Explosive mix of Music and Boxing (µFT and FT photos - high ISO)

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Explosive mix of Music and Boxing (µFT and FT photos - high ISO)
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I got the opportunity to shoot two performances of "Rumble in da Jungle" (all area access).

Inspired by excerpts from a documentary about the iconic fight between Ali and Foreman in Zaire in 1974, this exciting spectacle combines live boxing (in a simulated ring), great soul and salsa music and spoken word/slam poetry performances.

The shows deals in an innovative way with the challenges of life in a multi-cultural and multi-ethnical urban jungle. Food for thought, served hot and spicy!

I took my E-5 with the inevitable ZD35-100 lens. On my E-3 (that I used sparsely), I had the ZD150 and PL25mm.

And all of the wide work was done with the E-M5 with 12-40 lens (although I shot just a few also with 17.5mm Nokton and Rokinon 85mm with adapter).

If you like to check out the results, look here: http://roelh.zenfolio.com/p360664171

The show starts with three rounds of boxing/sparring but moves on to music.

I must say that I also enjoyed getting angles on the boxing bit (a first for me), so I made a separate gallery of that too : http://roelh.zenfolio.com/p3376845

ISO values were mostly 3200 on E-M5, 1600 on E-5 and 1000-1250 on E-3, except where the lenses' speed allowed me to keep the ISO lower.  With shutter speeds mostly between 1/125 and 1/400, those were exceptions, even at F2 or faster.  As always, the conclusion is that Olympus (and FT in general) provides gear that allows to do the job, although other brands with better high ISO might be the more logical choice if this was my everyday occupation.

Some samples (but view them BIGGER in the galleries) - C&C is welcomed:

ZD35-100 on E-5

12-40 on E-M5

(a rare shot for which I dared to really drop the shutter speed)

just wide enough to capture this and still crop to square...)

ZD35-100 on E-5

I flirted with darkness here, to (just) retain and reveal the boxing setting

12-40 on E-M5

ZD35-100 on E-5

The last two (from different nights) are included to show how material from both lenses and cameras can very well be mixed together into a seamless narrative blend.

Thanks for looking.

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Really, really nice.

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Really, really nice.

Glad you liked them.

Many more in the gallery!!

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Excellent, as usual. You have an affinity (or you practice!) with this kind of shooting.

Technically, what confuses me is the EV. I'd expect a lot of negative compensation, especially with shots like the trumpeter--massive dark regions. But, your EV is light negative, or even positive. The first is over two stops positive, according to the EXIF. That doesn't make sense to me. Can you help?

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Excellent, as usual. You have an affinity (or you practice!) with this kind of shooting.

Thanks.  Both, I hope. A certain instinct, but also every opportunity I can grab.

Technically, what confuses me is the EV. I'd expect a lot of negative compensation, especially with shots like the trumpeter--massive dark regions. But, your EV is light negative, or even positive. The first is over two stops positive, according to the EXIF. That doesn't make sense to me. Can you help?

I will try, but you will find my explanation lacking, I am afraid.

That +2 EV was just an accident, I am afraid.

I have two (sometimes three) cameras hanging from my shoulders.

EV-comp is allocated to the front dial in every configuration.

My E-5 had been dangling on my hip (Op-Tech sliding strap) while I was shooting the E-M5.  I needed to get in there close in a rush so I let the E-M5 drop to my left side while grabbing the E-5 and I shot away without noticing that the front-dial had been rubbed on my hip to +2 EV.  But the energy of the shot was such that I needed to keep it.

For the rest, I do not need much EV (neither negative nor positive), because I spot-meter without exception for this kind of event.  And I focus-recompose, so the metering is on the main subject (most often lit a bit brighter than its surroundings).  This pushes the background to darkness quite nicely in most instances.  In LR, I make the final adjustments with an EV comp between -1 and +1 and then local adjustments (shadows, highlights).  I want my backgrounds clean, without the usual clutter of cables, microphone stands, etc.

Hope this helps.

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Well, I think that's a pretty good explanation.

  • spot metering -- that occurred to me, but then forgot to take it seriously
  • accidental EVC adjustment -- occurs to me, mostly when I forget to neutralize (as I guess your +2 EVC)
  • pressure of timing (shoot first, adjust for the second try)
  • manage EV (some) in post

Totally comprehensible...after the fact. Thanks much. Admirable work.

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boxerman wrote:

Well, I think that's a pretty good explanation.

  • spot metering -- that occurred to me, but then forgot to take it seriously
  • accidental EVC adjustment -- occurs to me, mostly when I forget to neutralize (as I guess your +2 EVC)
  • pressure of timing (shoot first, adjust for the second try)
  • manage EV (some) in post

Totally comprehensible...after the fact. Thanks much. Admirable work.

