* Wed C&C No Theme Thread #320 14 06 11 *

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* Wed C&C No Theme Thread #320 14 06 11 *
2 months ago

Welcome to the Wednesday Comments and Critique (No Theme) thread!

We are continuing the great tradition of this C&C thread because we are convinced that looking at and talking about images is vital for better photography.

The idea is simple: you post an image and get critique on it, and in return give other people your opinion of their images, or vice versa.

Generally, you should post only one single image for C&C. As an exception, you may post two pictures resulting from one shutter release but with different treatment (for example a color and a black & white version, or a different crop) for us to choose from and comment on.

TWO RULES:

1.If you post an image, you should critique at least one other image.

2.Keep your comments honest but polite. If you don’t care for an image try to explain why. This is neither a “Good shot!” nor an image-bashing thread.

Any style, any camera. It is a peer-to-peer photography workshop!

Feedback is guaranteed (for up to 48 h after the thread has started)! Though keep in mind that the thread tends to be busiest during the first 24 hours or so, so later image posts may get little feedback.

HOW TO PLAY:

1.Turn on "Threaded view" and reply to this post with a web-sized image. Change the title so we can sort different images out easily!

2.Get back to this thread in a minute, an hour or a day or so, and…

3.…still in threaded view, look at one or more pictures of your choice, click reply and critique it.

4.Remember to add the EXIF if your image doesn't embed it as this may help

5.Image posters: please consider telling us what your own opinion on your image is. What prompted you to click that shutter button? What did you see? Why do you like the result? You don't have to explain, but it might be interesting.

6.You are very welcome to post a group reply to the feedback you have received. This could include a new version of your image modified in response to the comments.

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WELCOME! AND BE SURE TO READ THIS:

•The critique you give (point 3 from the above list) is vital. What was your first impression? What catches your eye about an image? Why? What do you like, and what distracts you? What would you change?

•Fiddle with the image in your head - composition, perspective, color balance, exposure.

  • It is understood that unless the original poster specifically states that they do not want an altered image posted that you are free to alter the posted image and repost it in a reply for C&C purposes. That reposted image may remain permanently or you may remove it after a short period of time if you prefer.

•More general feedback is also welcome. Do you know something about taking the same sort of image that would make matters easier - share your own as an example in your reply. Encourage - it is a scary business putting your work up for other people to judge!

•Finally what is the verdict? Waste-bin? Snapshot? Could be better? Family Album? Frame on wall? Poster-size frame on wall? Billboard? Reuters? World Press Photo? National Geographic? Museum? (pick your own superlative here)

One of the first replies is “The Related Post”. This is the place to post your general musings about the C&C Thread.

Another of the first replies includes a link to all previous threads. This is called "Archives".

Andrew (19andrew47)

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In reply to 19andrew47, 2 months ago

Here is the list of all previous editions of our weekly thread.

All Threads from 2014

Week 319 14 06 04 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53791694

Week 318 14 05 28 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53752002

Week 317 14 05 21 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53711366

Week 316 14 05 14 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53672070

Week 315 14 05 07 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/.53629981

Week 314 14 04 30 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53586903 (incorrectly numbered 313)

Week 313 14 04 23 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53544914

Week 312 14 04 16 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53505335

Week 311 14 04 09 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53464446

Week 310 14 04 02 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53422560

Week 309 14 03 26 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53380285

Week 308 14 03 19 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53336652

Week 307 14 03 12 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53291173

Week 306 14 03 05 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53244969

Week 305 14 02 26 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53195160

Week 304 14 02 19 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53148085

Week 303 14 02 12 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53097949

Week 302 14 02 05 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53049187

Week 301 14 01 29 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53004183

Week 300 14 01 22 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52955902

Week 299 14 01 15 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52911432

Week 298 14 01 08 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52861838

Week 297 14 01 01 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52814240

All Previous Threads

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In reply to 19andrew47, 2 months ago

This is a placeholder for anything related to the C&C threads. And we do mean anything: feel free to start a discussion about the threads, or how you felt when your image was trashed by some mean know-it-all (probably not in this thread, though), or how it feels trying to say something polite about a cr @ ppy image posted for review (tough one).

