E-M10 anti shock

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Oldroadster
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E-M10 anti shock
May 14, 2014

I am considering buying an E-M10 but I have a question about the anti shock setting. Does it have the 0 second setting that Olympus is adding to other models by firmware update or should we expect a similar update for the E-M10? I have read a copy of the manual but have been unable to find the answer elsewhere. Thank you in anticipation.

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Re: E-M10 anti shock
In reply to Oldroadster, May 14, 2014

Oldroadster wrote:

I am considering buying an E-M10 but I have a question about the anti shock setting. Does it have the 0 second setting that Olympus is adding to other models by firmware update or should we expect a similar update for the E-M10? I have read a copy of the manual but have been unable to find the answer elsewhere. Thank you in anticipation.

The E-M10 does NOT have the zero-second anti-shock, and there's no indication that Olympus is planning to add it.

It's possible (just speculation, I could be wrong), that it's something that the shutter mechanism in the E-P5 and E-M1 are capable of and the E-M10 is not.

I would highly recommend that you buy an E-P5 instead of an E-M10. Once you know about shutter shock, you WILL find it in your photos and it will be a constant source of aggravation.

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sigala1 wrote:

Oldroadster wrote:

I am considering buying an E-M10 but I have a question about the anti shock setting. Does it have the 0 second setting that Olympus is adding to other models by firmware update or should we expect a similar update for the E-M10? I have read a copy of the manual but have been unable to find the answer elsewhere. Thank you in anticipation.

The E-M10 does NOT have the zero-second anti-shock, and there's no indication that Olympus is planning to add it.

It's possible (just speculation, I could be wrong), that it's something that the shutter mechanism in the E-P5 and E-M1 are capable of and the E-M10 is not.

I would highly recommend that you buy an E-P5 instead of an E-M10. Once you know about shutter shock, you WILL find it in your photos and it will be a constant source of aggravation.

In the 43rumors comment chain about a leaked E-M1 firmware update, a guy posted a link to a (now removed) page showing that Olympus was planning to add 0 second anti-shock to the 1.1 firmware update for the E-M10. I wish I had had the sense to screen cap it.

So, at the very least it's been rumored. For whatever that's worth.

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In reply to sigala1, May 14, 2014

It does have a 1/8 sec setting that is virtually undetectable.

At first I thought that I was getting shutter shock from the EM10 but I'm not so sure now.

I think that the lack-lustre IQ was due to other causes.

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Oldroadster wrote:

I am considering buying an E-M10 but I have a question about the anti shock setting. Does it have the 0 second setting that Olympus is adding to other models by firmware update or should we expect a similar update for the E-M10? I have read a copy of the manual but have been unable to find the answer elsewhere. Thank you in anticipation.

Hi Oldroadster,

Seems like there is an E-M10 firmware update on the way which has the 0 second anti-shock setting:

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-e-m1-firmware-gets-leaked/#disqus_thread

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In reply to Oldroadster, May 14, 2014

If the EM10 shows evidence of shutter shock, Olympus will issue the firmware update for it which will fix the problem.  It is a great camera.

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In reply to Andre Bomhof, May 14, 2014

Thankyou for the prompt replies. I have a G3 and a 45-175 which suffers from shutter shock noticeably and hope to up grade later this year. Looks like I need to save up a little more for the E-M1.

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Oldroadster wrote:

Thankyou for the prompt replies. I have a G3 and a 45-175 which suffers from shutter shock noticeably and hope to up grade later this year. Looks like I need to save up a little more for the E-M1.

I meant this bit from the 43rumors article:

"UPDATE: There should be a new E-M10 fw update too with following improvements:

1) Improved image stabilization during movie recording
2) 0-second value is added to the “Anti-Shock” mode"

André

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I have seen no evidence of shutter shock in the E-M10
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I can't swear is never happens, but I can swear I haven't seen it.

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Re: I have seen no evidence of shutter shock in the E-M10
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From the DPR EM10 review - last paragraph on Image Quality.

