What compact has ever been this good in low light?
5) A Great Compact with Very Good Images is DEAD !

Thanks Pannies

Smartphones are killing compact cameras, even high end small compacts. Bigger sensor size on small P&S enthusiasts is the new trend. Yes the Sony RX100 (I,II,III) are small and to me, they are too small and I have small hands. Panasonic has to come up with something to compete with the 1" sensor compact and they did an excellent job with the LX100 with a bigger than 1" sensor. I too, have the LX3 and LX7 but the new LX100 is very appealing to me and seriously considering one. Between the LX100 and the FZ1000 will be my carry everywhere tandem camera and my M4/3 will be my specialty camera.

Pretty soon, the only compact cameras that camera manufacturers will produce are high ends compact with bigger sensor (bigger size) for the enthusiasts like us, the people in this and other forums. The pocketable cameras will soon belong to the high end smartphones.

Just take a look at this, Panasonic now is putting 1" sensor in cell phone

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/15/panasonic-lumix-cm1/

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OP f2toms Regular Member • Posts: 194
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You make some very good points. But, a 1''sensor would appeal to many in a LX 7 size camera.

captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,477
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f2toms wrote:

You make some very good points. But, a 1''sensor would appeal to many in a LX 7 size camera.

There have been rumors for some time now that an LX8 with 1" sensor will still be introduced, in the future.

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Paul Rumohr Regular Member • Posts: 115
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I whole heartedly agree. I'm not ready to record my entire pleasure vacation on a single focal length smart phone

f2toms wrote:

You make some very good points. But, a 1''sensor would appeal to many in a LX 7 size camera.

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Sure the smart phones are probably the future, but the quality even with larger sensors isn't there yet.

LX8, 1" sensor, small viewfinder(doesn't have to be greatest), fast lens of course, with good(not the very best) video could be priced well.

And it would be in my Pocket.

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Re: Smartphones are killing pocketable cameras...Panasonic smartphone w/ 1" sensor

Smartphones are killing compact cameras, even high end small compacts. Bigger sensor size on small P&S enthusiasts is the new trend. Yes the Sony RX100 (I,II,III) are small and to me, they are too small and I have small hands. Panasonic has to come up with something to compete with the 1" sensor compact and they did an excellent job with the LX100 with a bigger than 1" sensor. I too, have the LX3 and LX7 but the new LX100 is very appealing to me and seriously considering one. Between the LX100 and the FZ1000 will be my carry everywhere tandem camera and my M4/3 will be my specialty camera.

Pretty soon, the only compact cameras that camera manufacturers will produce are high ends compact with bigger sensor (bigger size) for the enthusiasts like us, the people in this and other forums. The pocketable cameras will soon belong to the high end smartphones.

Just take a look at this, Panasonic now is putting 1" sensor in cell phone

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/15/panasonic-lumix-cm1/

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Is that a camera first then phone or phone first then a cam? Looks promising. Another gadget to consider.

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Paul Rumohr Regular Member • Posts: 115
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Amen to that my brother

If it's out of your pocket, it may as well be a Fuji X camera because you're going to have to figure a way to carry and protect it separately anyway.

f2toms wrote:

Sure the smart phones are probably the future, but the quality even with larger sensors isn't there yet.

LX8, 1" sensor, small viewfinder(doesn't have to be greatest), fast lens of course, with good(not the very best) video could be priced well.

And it would be in my Pocket.

captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,477
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Paul Rumohr wrote:

Amen to that my brother

If it's out of your pocket, it may as well be a Fuji X camera because you're going to have to figure a way to carry and protect it separately anyway.

f2toms wrote:

Sure the smart phones are probably the future, but the quality even with larger sensors isn't there yet.

LX8, 1" sensor, small viewfinder(doesn't have to be greatest), fast lens of course, with good(not the very best) video could be priced well.

And it would be in my Pocket.

Fuji X30, identical size as LX100, same 12 mp (LX100 is restricted down from 16mp)

$599.

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,477
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Thanks John.

The G7X, with which I was unfamiliar, seems to be more of a direct competitor for the Sony RX100 III. They are almost identically sized and both have a 1" sensor.

Here is the Camera Size comparison:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#573,555

So, I ask in turn, is the Canon G7X With 1" Sensor the new Sony RX100?

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,477
Re: Canon G7X With 1" Sensor is the new LX7?

captura wrote:

Thanks John.

The G7X, with which I was unfamiliar, seems to be more of a direct competitor for the Sony RX100 III. They are almost identically sized and both have a 1" sensor.

Here is the Camera Size comparison:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#573,555

So, I ask in turn, is the Canon G7X With 1" Sensor the new Sony RX100?

OK, a GX7 preview:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-g7x/canon-g7xA.HTM

So this has no EVF. It is therefore a direct competitor to the RX100 II and NOT the RX100 III.

Similar zoom range. But $700 vs $399 for the RX100 II, an adverytised price which I saw today.

So, the RX100 series are still the better buy at Best Buy....

