Nikon D810 initial thoughts

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Nikon D810 initial thoughts
Jul 17, 2014

I've lurked here for quite awhile and thought I'd finally contribute something - even if it's just a few quick thoughts. I've had my D810 bodies for a day now and am fortunate enough to have some Merlins ( falcons) living in our backyard trees. After a few days of shooting with my D800e, I was able to shoot with the D810 today. A few random thoughts:

1. incredibly quiet compared to the D800 series and that extra frame a second seems to make a lot of difference!

2. Autofocus is a HUGE improvement. I've owned 3 D800's and 3 D800e's over the last two years, and although they were my favourite cameras, the AF was good but not great. With the D810, I get faster and more accurate initial acquisition, much better focus tracking and overall better sharpness. My keep rate is much, much better with the D810. Also, I expected the Group AF to be a boon and it has been, but I didn't expect that all the other AF settings would be better as well. I used a lot of Continuous AF with 9 box dynamic and it was much, much more accurate than with the D800e. I was using the 80-400 AFS for these and there was much less of that AF chatter when it doesn't quite know what to settle on.

3. I've not shot scenics yet, but trying to manual focus with the live view in a dark room was very easy - especially compared to the D800 series. The D810's screen was noisy, but easily sharp enough to focus.

4. I can't speak to high ISO noise yet as I usually use Lightroom and am forced to use the new Nikon Capture NX-D with the D810 files. I feel that Capture might be cooking the files a bit, but I believe we'll see an improvement in high ISO. I shot a merlin in low light this morning at 6400 iso and a large crop that seemed usable (more than usable actually) and it would not have been with the D800e in that light. Time will tell, but it seems better there.

Anyway, just a few initial thoughts from about 1000 shots after two years of D800/e shooting. I've attached a couple files - sorry for the crappy post processing, I basically just opened them in Nikon Capture and I had the picture control set on neutral with no sharpening.

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about time to see some BIF shots from the D810 ...
In reply to GlenGrambo, Jul 17, 2014

something that actually tests the AF a bit.  Nice to see you posting and about time.

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Thanks!

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harveysteeves wrote:

something that actually tests the AF a bit. Nice to see you posting and about time.

Speaking of posting, Harvey, I wanna see some shots of cows and tractors

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In reply to GlenGrambo, Jul 17, 2014

Hmmmm not a great advert I'm afraid, the obsolete D3s is still ok:-

http://www.wildphotolife.co.uk/2014/images/Lady%20coming%20in%20270514.jpg

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sorry Jack, ...
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but with cows, its a personal thing.   Comes with being a farm boy.

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Certainly soft but what lense you using if its the 300 2.8 you wanna get a refund

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maybe there has been no post ...
In reply to londonshooter, Jul 17, 2014

since its an OOC shot from somebody who uses LR to process.  But I'm sure you can show us better from a D810.

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GlenGrambo wrote:

1. incredibly quiet compared to the D800 series and that extra frame a second seems to make a lot of difference!

In the few moments I've owned my D810, this is what has most stood out for me - not only is it quieter, it's also much better damped. I can barely feel the shot being taken.

Another thing that somewhat surprised me: I examined the EXIF info for the very first shot I took, and saw that ImageNumber is 1! Didn't many Df folks report that they were seeing ImageNumbers well over 200 for their first shot? Not a big deal, I guess. -iwbs

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harveysteeves wrote:

but with cows, its a personal thing.

Comes with being a farm boy.

I can understand that, Harvey, and shan't delve any deeper, so to speak

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londonshooter wrote:

Certainly soft but what lense you using if its the 300 2.8 you wanna get a refund

Can you people read. OP said no sharpening was applied. It looks good to me.

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Tim S wrote:

Hmmmm not a great advert I'm afraid, the obsolete D3s is still ok:-

http://www.wildphotolife.co.uk/2014/images/Lady%20coming%20in%20270514.jpg

Not a great advert for the preciousness of D3S owners.  Why are you afraid?

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In reply to GlenGrambo, Jul 17, 2014

With all the excitement of a new camera and the initial impressions will come the "sorry, I'm not buying it" trolls.

I wish they would go away.

Thank you for taking the time to give your impression and posting some images.

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amobi wrote:

londonshooter wrote:

Certainly soft but what lense you using if its the 300 2.8 you wanna get a refund

Can you people read. OP said no sharpening was applied. It looks good to me.

These images do not look all that impressive to me.  I assume it is a result of user error.

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It is good to see a few initial pics
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It is good to see a few initial pics, a great start, I enjoyed them and it is good you are enjoying the D810

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Tight crop, 6500 ISO, no post & the haters are in full force, just amazing....

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harveysteeves wrote:

since its an OOC shot from somebody who uses LR to process. But I'm sure you can show us better from a D810.

Hi Harvey,

Maybe, in London, they focus on the tail feathers rather than on the eyes

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iwannabesedated wrote:

GlenGrambo wrote:

1. incredibly quiet compared to the D800 series and that extra frame a second seems to make a lot of difference!

In the few moments I've owned my D810, this is what has most stood out for me - not only is it quieter, it's also much better damped. I can barely feel the shot being taken.

Same here.

Another thing that somewhat surprised me: I examined the EXIF info for the very first shot I took, and saw that ImageNumber is 1! Didn't many Df folks report that they were seeing ImageNumbers well over 200 for their first shot? Not a big deal, I guess. -iwbs

Mine was image number 1 as well!

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Have we really got enough information to make any true judgement on this DSLR?
In reply to mrjpack, Jul 17, 2014

mrjpack,

To be honest all of the images I have seen posted here of the D810 have not been under good conditions. There were some nice picks taken in Australia by a photographer using a 300 2.8 vrII shot at 6400 to 12,800 ISO and a 1.4 and 2.0 TC. They looked good but was high ISO just the same. Then these and neither were using Adobe's RAW converter for the D810.

To me there is not enough info here to make a real point for the IQ improving one way or another. To be honest I haven't seen a video yet that compares the D800/D800e vs the D810 and the D810 being a lot sharper. Most have posted it is or might be but by a little bit.

My thought is if the AF is a good deal better, the shutter is quieter and reduces the amount of vibration for the earlier models, and so far all reports coming it they are improved. Then if there is solid improvement in higher ISO and then add the lower ISO choice. With the brighter view finder, the better live view zoom, the extra FPS. Then IMO this is a solid update that will make a very good DSLR even better.

I can't wait to get mine tomorrow from B&H, glad I had it set up with over night delivery. Then I will put it through several test this weekend. Maybe the White Mountains in NH or even the Green Mountains in Vermont.

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mrjpack wrote:

Tight crop, 6500 ISO, no post & the haters are in full force, just amazing....

Jim

The image viewer here says ISO 2200.

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