A77II first impressions on DPR homepage now

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A77II first impressions on DPR homepage now
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Feature wise looks pretty good and the price is not bad considering is 200$ cheaper then the last one on release.

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First impression:

They removed GPS? Why!! I really hate manually geotagging my holiday pics, especially when I sometimes am not sure where they were! This might actually prevent me ever thinking of going to the II unless the new sensor turns out to be awesome (and AF is not a factor to me).

Second impression:

Glad I didn't wait. Very glad.

Third impression:

Same EVF? Really? They've not been able to advance that tech in more than 2 years? I mean the current one is good, but it clearly could be better, not that I'd go back to OVF.

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Moredsir wrote:

First impression:

They removed GPS? Why!! I really hate manually geotagging my holiday pics, especially when I sometimes am not sure where they were! This might actually prevent me ever thinking of going to the II unless the new sensor turns out to be awesome (and AF is not a factor to me).

Second impression:

Glad I didn't wait. Very glad.

I am glad they got rid of GPS and put in more useful things like wifi and AF improvement LOL.

Unfortunately there is no perfect camera.

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Looks like a sensible, well considered upgrade with a little cost cutting
and some nice pickups.
SLT was probably a given, no one was going to recast the body.

Let's hope it buries the ISO thing as well
and we can all go back to dreaming of a 36mp @99 !

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Overall, at least it's underlining the idea that a-mount is here to stay.

What will be interesting is whether a-mount lenses will be improved by the tech in the MII, particularly the mid range ones like the 55-300, 100/2.8 which are rated very slow to AF.

Wonder why they didn't go touchscreen for focus tracking, unless that becomes redundant due to WIFI control from a tablet (I can dream!).

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Yeah, that GPS one is a bummer and those can't take too much space given my phone has one. I can counter the iso hotshoe with a new flash, AF light a small bummer, but not used too often and I take better AF over that. But geotagging my vacation pics... I would hope to get an app on my phone that works with lightroom as manual tagging is a no go area.

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Moredsir wrote:

Third impression:

Same EVF? Really? They've not been able to advance that tech in more than 2 years? I mean the current one is good, but it clearly could be better, not that I'd go back to OVF.

That's what I asked myself as we'll.

The EVF of the A77 was barely good enough for me to replace the OVF of my A700. And for a long time I believed, it would be one of the best EVFs on the market. Until I made the "mistake" to look through the EVF of an Olympus OMD E-M1. Afterwards the A77 EFV looked so shabby.

If it is unchanged in the A77 II, the statement in the review about having one of the best EVFs on the market would be a choke.

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This is very good news. First of all, because it means the A-mount is alive and kicking.

A77 is a great camera and it's successor have a good change to make a big splash. The specification looks good on the paper too, but we need to see a couple of a good test and user-feedbacks to conclude.

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Same EVF? Really?

Have you compared the two?

Here from the press release:

"[ ... ] With about three times higher contrast and resolving power compared to the original α77, the EVF on the new α77 II shows the effects of all settings adjustments in real-time, accurately displaying what the final image will look like. A wide viewing angle and high eye-point are complemented by a newly-expanded choice of brightness settings, and shooters have the ability to manually adjust color temperature for comfortable, accurate composition."

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Nothing shattering, but if you are an enthusiast that we can only hope this gets you that much closer to a pro grade AF tracking system.  I had the original a77, great camera.  The a77ii looks better, and that is really all we can ask for.

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I am glad they got rid of GPS and put in more useful things like wifi and AF improvement LOL. Unfortunately there is no perfect camera.

I agree with you on that but for someone taking an extended vacation traveling over long distances I could see it's usefulness and would probably use it under those circumstances.

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Cecco wrote:

That's what I asked myself as we'll.

The EVF of the A77 was barely good enough for me to replace the OVF of my A700. And for a long time I believed, it would be one of the best EVFs on the market. Until I made the "mistake" to look through the EVF of an Olympus OMD E-M1. Afterwards the A77 EFV looked so shabby.

If it is unchanged in the A77 II, the statement in the review about having one of the best EVFs on the market would be a choke.

You don't know what you are talking about. According to Imaging resource;

"Olympus isn't the only one delivering decent electronic viewfinders: Sony's equipped the A7 and A7r with XGA OLED viewfinder panels with 0.71x magnification. Despite the minor difference in magnification, I found the viewfinders in the EM1 and A7 / A7r shared a similar overall size and degree of detail"

The A7 has the same viewfinder as the A77. The only difference between the Olympus (a company owned by Sony and probably using the same OLED tech) and the Olympus is the 4/3 vs 3/2 ratio.

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nandbytes wrote:

I am glad they got rid of GPS and put in more useful things like wifi and AF improvement LOL.

I suppose it's a matter of personal taste ... GPS is on all the times on my A77.

I don't think getting rid of it is smart : if you don't want it, you could always turn it off ! It doesn't seem to me that the GPS is off to make room for another feature. I could be wrong.

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nandbytes wrote:

I am glad they got rid of GPS and put in more useful things like wifi and AF improvement LOL. Unfortunately there is no perfect camera.

I agree with you on that but for someone taking an extended vacation traveling over long distances I could see it's usefulness and would probably use it under those circumstances.

This is exactly my main use for the camera. Travel photography and I do it a fair amount. I still don't feel the need for it

But of course I couldn't tell what others need or don't need.

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Looks like a nice upgrade to the 77! Great to see for a mount shooters. I really like the possible price setting. That is very encouraging for competitive sales. Putting it up against the competition it looks very good. I also like the hotshoe change. Picking up my 18-250 today I feel a bit better about buying another lens!!

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I read in another forum somewhere that the camera might be able to make use of a smartphone's GPS paired through NFC. Anybody else seen anything about that?

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tbcass wrote:

Cecco wrote:

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The A7 has the same viewfinder as the A77. The only difference between the Olympus (a company owned by Sony and probably using the same OLED tech) and the Olympus is the 4/3 vs 3/2 ratio....

But to my eyes, looking though the EVF of the A7 and the E-M1 are significantly different.

Maybe others also find a difference, because there is one.

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maikin wrote:

I read in another forum somewhere that the camera might be able to make use of a smartphone's GPS paired through NFC. Anybody else seen anything about that?

yes I believe my sony A7 can do this. Never tried as I don't feel the need for GPS. No reason why A77ii can't either.

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