Who would buy a waterproof M4/3?

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Potemkin_Photo
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Who would buy a waterproof M4/3?
4 months ago

How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

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How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

Do you mean a waterproof P&S camera? I've never heard anything about a waterproof interchangeable lens digital camera, I'll be really surprised to see this happens!!

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I've never heard anything about a waterproof interchangeable lens digital camera, I'll be really surprised to see this happens!!

Nikon has the AW1 interchangeable lens camera.  It is generally well received by it's target audience.

It would involve a cost premium that I personally am not willing to pay, especially as the lenses must also be built to a higher standard.

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Potemkin_Photo wrote:

How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

It's such a small niche that it probably wouldn't do very well, especially when housing systems for existing cameras arguably do the job more flexibly and just as expensively. In the 35mm days this niche was only occupied by the Nikonos, and currently only occupied by the Nikon AW1 (which is more suited to snorkeling than to diving) with two specified waterproof lenses.

Olympus has been a leader in underwater compacts, though. The TG-2 and TG-3 are particularly well regarded. The TG-850 has the widest lens of any compact digital camera currently on the market, at 21mm equivalent (Samsung achieved the same with their WB-210 in 2011, but it has to go into a wide angle "mode" so it's not quite the same thing).

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How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I would!

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

I'm not. It's a pretty niche thing and people serious about underwater photography, not me, are most likely scuba diving and buying housings for "real" cameras.

I'm considering a Nikon AW1 to replace an Olympus TG1, which I've been mostly pleased with. The image quality is quite good for a P&S. A larger sensor and ability to shoot RAW are the biggest draws of the AW1 for me.

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As stated in other threads a fixed lens 12-50 internal zoom (with same macro capabilities, probably with a bit more refined optics) E-PL5 plus 64 GB built-in memory and wireless charging / corrosion-resistant external port would be fine by me. Like this you would not have to deal with any doors and lens seals. This would still be more compact than the XZ-2 & PT-054 combo I bought for this summer.

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If I needed it, I'd just buy waterproof housing.  A waterproof camera would likely be too expensive for all but a small niche of people.

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I would want it to have a built-in flash and generally match my Panny FT4 for features, although the zoom would not need to be so long. Given the change to field of view caused by the different diffracion and the limited distances you can satisfactorily penetrate in most water (even here in paradise) I would be happy with a 2x or so zoom starting at 12mm. 6 meters depth would be okay.

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Okay, maybe $1000.

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Given the specs. the price is pretty keen for the two lens kit…
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jeffharris wrote:

Potemkin_Photo wrote:

How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I would!

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

I'm not. It's a pretty niche thing and people serious about underwater photography, not me, are most likely scuba diving and buying housings for "real" cameras.

I'm considering a Nikon AW1 to replace an Olympus TG1, which I've been mostly pleased with. The image quality is quite good for a P&S. A larger sensor and ability to shoot RAW are the biggest draws of the AW1 for me.

…at around $1000. interesting.

Cheers, geoff

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The problem with the AW are the lacklustre lenses, otherwise I would have bought it by now. No reach, no macro. Macro is really the strong suit of the TG series.

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I'm happy with TAP-proof and sharp IQ ...
Using the EM-1 to shoot while it is under a running tap.

I've taken All my "splash proof" Olympus cameras in the surf - no problems - ever.
If I were to dive, I'd get a housing for one of my decent cameras.
Nikon 1? ... good P&S quality, ILC price.  Not that they CAN'T make a good mirrorless, but like Canon they refuse to.

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How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.
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Probably .
Got a TG- Tough ( good down to 50 ft)   but it doesn't do RAW; aside from that pretty good .

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If I'm going in the water, I just use a GoPro. It's not worth the stress of bringing any "real" camera to the beach where there is sand and such. I also don't want to leave any Micro 4/3 camera on my towel, or carry it ALWAYS while I'm swimming.

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Apreche wrote:

It's not worth the stress of bringing any "real" camera to the beach where there is sand and such.

That is a bit single-minded. I developed a taste for taking underwater images during the last few years, and now I always bring a camera when snorkeling. Until the release of the TG series I was not too fond of the unreliable autofocus of the tough cameras in general.

I agree though that anything larger might present a hassle, if you are not truly diving.

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The Nikon AW1 does seem a bit overpriced for what it can do.

A modern day Nikonos would be great. Or I guess I can just get an old Nikonos off the bay and pay a few bucks for film.

Then there's just get a heavy duty ziplock back, partially inflating it, and using that to proof your camera.

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As stated in other threads a fixed lens 12-50 internal zoom (with same macro capabilities, probably with a bit more refined optics) E-PL5 plus 64 GB built-in memory and wireless charging / corrosion-resistant external port would be fine by me. Like this you would not have to deal with any doors and lens seals. This would still be more compact than the XZ-2 & PT-054 combo I bought for this summer.

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I love this idea. Let's tell Olympus to make it.

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Potemkin_Photo wrote:

How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

I would.

I still have the old film version of the Nikon AW1 - the AW or Action Touch.

I could take that camera anywhere. It is not just about going underwater at the beach, there are many other situations where one needs a completely sealed body and lens.

The current waterproof cameras, AW1 excepted, are just too low in image quality.

The current issue of Photo News has an article by Canadian photographer Michelle Valberg using the AW1 for underwater video when she was photographing whales.

http://www.photonews.ca/index.php/swimming-with-whales/

A fixed-lens/zoom 4/3 sized sensor body would also do the job.

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I would love to see a waterproof M43 camera.  Kind of like the Nikon AW camera base on the Series 1.

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The problem with the AW are the lacklustre lenses, otherwise I would have bought it by now. No reach, no macro. Macro is really the strong suit of the TG series.

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Same here.  I handled one a few times at the camera store.  I didn't like the user interface, the lack of a hot-shoe and the slow kit lens.  So I didn't buy it.  Still a very neat idea.

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Potemkin_Photo wrote:

How many of you would buy a waterproof micro 4/3 camera?

I'm surprised that one hasn't come out yet.

I might... If and only if it is suited for diving... it should be waterproof to 50 to 60 meters. The Nikon AW1 is a nice concept, but you can't take it on a real dive.

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