Aperture 3.5 not compatible with Yosemite

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Filippo Ventura
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Aperture 3.5 not compatible with Yosemite
3 months ago

Hi.

Just one more information about speculation on the future of Aperture.

The latest version, 3.5, can't run on MacOS X 10.10 Yosemite.

I found it out while testing the new OS on a USB drive where I had, last fall, installed OS X Mavericks before making the final installation on my internal drive. So I had all my software installed on that disk and upgrading to Yosemite I couldn't run Aperture anymore. The icon itself is greyed out and launching it a message popup saying: "You can't use this version of the application "Aperture" with this version of OS X".

So now we have three scenario:

1) A minor update to make it compatible

2) A new major release

3) Aperture is dead

Ww will know in next months.

Bye,

Filippo

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Filippo Ventura wrote:

Hi.

Just one more information about speculation on the future of Aperture.

The latest version, 3.5, can't run on MacOS X 10.10 Yosemite.

I found it out while testing the new OS on a USB drive where I had, last fall, installed OS X Mavericks before making the final installation on my internal drive. So I had all my software installed on that disk and upgrading to Yosemite I couldn't run Aperture anymore. The icon itself is greyed out and launching it a message popup saying: "You can't use this version of the application "Aperture" with this version of OS X"

This means nothing ! Yosemite has not been released yet ! No software will be compatible before release !

So now we have three scenario:

1) A minor update to make it compatible

2) A new major release

3) Aperture is dead

Ww will know in next months.

Bye,

Filippo

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Dave Braun wrote:

This means nothing ! Yosemite has not been released yet ! No software will be compatible before release !

True.

But many softwares run anyway, Aperture and some others don't.

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Filippo Ventura wrote:

So now we have three scenario:

1) A minor update to make it compatible

2) A new major release

3) Aperture is dead

Or 4) Apple will buy Adobe out of its petty cash drawer, and will resolve the 'LR v. Aperture' squabbles overnight.

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Filippo Ventura wrote:

Hi.

Just one more information about speculation on the future of Aperture.

The latest version, 3.5, can't run on MacOS X 10.10 Yosemite.

I found it out while testing the new OS on a USB drive where I had, last fall, installed OS X Mavericks before making the final installation on my internal drive. So I had all my software installed on that disk and upgrading to Yosemite I couldn't run Aperture anymore. The icon itself is greyed out and launching it a message popup saying: "You can't use this version of the application "Aperture" with this version of OS X".

So now we have three scenario:

1) A minor update to make it compatible

2) A new major release

3) Aperture is dead

Ww will know in next months.

Bye,

Filippo

Im going with 1, although they would really need to overhaul the UI to make it look nice with Yosemite.  Interesting to see what they do.

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Dave Braun wrote:

Filippo Ventura wrote:

Hi.

Just one more information about speculation on the future of Aperture.

The latest version, 3.5, can't run on MacOS X 10.10 Yosemite.

I found it out while testing the new OS on a USB drive where I had, last fall, installed OS X Mavericks before making the final installation on my internal drive. So I had all my software installed on that disk and upgrading to Yosemite I couldn't run Aperture anymore. The icon itself is greyed out and launching it a message popup saying: "You can't use this version of the application "Aperture" with this version of OS X"

This means nothing ! Yosemite has not been released yet ! No software will be compatible before release !

So now we have three scenario:

1) A minor update to make it compatible

2) A new major release

3) Aperture is dead

Ww will know in next months.

Bye,

Filippo

The purpose of a beta is to allow all developers to check compatibility with their software.  That is exactly what it is for.  However Apple probably just has some work to do on Aperture.

I see no reason why Apple wouldn't want to allow Aperture to work, unless they already know they are going to need to update it for compatibility.

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Anybody use Aperture?

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Anybody use Aperture?

Walter

With Yosemite or with current OSX variants?

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I was thinking any variant... I tried it and was underwhelmed....just curious how many use it and like it.

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I was thinking any variant... I tried it and was underwhelmed....just curious how many use it and like it.

Walter

I use it and find it superior to LR in most respects (not all).  I believe you need to use it more than try it to appreciate it.  I myself have been using LR and Aperture in parallel for about a year and have been "underwhelmed" consistently by LR.  I actually WANT to like LR more, it's just not happening.

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Walter wrote:

I was thinking any variant... I tried it and was underwhelmed....just curious how many use it and like it.

Walter

Oh I have used it a bunch.  I actually love it for a few things:

1.  Actually quicker to post process images, because browsing and editing is done seamlessly in the same window.  No swapping between Library and develop mode.

2.  You can brush every adjustment into the image.

3.  filters and finding images that have metadata is just easier and quicker.  I understand LR quick collections and the metadata filter bar at the top, but Aperture just does it better.

4.  Better sharing/integration options if you use other Apple devices.

If I had some assurance from Apple they were committed to continual development and not just life support I would use Aperture exclusively.  However it seems to have been all but abandoned.

At this point I have been on LR for the past 8 months and won't change back unless Apple commits.  LR is just fine, and I know Adobe will continue to improve it.

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Filippo Ventura wrote:

Hi.

Just one more information about speculation on the future of Aperture.

The latest version, 3.5, can't run on MacOS X 10.10 Yosemite.

Runs fine under OS X 10.10 beta on my Retina MacBook Pro.

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It seems to work ok, but when trying to view newly imported images, it will become distorted or corrupted after loading or sometimes even after a couple of seconds. This is only in appearance, the file is ok if you view it elsewhere. Read somewhere else that it happens when editing or using plugins. Tried repairing and rebuilding database without luck.