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Pretty much ...but a new player

for there's a new player in that market

the DMC-CM1

fully pocketable

1" sensor

4K video

Builtin flash

Only thing missing is a zoom (wait for Mark II)

With the advent of 1" sensor I think Pana may forego the smaller sensors going forward

A Panny executive actually mentioned that in an earlier press conference: they 'll spend their resources on larger sensor and more expensive cameras ( > $400.00))

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OP f2toms Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: Pretty much ...but a new player

The CM1 is a huge step in the right direction. It may be perfect.

My guess would be it will take a few tries for companies to make smartphones effective as cameras, but we shall see. I will give Panasonic credit for the CM1 ! Yes, there is a new Player.

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f2toms wrote:

Panasonic has just killed the LX Series of Compact Cameras. Yes, the new LX-BIG camera has great potential, but it is not a Compact Camera.

1) You better have really big pockets

At least 10mm larger than before.  LX7 was not a pocket camera

2) Where is the Flash (oh, ok, you keep the cheap add on flash in a separate pocket)

So problem solved then?

3 ) Can we shoot pictures where cameras are not allowed, NO

Why would the LX7 be allowed where LX100 is not?  No cameras = no cameras

4) What compact has ever been this good in low light?

LX100 should be at least 2 stops better, so......

5) A Great Compact with Very Good Images is DEAD !

But we have an even better one with outstanding images just being born.

The LX100 is the same size in terms of WxH and only adds <10mm to the depth, much of which is the eyecup.

You act like the LX7 was a 19mm thin Canon Elph or something.  It was a thick and large compact.  I never put my LX5 in my pocket because it was too chunky.   This will fit in the same kinds of pouches most put their LX7 into now.

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Nope, they just made it the one most desireable, high quality compacts out there now.
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f2toms wrote:

Panasonic has just killed the LX Series of Compact Cameras. Yes, the new LX-BIG camera has great potential, but it is not a Compact Camera.

First, Clairvoyant much?  There's a lot of numbers between 7 and 100

Second, LX-BIG? it's 4mm longer, 1mm shorter, and only 9mm thicker. The LX7 was never a pant-pocket camera anyway (MC Hammer pants excluded).

1) You better have really big pockets

Apparently people do, jacket pockets, or did you miss those 567,83,746,234,709,842 posts (Exaggeration intended. But I think I've read more posts on cameras being jacket pocketable then I've read posts on equivalence - and that's alot.)  Admittedly it's the trade off, do you want very high IQ on a bigger M43 sized sensor or do you want to stick with so-so 1/1.7" sensors.  I think Panasonic's market research division came back and said "bigger".

2) Where is the Flash (oh, ok, you keep the cheap add on flash in a separate pocket)

Did you miss the whining on the Sony forum when the RX100 III put in a built-in flash and took out the hotshoe.  Can't please everyone I guess.

3 ) Can we shoot pictures where cameras are not allowed, NO

So this relates to size how... are you saying you want to be a rule breaker and sneak a small camera in and photograph things you shouldn't?

4) What compact has ever been this good in low light?

  • Sony RX1
  • Sony RX1R
  • Nikon Coolpix A
  • Fuji X100
  • Fuji X100S
  • Fuji X100T
  • Ricoh GR
  • Leica X1
  • Leica X2
  • The Sony RX100 III, RX10, Pansonic FZ1000, & Canon G1X II aren't too bad either.

Please forgive me if I missed any; I was in a rush.

5) A Great Compact with Very Good Images is DEAD !

No, it just evolved.  If you must have a compact camera with small size and large apertures, the Canon G7x or Sony RX100 III will work fine.  If you want high IQ (about the same as the LX7), in an even smaller size than Canon/Sony and can forgo the need for ultra fast glass then the LF1 is still a good option.  If you can spare 9mm, carry a small bag, or just put the camera in your "jacket pocket"  the the LX100 with it's 4K Video, 11 FPS, XGA-resolution EVF, Aperture Ring, and much bigger sensor (225sq. mm vs 41.5sq. mm - that's 5.4x bigger to be exact) etc... might be good enough reason to buy/upgrade.

Thanks Pannies

Yes, thanks for giving us something to drool over.  If my 30 day return policy was still in effect, I'd be tempted to just pick this up instead of my E-M10 (and I really like my E-M10) as my walk around/hiking camera.

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OP f2toms Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: Nope, they just made it the one most desireable, high quality compacts out there now.
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Everyone is welcome to their own opinion.

Some of you seem glad the LX series is dead ?

Apparently some of you never understood how to turn on a LX camera, or definitely NEVER USED ONE.

One thing is for sure, the LX-BIG AIN'T NO COMPACT !!

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f2toms wrote:

Panasonic has just killed the LX Series of Compact Cameras. Yes, the new LX-BIG camera has great potential, but it is not a Compact Camera.

1) You better have really big pockets
2) Where is the Flash (oh, ok, you keep the cheap add on flash in a separate pocket)
3 ) Can we shoot pictures where cameras are not allowed, NO
4) What compact has ever been this good in low light?
5) A Great Compact with Very Good Images is DEAD !

Thanks Pannies

Sounds like you're lonely and doing the rounds around the Forum traps bemoaning the fact that you don't actually shoot anything. Typical of trolls with no galleries, challenges or gear lists.

Desperate for attention?

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