* Wed C&C No Theme Thread #316 14 05 14 *

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* Wed C&C No Theme Thread #316 14 05 14 *
5 months ago

Welcome to the Wednesday Comments and Critique (No Theme) thread!

We are continuing the great tradition of this C&C thread because we are convinced that looking at and talking about images is vital for better photography.

The idea is simple: you post an image and get critique on it, and in return give other people your opinion of their images, or vice versa.

Generally, you should post only one single image for C&C. As an exception, you may post two pictures resulting from one shutter release but with different treatment (for example a color and a black & white version, or a different crop) for us to choose from and comment on.

TWO RULES:

1.If you post an image, you should critique at least one other image.

2.Keep your comments honest but polite. If you don’t care for an image try to explain why. This is neither a “Good shot!” nor an image-bashing thread.

Any style, any camera. It is a peer-to-peer photography workshop!

Feedback is guaranteed (for up to 48 h after the thread has started)! Though keep in mind that the thread tends to be busiest during the first 24 hours or so, so later image posts may get little feedback.

HOW TO PLAY:

1.Turn on "Threaded view" and reply to this post with a web-sized image. Change the title so we can sort different images out easily!

2.Get back to this thread in a minute, an hour or a day or so, and…

3.…still in threaded view, look at one or more pictures of your choice, click reply and critique it.

4.Remember to add the EXIF if your image doesn't embed it as this may help

5.Image posters: please consider telling us what your own opinion on your image is. What prompted you to click that shutter button? What did you see? Why do you like the result? You don't have to explain, but it might be interesting.

6.You are very welcome to post a group reply to the feedback you have received. This could include a new version of your image modified in response to the comments.

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WELCOME! AND BE SURE TO READ THIS:

•The critique you give (point 3 from the above list) is vital. What was your first impression? What catches your eye about an image? Why? What do you like, and what distracts you? What would you change?

•Fiddle with the image in your head - composition, perspective, color balance, exposure.

  • It is understood that unless the original poster specifically states that they do not want an altered image posted that you are free to alter the posted image and repost it in a reply for C&C purposes. That reposted image may remain permanently or you may remove it after a short period of time if you prefer.

•More general feedback is also welcome. Do you know something about taking the same sort of image that would make matters easier - share your own as an example in your reply. Encourage - it is a scary business putting your work up for other people to judge!

•Finally what is the verdict? Waste-bin? Snapshot? Could be better? Family Album? Frame on wall? Poster-size frame on wall? Billboard? Reuters? World Press Photo? National Geographic? Museum? (pick your own superlative here)

One of the first replies is “The Related Post”. This is the place to post your general musings about the C&C Thread.

Another of the first replies includes a link to all previous threads. This is called "Archives".

Andrew (19andrew47)

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In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

This is a placeholder for anything related to the C&C threads. And we do mean anything: feel free to start a discussion about the threads, or how you felt when your image was trashed by some mean know-it-all (probably not in this thread, though), or how it feels trying to say something polite about a cr @ ppy image posted for review (tough one).

This is also the place to make arrangements and share ideas for keeping this thread alive and kicking.

The C&C participants will be more than happy to consider all input.

Andrew

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In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

Here is the list of all previous editions of our weekly exercise in ruthless peer-to-peer coaching for better photography; a refuge from gear discussions.

All Threads from 2014

Week 315 14 05 07 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53629981

Week 314 14 04 30 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53586903 (incorrectly numbered 313)

Week 313 14 04 23 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53544914

Week 312 14 04 16 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53505335

Week 311 14 04 09 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53464446

Week 310 14 04 02 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53422560

Week 309 14 03 26 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53380285

Week 308 14 03 19 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53336652

Week 307 14 03 12 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53291173

Week 306 14 03 05 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53244969

Week 305 14 02 26 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53195160

Week 304 14 02 19 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53148085

Week 303 14 02 12 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53097949

Week 302 14 02 05 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53049187

Week 301 14 01 29 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53004183

Week 300 14 01 22 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52955902

Week 299 14 01 15 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52911432

Week 298 14 01 08 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52861838

Week 297 14 01 01 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52814240

All Previous Threads

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32 Buick reprise
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

The image below was taken at the same event and is of the same car as in the 300th edition image, link below.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52955943

Andrew

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Re: 32 Buick reprise
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

I really like the treatment on this Andrew. Strong contrast.

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Bridge with natural highlighting
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

This is a shot from my vacation last week. It was taken with the 50-200 on my E-M1.

I can't make up my mind if this is a good composition or not.

If you are interested there are a few more from my trip to the Florida Keys here...

Florida's Trip - FK14 - Tough Composition Choices

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Road show
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

As usual, Original offers best view.

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Re: 32 Buick reprise
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

Hi mate more nice p.p skills. The car is a classic and I like the treatment, did you think about removing the tree above the car for a cleaner look?