In case you are wondering, iMovie and Final Cut Pro and Photo Booth are not available for you to run, yet, but there's a workaround which seems to work fine. All and all, I think this is just all a consequence of being such an early release and will these issues will most likely get fixed as weeks go by.

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Brewse wrote:

Filippo Ventura wrote:

Hi.

Just one more information about speculation on the future of Aperture.

The latest version, 3.5, can't run on MacOS X 10.10 Yosemite.

Runs fine under OS X 10.10 beta on my Retina MacBook Pro.

Yep, after reinstall it runs even on may old Mac Book late 2008.

It didn't run after upgrade to Yosemite but, after downloading and installing it through App Sore, it works. I didn't test how it works, but at least it launches.

bye,

Filippo

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It depends on your needs, but as an asset manager I find Aperture is harder to use than LR, and I have both. I really wanted to continue using Aperture, but as I got more photos and had to do more management of them (I reference them, BTW) I found myself ignoring Aperture more and more. LR works with your existing folder structure much more easily IMHO. I move photos off my SSD frequently now, and just dragging the folder in LR works fine. With Aperture I have to open a file dialog to "move masters," which is just that little bit annoying such that I stop doing that and started using LR instead. And the structure is just what the folder structure is in the Finder; I don't really see why Apple went with the whole project/album/folder thing; I just don't find it as intuitive as LR.

I liked the search function in Aperture, but I've come to appreciate the interface LR uses. Maybe it's because I have a bigger monitor now; Aperture seems more into floating boxes, which worked when I used a laptop more. Now not so much. And I prefer how LR lets me keyword, since I think it handles hierarchy better.

I think that the changes that will come in Yosemite will be in two main areas, organization of photos over all Apple devices and iCloud (Photostream was NOT that solution), and image editing. People here tend to organize photos far more efficiently than the average Apple user, who is randomly taking shots with iPhones, iPads and cameras constantly, and who is also receiving photos and videos constantly. None of which are "projects" or "shoots" or organized in any way shape or form. I think Apple's goal will be to get that under control, which has got to be something much harder than what LR or Aperture currently does. Both these applications assume someone who already has photos organized much more rationally.

Rob

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Walter wrote:

I was thinking any variant... I tried it and was underwhelmed....just curious how many use it and like it.

Walter

Oh I have used it a bunch. I actually love it for a few things:

1. Actually quicker to post process images, because browsing and editing is done seamlessly in the same window. No swapping between Library and develop mode.

2. You can brush every adjustment into the image.

3. filters and finding images that have metadata is just easier and quicker. I understand LR quick collections and the metadata filter bar at the top, but Aperture just does it better.

4. Better sharing/integration options if you use other Apple devices.

If I had some assurance from Apple they were committed to continual development and not just life support I would use Aperture exclusively. However it seems to have been all but abandoned.

At this point I have been on LR for the past 8 months and won't change back unless Apple commits. LR is just fine, and I know Adobe will continue to improve it.

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robgendreau wrote:

I think that the changes that will come in Yosemite will be in two main areas, organization of photos over all Apple devices and iCloud (Photostream was NOT that solution),

I don't know what started the idea that Photo Stream is for organising photos. Photo Stream has one purpose and one purpose only: automatically transport/spread all images from one device to all other devices.

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Aperture is dead, although there will be a compatibility update. RIP.

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This information is incorrect. Please look at this video and read the latest news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IibYc0ee7g0

http://www.aperture-presets.com/apple-aperture-on-os-x-10-10-yosemite

Following these updates and since I am an Apple developer, I installed DP3 (OS X 10.10) and Aperture 3.5....I have no issues running my daily routines with Aperture.

DP3 is pretty stable and Apple already announced an update to Aperture to further increase its compatibility to OS X 10.10.

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ixfinito wrote:

It seems to work ok, but when trying to view newly imported images, it will become distorted or corrupted after loading or sometimes even after a couple of seconds. This is only in appearance, the file is ok if you view it elsewhere. Read somewhere else that it happens when editing or using plugins. Tried repairing and rebuilding database without luck.

In case you are wondering, iMovie and Final Cut Pro and Photo Booth are not available for you to run, yet, but there's a workaround which seems to work fine. All and all, I think this is just all a consequence of being such an early release and will these issues will most likely get fixed as weeks go by.

The bug of garbled images has been resolved, apparently not by modifying Aperture but by some fixes in Yosemite (developer preview 4). However there is another bug  - if you zoom in (either by the z key or by command-shift-=) the imagewindow turn medium grey. This doesn't happen if you load the same library in iPhoto. It also doesn't happen if you switch on quick previews.

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Meer wrote:

ixfinito wrote:

It seems to work ok, but when trying to view newly imported images, it will become distorted or corrupted after loading or sometimes even after a couple of seconds. This is only in appearance, the file is ok if you view it elsewhere. Read somewhere else that it happens when editing or using plugins. Tried repairing and rebuilding database without luck.

In case you are wondering, iMovie and Final Cut Pro and Photo Booth are not available for you to run, yet, but there's a workaround which seems to work fine. All and all, I think this is just all a consequence of being such an early release and will these issues will most likely get fixed as weeks go by.

The bug of garbled images has been resolved, apparently not by modifying Aperture but by some fixes in Yosemite (developer preview 4). However there is another bug - if you zoom in (either by the z key or by command-shift-=) the imagewindow turn medium grey. This doesn't happen if you load the same library in iPhoto. It also doesn't happen if you switch on quick previews.

When I downloaded the public beta of Yosemite, Aperture also downloaded an update.  It's version 3.5.1 45109900000000.1

I did the zooming as described above and it all worked as per normal, so might have been fixed or is machine-specific.

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