12-50 on EM1 ?

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Franz Weber
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12-50 on EM1 ?
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Hi,

curently I am using my 12-35 2.8 on my EM1 as the main lens.

But sometimes I find 35mm too short in certain situations. So I wonder wich lens could be a good walkabout solution for the Em1 for outdoor shooting when trvaveling.

The Panasonic 14-140 II has decent image quality but I would miss the 12 on the wide end.

Two years ago I used the 12-50 on my Em5, but ended up selling it because of CA issues and slow apperture.

I wonder if the new Image processing of the Em1 compensates the downsides of the 12-50mm so that it would be an appropiate solution.

Who actually uses the 12-50mm on the EM1 and what do you think about it?

Franz

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In reply to Franz Weber, 4 months ago

Franz Weber wrote:

Hi,

curently I am using my 12-35 2.8 on my EM1 as the main lens.

But sometimes I find 35mm too short in certain situations. So I wonder wich lens could be a good walkabout solution for the Em1 for outdoor shooting when trvaveling.

The Panasonic 14-140 II has decent image quality but I would miss the 12 on the wide end.

Two years ago I used the 12-50 on my Em5, but ended up selling it because of CA issues and slow apperture.

I wonder if the new Image processing of the Em1 compensates the downsides of the 12-50mm so that it would be an appropiate solution.

Who actually uses the 12-50mm on the EM1 and what do you think about it?

Franz

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I think the 12-50 sucks because it sucks, and not because of the camera it's used on.  I see many photos posted from the 12-50 that were taken at 12mm that have blurry corners and edges, even noticeable on web-sized images.

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My used purchased 12-50 works fine on my GH3 GH1 GF3 and EPL2.  Picked it up from ebay for a really good price even.

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Unfortunately since it's kit lens it get bashed. It's not a great lens but it's good useful lens. 24-100mm on mico4/3 with some macro capabilities. Just a little too slow for my taste on the long end. Look for a used one since they are plenty of used ones around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsPFNgDb-E0

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In reply to Franz Weber, 4 months ago

If you can snap one up at a good price then go for it.

People go on about just how slow it is, its only very slightly slower than most other kit lenses by a paltry 1/3 of a stop and in most cases its perfectly sharp enough.

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sigala1 wrote:

Franz Weber wrote:

Hi,

curently I am using my 12-35 2.8 on my EM1 as the main lens.

But sometimes I find 35mm too short in certain situations. So I wonder wich lens could be a good walkabout solution for the Em1 for outdoor shooting when trvaveling.

The Panasonic 14-140 II has decent image quality but I would miss the 12 on the wide end.

Two years ago I used the 12-50 on my Em5, but ended up selling it because of CA issues and slow apperture.

I wonder if the new Image processing of the Em1 compensates the downsides of the 12-50mm so that it would be an appropiate solution.

Who actually uses the 12-50mm on the EM1 and what do you think about it?

Franz

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I think the 12-50 sucks because it sucks, and not because of the camera it's used on. I see many photos posted from the 12-50 that were taken at 12mm that have blurry corners and edges, even noticeable on web-sized images.

9x out of 10 its the photographers that are using it that really suck

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Check the Olympus site - i got a refurbed 12-50 for $200

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Paulmorgan wrote:

If you can snap one up at a good price then go for it.

People go on about just how slow it is, its only very slightly slower than most other kit lenses by a paltry 1/3 of a stop and in most cases its perfectly sharp enough.

I agree that the "speed" of the lens is perfectly adequate for a lot of photography. Too bad the IQ sucks.

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Anecdotally, there seems to be sample variation among 12-50 copies, at least based on forum comments. Have found it a good all-around "standard" travel lens, but painfully slow in aperture. It works as well on the E-M1 as the E-M5 but have only shot to any extent with it on the older camera. If you need 12mm, then it would warrant a place in your bag as an affordable option to the 12-35/12-40/12-2.0. Have not decided whether to keep mine, as I have two of those three.

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Franz Weber wrote:

Hi,

curently I am using my 12-35 2.8 on my EM1 as the main lens.

But sometimes I find 35mm too short in certain situations. So I wonder wich lens could be a good walkabout solution for the Em1 for outdoor shooting when trvaveling.