I think I have made all the errors one can possibly make in photography.  Numerous times.

The point is to not let that get in the way of advancing.

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Yes, I recognize the mistakes, because after reading the manual (E-M10) over and over again and practice all settings in camera too so many times I thought I could play the piano blind ...but was quite disappointed in practice like a lot went wrong and still be less but still!

However you show a nice compilation of images, the first is astaounding and five, seven and eight a pleasant fine series of forms, but the former can be directly stuck on a bilboard attention as a trigger for the match.

Lou

RoelHendrickx wrote:

I got the opportunity to shoot two performances of "Rumble in da Jungle" (all area access).

Inspired by excerpts from a documentary about the iconic fight between Ali and Foreman in Zaire in 1974, this exciting spectacle combines live boxing (in a simulated ring), great soul and salsa music and spoken word/slam poetry performances.

The shows deals in an innovative way with the challenges of life in a multi-cultural and multi-ethnical urban jungle. Food for thought, served hot and spicy!

I took my E-5 with the inevitable ZD35-100 lens. On my E-3 (that I used sparsely), I had the ZD150 and PL25mm.

And all of the wide work was done with the E-M5 with 12-40 lens (although I shot just a few also with 17.5mm Nokton and Rokinon 85mm with adapter).

If you like to check out the results, look here: http://roelh.zenfolio.com/p360664171

The show starts with three rounds of boxing/sparring but moves on to music.

I must say that I also enjoyed getting angles on the boxing bit (a first for me), so I made a separate gallery of that too : http://roelh.zenfolio.com/p3376845

ISO values were mostly 3200 on E-M5, 1600 on E-5 and 1000-1250 on E-3, except where the lenses' speed allowed me to keep the ISO lower. With shutter speeds mostly between 1/125 and 1/400, those were exceptions, even at F2 or faster. As always, the conclusion is that Olympus (and FT in general) provides gear that allows to do the job, although other brands with better high ISO might be the more logical choice if this was my everyday occupation.

Some samples (but view them BIGGER in the galleries) - C&C is welcomed:

ZD35-100 on E-5

ZD35-100 on E-5

12-40 on E-M5

ZD35-100 on E-5

The last two (from different nights) are included to show how material from both lenses and cameras can very well be mixed together into a seamless narrative blend.

Thanks for looking.

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RoelHendrickx wrote:

I got the opportunity to shoot two performances of "Rumble in da Jungle" (all area access).

Inspired by excerpts from a documentary about the iconic fight between Ali and Foreman in Zaire in 1974, this exciting spectacle combines live boxing (in a simulated ring), great soul and salsa music and spoken word/slam poetry performances.

The shows deals in an innovative way with the challenges of life in a multi-cultural and multi-ethnical urban jungle. Food for thought, served hot and spicy!

I took my E-5 with the inevitable ZD35-100 lens. On my E-3 (that I used sparsely), I had the ZD150 and PL25mm.

And all of the wide work was done with the E-M5 with 12-40 lens (although I shot just a few also with 17.5mm Nokton and Rokinon 85mm with adapter).

If you like to check out the results, look here: http://roelh.zenfolio.com/p360664171

The show starts with three rounds of boxing/sparring but moves on to music.

I must say that I also enjoyed getting angles on the boxing bit (a first for me), so I made a separate gallery of that too : http://roelh.zenfolio.com/p3376845

ISO values were mostly 3200 on E-M5, 1600 on E-5 and 1000-1250 on E-3, except where the lenses' speed allowed me to keep the ISO lower. With shutter speeds mostly between 1/125 and 1/400, those were exceptions, even at F2 or faster. As always, the conclusion is that Olympus (and FT in general) provides gear that allows to do the job, although other brands with better high ISO might be the more logical choice if this was my everyday occupation.

Some samples (but view them BIGGER in the galleries) - C&C is welcomed:

ZD35-100 on E-5

12-40 on E-M5

(a rare shot for which I dared to really drop the shutter speed)

just wide enough to capture this and still crop to square...)

ZD35-100 on E-5

I flirted with darkness here, to (just) retain and reveal the boxing setting

12-40 on E-M5

ZD35-100 on E-5

The last two (from different nights) are included to show how material from both lenses and cameras can very well be mixed together into a seamless narrative blend.

Thanks for looking.

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LouHolland wrote:

Yes, I recognize the mistakes, because after reading the manual (E-M10) over and over again and practice all settings in camera too so many times I thought I could play the piano blind ...but was quite disappointed in practice like a lot went wrong and still be less but still!