We were also pleased to find that, in our testing, the E-M10 did not prove to be susceptible to the shutter shock we saw from the PEN E-P5 - so the image quality is more consistently available.

Here's the Link

Nonetheless, of a FW update helps the EP5, it's welcome on other cameras too.

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E-M5 firmware update too
In reply to Andre Bomhof, May 15, 2014

Andre Bomhof wrote:

I meant this bit from the 43rumors article:

"UPDATE: There should be a new E-M10 fw update too with following improvements:

1) Improved image stabilization during movie recording
2) 0-second value is added to the “Anti-Shock” mode"

Hope it gets added to an E-M5 firmware update too.

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What the heck is shutter shock? I have had no issue with my em10

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Re: I have seen no evidence of shutter shock in the E-M10
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I know it's weird, but you might not notice it until you don't have it. That's how it was with my EM-1. Suddenly a lot of my photos got a little sharper, but they always seemed sharp before. It's like having 20/20 vision and then moving to slightly better than 20/20.

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1/8s anti-shock is not "virtually undetectable". It adds a very noticeable "sluggishness" to the feel of the camera. (At least on my E-M5 it does, and I assume the E-M10 with the same shutter is the same.) I have always felt that perhaps a shorter delay would be sufficient to battle shutter shock without causing a noticeable delay. So I would definitely welcome a 0s setting on the E-M5 and E-M10.

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does the 1/8s anti-shock degrade IQ?

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We must say bravo to oly for these firmware updates. I love my em 10 and if we get efc then it will be perfect for me.

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Henry Richardson wrote:

Andre Bomhof wrote:

I meant this bit from the 43rumors article:

"UPDATE: There should be a new E-M10 fw update too with following improvements:

1) Improved image stabilization during movie recording
2) 0-second value is added to the “Anti-Shock” mode"

Hope it gets added to an E-M5 firmware update too.

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I understand what you're saying, but I've never experienced shutter shock with my E-M5.  The E-M5 shutter doesn't seem to be particularly prone to shutter shock, possibly because of its lower top speed.

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newellj wrote:

I understand what you're saying, but I've never experienced shutter shock with my E-M5. The E-M5 shutter doesn't seem to be particularly prone to shutter shock, possibly because of its lower top speed.

Doesn't the E-M10 also have the slower shutter like the E-M5?  This thread we are posting in is about the E-M10.  Also, I found at least one E-M10 shutter shock report:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53491861

I haven't been concerned with shutter shock with my E-M5, but recently as I was going through a bunch of photos from my trip to Turkey that ended not long ago I found several taken around 1/100 and 1/125 at short focal lengths that I would normally have expected to be sharp, but they sort of looked like the shutter shock examples I have seen.  I haven't bothered investigating and they may look that way for another reason, but it got shutter shock on my radar.   Would be nice if Olympus had a firmware update for the E-M10 and E-M5 with the new setting.

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newellj wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Andre Bomhof wrote:

I meant this bit from the 43rumors article:

"UPDATE: There should be a new E-M10 fw update too with following improvements:

1) Improved image stabilization during movie recording
2) 0-second value is added to the “Anti-Shock” mode"

Hope it gets added to an E-M5 firmware update too.

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I understand what you're saying, but I've never experienced shutter shock with my E-M5. The E-M5 shutter doesn't seem to be particularly prone to shutter shock, possibly because of its lower top speed.

While I agree the E-M5 is better than all other Olympus cameras without EFCS, evidence that it has shutter shock was posted to the internet back when it first came out.

If you've been using the camera without anti-shock turned on, I am SURE that some of your photos are a little blurrier than they otherwise would have been, you just haven't noticed it.

Like some other poster said about his E-M1, he didn't know he had shutter shock until after he installed the updated and turned on the 0-sec anti-shock and he reaiized his photos got sharper.

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anti-shock does not degrade IQ, only improves it
In reply to fevan, May 16, 2014

Anti-shock just delays the shot being taken. This means the shot is taken after shutter vibrations have died down. IQ is not affected in any way except that blur due to the vibration is (partly or fully) eliminated.

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