If you already have the 12-35, a better idea than the 12-50 would be a 45/1.8 in your pocket as a supplement to the 12-35 for when you need a tad longer (and perhaps a tad faster too). Other options include the Sigma 60/2.8 or, if you have large pockets, the 40-150/4-5.6.

The Panasonic 14-140 II has decent image quality but I would miss the 12 on the wide end.

Two years ago I used the 12-50 on my Em5, but ended up selling it because of CA issues and slow apperture.

I wonder if the new Image processing of the Em1 compensates the downsides of the 12-50mm so that it would be an appropiate solution.

Who actually uses the 12-50mm on the EM1 and what do you think about it?

Franz

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The 12-50mm perhaps is arguably one of the most under-rated lens. I purchased a used one online and I am pleased with the results I am getting with my copy. If you need a little inspiration have a look here...

http://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=24326&page=58

I use mine with my EM1 and I am happy. Cheap (when bought used or as a kit), fast and silent focusing, weather sealed, powerzoom for video, lightweight and relatively reasonable range (24-100mm). If you can buy it used, its worth it IMO.

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I can see absolutely no reason to get a 12-50 if you already have a 12-35. If you want that additional reach, use the 12-35 and crop. I'm sure the results will be better.

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Thank you everybody. Many differnt answers and appoaches, but each of them appeciated.

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Franz Weber wrote:

Hi,

curently I am using my 12-35 2.8 on my EM1 as the main lens.

But sometimes I find 35mm too short in certain situations. So I wonder wich lens could be a good walkabout solution for the Em1 for outdoor shooting when trvaveling.

The Panasonic 14-140 II has decent image quality but I would miss the 12 on the wide end.

Two years ago I used the 12-50 on my Em5, but ended up selling it because of CA issues and slow apperture.

I wonder if the new Image processing of the Em1 compensates the downsides of the 12-50mm so that it would be an appropiate solution.

Who actually uses the 12-50mm on the EM1 and what do you think about it?

Franz

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Personally, I am happy with the 12-50 on my E-M1, but I'm not really a pixel-peeper: I find that it produces good prints up to A2 size or so.

Having some macro ability is good, as is the weather sealing.

But you've already tried it, and didn't like it. So don't go there again, I would agree with an above poster and suggest carrying an additional, longer lens. The 45/1.8 is brilliant, and tiny. Or the 60/2.8 macro would also be a good choice.

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You must have had a bad copy - the IQ on mine is good and the macro is superb

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It's better than its reputation but as you already have the 12-35/2, 8 I think you will be disappointed. Better to crop.

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I have tried the 45/1.8 and it did give me exactly what I was looking for.

Toa bad that I have to swap lenses now when traveling.

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Franz Weber wrote:

I have tried the 45/1.8 and it did give me exactly what I was looking for.

Glad to hear that! I think it's pretty much a must-have. Very good quality at a very good price and diminutive bulk/weight. And it does give you a bit of extra speed on top of the longer reach in comparison with what your 12-35/2.8 can deliver.

Toa bad that I have to swap lenses now when traveling.

Yes, I know what you mean. I also prefer to have my standard zoom reach a bit longer than 70 mm EFL (35 on MFT). The Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5 I used with my Pentax APS-C DSLR was great from that point of view (although not from all others). And the Panasonic 14-45/3.5-5.6 that I have so far used with MFT has been all right with respect to long-end reach as well. We'll see how it works out with the Oly 12-40/2.8 I bought recently. Less reach than I'd want but at least a few mm more than the 12-35. Still, I'd have liked it even better if it had been 12-50 or so, even at the loss of that constant f/2.8 aperture.

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Taj123 wrote:

You must have had a bad copy - the IQ on mine is good and the macro is superb

Perhaps. Unfortunately too many of my m43 lenses are "bad copies."

Luckily, my 14-42mm IIR and 9-18mm are good copies. And my 17mm f.1.8 is a good copy after I returned the first one.

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In reply to MatsP, 4 months ago

I use mine on my EM-1 when I want to go light. I think it does a respectable job and is somewhat underrated.  In general though I prefer my 14-54mm 4/3 lens on the EM-1.  One other advantage of the 12-50mm though is that the new firmware update allows remote controlled zooming with this lens using the OI. Share app.

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