This is also the place to make arrangements and share ideas for keeping this thread alive and kicking.

The C&C participants will be more than happy to consider all input.

Andrew

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Partial Skyline: Miami
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Taken from the upper deck of a cruise ship coming into port. Highly 'stylized', not quite monotone.

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Re: Partial Skyline: Miami
In reply to 19andrew47, 2 months ago

Hi mate like this one I would be tempted to trim a little sky, and make a nice print of it for the wall.

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Alice...
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Hi everyone as promised following last weeks.

Look to the large view to reveal all.

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Re: Alice...
In reply to stephent, 2 months ago

I like this one much better than last weeks. In fact, I should just say I like this one very much and leave it at that. A nice effect with a vortex look to suck you in. I am assuming this one was rotated maybe 120 degrees or so.

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I'm subjecting you to another photo from Lucca Italy.

This church was across the valley from the house where we were staying near Lucca. Our landlord's wife is buried in that cemetery.

E-M1 + 50-200 SWD at 200mm handheld

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E-330; ZD 11-22.

Folly Cove (E-330; ZD 11-22)

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Re: Partial Skyline: Miami
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This high-key treatment works well. It's got some nice detail in it and the boat stands out in the building shadow.  I like the composition.

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In reply to Scott Whittemore, 2 months ago

I like this one a lot Scott.  Nice foreground details and I like the way the distant part of the 'scape' seems to fade away.  A lovely scene and the monotone treatment suits it well.

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Re: Church on the hill
In reply to MikePDX, 2 months ago

A well composed image Mike.  For me, it looks a little over exposed so I would rework it some what to bring out the details in the building more and add some more interest to the image.  In the rework below I did not change the clarity since you have stated you are not a fan of that.  The image may or may not need it but at this small size increasing the clarity somewhat makes it look a little more detailed.  Full size it may not be needed.

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On the local community college campus adjacent to the smokers' lean-to.

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Re: Church on the hill another version per Andrew
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Here is a version close to what Andrew did. -40 on the highlights. It already had +25 clarity. This shot was taken in strong very late afternoon sun, so the church did seem to glow a bit. Although the first version had no blown highlights, I agree with Andrew that this one looks a bit better.

Andrew, I think I will explore the clarity slider some more. I found myself using about +50 with my E-30, but backed down to around +25 with both the E-M5 and the E-M1. I haven't done any printing with the E-M1 yet, so I will look at the differences on a test print when I get the chance.

With the highlights toned down in LR (-40, I think)

And here is a larger view (three shot pano) just for context:

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Original Image (sort of)

Reconstructed image to my "style"

This is a technique I developed with a fair bit of editing work.

The idea is as a pencil drawing style but it is not "an effect".

Obviously the original image is much manipulated and the pesky cars and street signage removed.

"Stan Pollard & Co" was a reconstruction from a bygone era.

Charters Towers is a remote town in North Queensland - once the second city of Queensland in the gold-getting heyday and has other notable buildings of the era such as the Opera House and the Stock Exchange.

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Certainly a very effective treatment of the impact of the tower shapes.  My only real criticism is that whilst the reflections stop naturally when there is no more buildings to reflect on the left I still think it needs something more than the relative blank space.  Not sure what but the foreground seems only partially there.  Might I suggest that an alternative would be to remove everything to the right foreground except some sort of allusion to the reflections of the buildings? (as a form of balance).

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Re: Church on the hill
In reply to MikePDX, 2 months ago

Hi mate I like the framing the light on the front of  church is a little harsh. The edits that have already been done improve this.

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In reply to Scott Whittemore, 2 months ago

Hi mate I too like the way the horizon disappears, the light looks a little flat? but I wonder what the coloured version looks like.

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Hi mate I do like your eye for detail, I like the strip of green running through the centre leading you to the greenery along the top. The post and water hydrant are well balanced on either side of the frame.

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Hi mate that's a lot of work but well worth it, looks original.

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