Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit

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Maklike Tier
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Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
1 month ago

Okay so I fully admit up front that I did this quick comparison without the same camera settings (I just turned it on and shot the shots) THIS IS NOT SCIENCE. The sales guy was happy to do it in so much as he wasn't that happy to do it, so I had to do it quick so I let the camera do it's thing.

All three shots were done at 25mm. The close up images were about 3.5m (10ft) away. All files were ORF, imported into Lightroom CC as DNG, then exported as full size jpegs with no fiddling whatsoever. The close-up 1:1 shots are actually screengrabs of the DNGs.

Can you guess which is the Panasonic-Leica 25mm f1.4, which is the Panasonic GM1's 12-32 kit zoom, and which is the Olympus 14-42 EZ?

Lens #1

Lens #2

Lens #3

Lens #1

Lens #2

Lens #3

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Re: Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
In reply to Maklike Tier, 1 month ago

1. EZ

2. 25mm 1.4

3. Pana 12-32

Would be my guesses

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Re: Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
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oneohone wrote:

1. EZ

2. 25mm 1.4

3. Pana 12-32

Would be my guesses

+1

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Re: Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
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1. EZ

2. 12-32

3. 25

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Re: Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
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oneohone wrote:

1. EZ

2. 25mm 1.4

3. Pana 12-32

Would be my guesses

+1

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Re: Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
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oneohone wrote:

1. EZ

2. 25mm 1.4

3. Pana 12-32

Would be my guesses

+1. That's in line with my impression of all three lenses. But I'm intrigued that we may get a startling revelation

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In reply to Maklike Tier, 1 month ago

#1 shows severe shake or shutter shock, #3 the same but to a lesser extent. So I could just guess #2 was made with PL25 wide open or with one of the zooms with active OIS.

I hope you didn't make your decision on basis of these images.

Peter

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eques wrote:

#1 shows severe shake or shutter shock, #3 the same but to a lesser extent. So I could just guess #2 was made with PL25 wide open or with one of the zooms with active OIS.

I hope you didn't make your decision on basis of these images.

Peter

Shutter shock huh. Sure it's not.....decentered?

There's no shutter shock in any of these photos.

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Maklike Tier wrote:

eques wrote:

#1 shows severe shake or shutter shock, #3 the same but to a lesser extent. So I could just guess #2 was made with PL25 wide open or with one of the zooms with active OIS.

I hope you didn't make your decision on basis of these images.

Peter

Shutter shock huh. Sure it's not.....decentered?

There's no shutter shock in any of these photos.

Of course, sorry to name the things not to be named.

But seriously, I believe the bad IQ of ##1 and 3 are not the fault of the lenses.

Peter.

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eques wrote:

Maklike Tier wrote:

eques wrote:

#1 shows severe shake or shutter shock, #3 the same but to a lesser extent. So I could just guess #2 was made with PL25 wide open or with one of the zooms with active OIS.

I hope you didn't make your decision on basis of these images.

Peter

Shutter shock huh. Sure it's not.....decentered?

There's no shutter shock in any of these photos.

Of course, sorry to name the things not to be named.

But seriously, I believe the bad IQ of ##1 and 3 are not the fault of the lenses.

Peter.

Well, I gave full warning that I just whipped the camera out, stuffed the lenses on and pressed the shutter button. This is not a 'critique my photo' post.

You may believe the IQ is not the fault of the lenses, but what if I told you the images that you think were 'not the fault of the lenses' were both kit zooms; and the one in the middle (#2) was the PL25?

Would that information - when combined with the knowledge of every test on the internet carried out with those three lenses - lead you to believe that kit lenses could resolve as much detail as the PL25; it's just me and my 'quick and dirty' contribution that has the issues?

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Maklike Tier wrote:

eques wrote:

Maklike Tier wrote:

eques wrote:

#1 shows severe shake or shutter shock, #3 the same but to a lesser extent. So I could just guess #2 was made with PL25 wide open or with one of the zooms with active OIS.

I hope you didn't make your decision on basis of these images.

Peter

Shutter shock huh. Sure it's not.....decentered?

There's no shutter shock in any of these photos.

Of course, sorry to name the things not to be named.

But seriously, I believe the bad IQ of ##1 and 3 are not the fault of the lenses.

Peter.

Well, I gave full warning that I just whipped the camera out, stuffed the lenses on and pressed the shutter button. This is not a 'critique my photo' post.

You may believe the IQ is not the fault of the lenses, but what if I told you the images that you think were 'not the fault of the lenses' were both kit zooms; and the one in the middle (#2) was the PL25?

Well, that was my first guess, see above.

Would that information - when combined with the knowledge of every test on the internet carried out with those three lenses - lead you to believe that kit lenses could resolve as much detail as the PL25; it's just me and my 'quick and dirty' contribution that has the issues?

I am well aware, that the kit zooms are no excellent lenses - I myself avoid them, if possible. However they are not that bad - and look at the double contours of the images #1 and also #3.

Could you provide the exif data, now that you unveiled the secret? Knowing that #2 was made with the PL25, I suspect P-Mode or iA mode selected wide open aperture and the zoom lenses didn't have OIS activated, so that exposure time was about 5,5 times as long as with the PL25.

Peter.

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In reply to Maklike Tier, 4 weeks ago

Maklike Tier wrote:

You may believe the IQ is not the fault of the lenses, but what if I told you the images that you think were 'not the fault of the lenses' were both kit zooms; and the one in the middle (#2) was the PL25?

The difference you are seeing is not the difference in sharpness between the lenses and you certainly cannot say it is because any of the lenses are 'decentered'.

What you are seeing is good old fashioned camera shake in two of the images from using too slow shutter speed and/or sloppy handholding (easy to do when acting quickly in a store).

I generally enjoy 'real life' tests rather than brick wall shots, but c'mon - you can't make ANY conclusions from these photos!

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Re: Quick and Dirty - PL25mm vs Oly 14-42 EZ vs Pana 12-32 GM1 kit
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broody wrote:

oneohone wrote:

1. EZ

2. 25mm 1.4

3. Pana 12-32

Would be my guesses

+1. That's in line with my impression of all three lenses. But I'm intrigued that we may get a startling revelation

+1

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In reply to Pikme, 4 weeks ago

Each lens has its uses.  The PL25 is sharp, but not as sharp as the 14-42EZ at 14mm, and certainly not as sharp as the 12-32 at 12mm.

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Michael M Fliegel wrote:

Each lens has its uses. The PL25 is sharp, but not as sharp as the 14-42EZ at 14mm, and certainly not as sharp as the 12-32 at 12mm.

The PL25 is completely unsharp at 12mm, I find the shots unusable too.  

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Michael M Fliegel wrote:

Each lens has its uses. The PL25 is sharp, but not as sharp as the 14-42EZ at 14mm, and certainly not as sharp as the 12-32 at 12mm.

but at 25mm it's the sharpest

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Great lens but not so sharp at 32mm.

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Re: Let's try not quick and dirty, but useful
In reply to Maklike Tier, 4 weeks ago

Certainly in good light, it will be hard to tell the difference between the lenses except blown up 200% for pixel peepers.  Maybe bokeh?  But in low light is where the PL 25mm shines.

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In reply to Landscapephoto99, 4 weeks ago

No disrespect meant for the PL25, which is a great lens!

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Michael M Fliegel wrote:

No disrespect meant for the PL25, which is a great lens!

Yes, no problem.  I have the 12-50 and the PL25.  Each has its own uses.  There is just something about the look of photos taken with the PL25 that is hard to describe, like a 3D effect...but maybe it's the Leica name getting to me

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