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Stephen.

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Re: Bridge with natural highlighting
In reply to Florida Nature Photographer, 5 months ago

Hi mate looks like a space ship more than a bridge. I would try it with a little more contrast perhaps, I like the framing at first I thought about cropping it a little but on reflection I prefer it this way. The two groups of trees frame the bridge and add depth to the image.

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Re: Bridge with natural highlighting
In reply to Florida Nature Photographer, 5 months ago

Florida Nature Photographer wrote:

This is a shot from my vacation last week. It was taken with the 50-200 on my E-M1.

I can't make up my mind if this is a good composition or not.

If you are interested there are a few more from my trip to the Florida Keys here...

Florida's Trip - FK14 - Tough Composition Choices

I think the strength of the image lies in its horizontal layers.

My thought would be to maximize the effect by cropping the top right down to the top of the trees on the right, then cropping the bottom so that the green band of water is exactly the same "thickness" as the sky-band. The blue band of water then solidly anchors the composition.

Finally, a slight right-side crop brings the scene tantalizingly close to perfect symmetry; viewers would be powerless to resist scanning for slight irregularities. Results: Lots of face-time for your picture, and creation of an interesting symmetrical-echo situation -- the bridge and the stage upon which it is seen.

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Re: Road show
In reply to Zindanfel, 5 months ago

Hi mate nothing like a siren to get people's attention, and that's the case here. What I like is the way the street lights in the image also seem transfixed on the vehicle, everything points to it.

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Stephen.

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Swim...
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Hi everyone this one from a walk yesterday.

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Re: 32 Buick reprise
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

Appropriately sculptural and smooth-as-silk tonal gradations.  Beautifully sharp.  My only niggle is that the front-most tire looks more plastic than rubber.  Can't you scuff it up a bit?  Just kidding...

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stephent wrote:

Hi everyone this one from a walk yesterday.

Regards.

Stephen.

This gracefully kinetic photo reminded me: Decades ago folks in the lower Columbia River area would gather in February on banks of certain tributaries to scoop long-handled netsful of smelt during the fishes' annual migration upriver to spawn. The supply seemed limitless. We caught buckets and washtubs of smelt, gave them to all the neighbors.

The bountiful ocean returns are no longer. Few smelt are caught by casual dippers in recent years; the season is severely abbreviated. I haven't heard that fish scientists know the exact cause of the change.

Stephen, your shutter speed seems exactly right to catch a shadowy, fluid motion so appropriate to the fish. Also good that you orient the frame so the fishes are swimming upstream.  Ever upward!

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Shohada Museum (Tehran)
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A modern office building in central Tehran (Iran) houses a museum (not much advertized in travel guides and definitely less popular than the National Jewelry Museum and others), dedicated to the memory of the casualties ("Martyrs" or "shohada") of the Iran-Iraq War.

A soldier keeps guard.  Large paintings depict scenes of sacrifice and suffering.  Glass cases contain the memorabilia of a number of individual soldiers, lost in the war.  And in the small office of the museum, just on the day when we visited, the ceiling is being adorned with dog tags.

This image is not about (geo)politics, but about people, both lost and present.

Any day of the year, conflicts rage across the globe. Lives are lost. Remembrance is a need.

12-40 lens on E-M5

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Re: 32 Buick reprise
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Beautiful! Gorgeous car - lovely treatment.

Liz

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Re: Bridge with natural highlighting
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Doesn't really do it for me. It just feels a bit boring and all coming at things from an odd angle. Just not a particularly appealing shot, in my opinion - sorry! I've spotted a few of your other pics on the M43 forum and most of them are much better!

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Anyone Home?
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Messing around with the art filters on my camera over the weekend and I came across this rundown shed. Not sure if the pics are any good and if so, which version is more appealing. Interested in your thoughts.

Thanks for looking.

Liz

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Florida Nature Photographer wrote:

This is a shot from my vacation last week. It was taken with the 50-200 on my E-M1.

I can't make up my mind if this is a good composition or not.

If you are interested there are a few more from my trip to the Florida Keys here...

Florida's Trip - FK14 - Tough Composition Choices

A very alien look on a bridge, in which the very distinct layers of the foreground water are just as puzzling as the view on the bridge itself.

There is one thing that comes to my mind as a possible suggestion to create more tension: make the front part less prominent and the composition less centered by cropping away some from the front and the left side.

You would end up with a bridge more on the left side of the image (bridge leading towards the right).  And the layering of the "two kinds of water" might feel more balanced.

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Kinderdijk through the gates
In reply to 19andrew47, 5 months ago

Of course I have to share a windmill...

I started to try to mitigate that snaky line down the path but left it alone. You'll tell me what I should do with it, I'm sure.

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