It's not only that you make decisions that turn out badly.

Sometimes, with a new camera, it is not even obvious that other decisions are possible.

And with an old camera that you know inside out (like I my E-5), there can still be some accidents from sheer forgetfulness (not changing back to default from a particular setting) or just because of camera-environment interaction.  I've had it often that my focus point was moved inadvertently or I had use the SCP and then accidentally reactivated and changed metering or focus mode or ISO or whatever.

However you show a nice compilation of images, the first is astaounding and five, seven and eight a pleasant fine series of forms, but the former can be directly stuck on a bilboard attention as a trigger for the match.

Thanks Lou.

If you are into the boxing bit, there are many more in that separate gallery.

Lou

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Fantastic pictures! I really don't like boxing or other kinds of martial arts but I must admit that this kind of event with a mix of poetry slam and music and body art/brutal dancing if I may call it that has a certain appeal. Anyway, where did this happen?

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MatsP wrote:

Fantastic pictures! I really don't like boxing or other kinds of martial arts but I must admit that this kind of event with a mix of poetry slam and music and body art/brutal dancing if I may call it that has a certain appeal.

I'm not much of a martial arts fan either, but I enjoy a new photographic challenge.

That is why I photographed aikido recently, and now this. The concert part was not really new for me, but the boxing was.

Gets my adrenalin flowing (not for the violence but for the prospect of doing something new and hoping it will work and fearing it will not...)

Going in, I imagined myself stopping motion on sweat being propelled off bodies and faces. That would have required a fast flash, but I did get close enough.

Anyway : it was not only the martial arts thing, but like you said, the whole mix, that was interesting:

* great music by a large orchestra that mastered soul just as well as salsa or afro ska

* intense moments of spoken word testimony in which one could hear a pin drop

* projections of Muhammad Ali but also of other iconic figures and events of the era.

Anyway, where did this happen?

This was in Antwerp. Part of the "Summer of Antwerp" festival, in which some of the best performances of the past year (theater, circus, you name it) are presented in original locations. And it is not yet over. If you are near Antwerp : last three shows are today, tomorrow and Sunday.  Look here for info :

http://www.zva.be/theaterenzo/detail/rumble-in-da-jungle

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MatsP wrote:

Fantastic pictures! I really don't like boxing or other kinds of martial arts but I must admit that this kind of event with a mix of poetry slam and music and body art/brutal dancing if I may call it that has a certain appeal.

I'm not much of a martial arts fan either, but I enjoy a new photographic challenge.

That is why I photographed aikido recently, and now this. The concert part was not really new for me, but the boxing was.

Gets my adrenalin flowing (not for the violence but for the prospect of doing something new and hoping it will work and fearing it will not...)

Going in, I imagined myself stopping motion on sweat being propelled off bodies and faces. That would have required a fast flash, but I did get close enough.

Anyway : it was not only the martial arts thing, but like you said, the whole mix, that was interesting:

* great music by a large orchestra that mastered soul just as well as salsa or afro ska

* intense moments of spoken word testimony in which one could hear a pin drop

* projections of Muhammad Ali but also of other iconic figures and events of the era.

Anyway, where did this happen?

This was in Antwerp. Part of the "Summer of Antwerp" festival, in which some of the best performances of the past year (theater, circus, you name it) are presented in original locations. And it is not yet over. If you are near Antwerp : last three shows are today, tomorrow and Sunday.  Look here for info :

http://www.zva.be/theaterenzo/detail/rumble-in-da-jungle

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Sounds fantastic to visit, but I'm a little to far away here in Stockholm I'm afraid. Today is hot, around 30 degrees. The yearly summer music and culture festival here starts later,in August.

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Anyway, where did this happen?

This was in Antwerp. Part of the "Summer of Antwerp" festival, in which some of the best performances of the past year (theater, circus, you name it) are presented in original locations. And it is not yet over. If you are near Antwerp : last three shows are today, tomorrow and Sunday. Look here for info :

http://www.zva.be/theaterenzo/detail/rumble-in-da-jungle

Sounds fantastic to visit, but I'm a little to far away here in Stockholm I'm afraid. Today is hot, around 30 degrees. The yearly summer music and culture festival here starts later,in August.

Hot here too.

Just sought some cool in the Antwerp FotoMuseum : great shows on display.

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Very good series of photos.

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Very good series of photos.

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My photos are now being used by the Ensemble that performs "Rumble in da Jungle", in order to promote their future performances.  Cool!

Look here: http://www.ccsint-niklaas.be/voorstelling/5633/rumble-in-da-jungle

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