Going to the toilets... what lens should I take ?

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Has anyone ever counted the number of thread titles with: "I'm going to France/Italy/Spain/etc... , what lens should I take ?" ????

It's getting ridiculous ! Why all these people don't MAKE A SEARCH for existing threads on the same subject prior to write their own ? Besides, aren't they grown-up enough to IMAGINE what kind of lens one usually could/would use when visiting a city, museum, church, mountain, etc... ??

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This one was taken with the 18-70mm DX on the D90

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JP Scherrer wrote:

[RANT ON]

Has anyone ever counted the number of thread titles with: "I'm going to France/Italy/Spain/etc... , what lens should I take ?" ????

It's getting ridiculous ! Why all these people don't MAKE A SEARCH for existing threads on the same subject prior to write their own ? Besides, aren't they grown-up enough to IMAGINE what kind of lens one usually could/would use when visiting a city, museum, church, mountain, etc... ??

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This one was taken with the 18-70mm DX on the D90

Well done... only thing, I am not sure I would be putting a pressurized container on a radiator heater, that could cause some (unexpected) washrooms blast...

'What happened to Wasser?'

'Dintja hear, he blasted off the toilet, D90 and 18-70 in hand, now THAT was a flash that lit up the sky'...

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Periscope.

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@ OP. Many topics (even if searched on old ones), have no conclusive info, mostly very biased opinions. One thread is better then the other ofc. Like recent Sigma 35mm, Nikon 35mm comparisons are top notch to read. However 24-70 F2.8 vs 24-120mm F4 vr, comparisons (imo) are moot. None of them give examples. None of them have opinions other then 'I love my X, i don't have the other'. Noone of them have deep practical/scientifical comparisons like the 35mm comparisons.

If a rebate came again today, one bigger then ever, on the 24-70mm, i would feel myself forced to ask this question again. You never know who will answer and it might be hopefully enough to make your decision. Secondly the rebates in Belgium are very random and slow. It's been over a year without a rebate (and the year it had rebate it was twice in 5 months). If it comes again now, i probably ask some questions, it's a lot of money after all.

For instance i know i want a longer focal length then 85mm F1.8 that i have now. So i want a 70-200mm (either version) or 80-400mm. But since i don't have these lenses yet i can't decide wich one would be my favorite although from reading a crapload i have a pretty good idea (atm, it's from most preferred to least: 1) 70-200mm F4, 2) 80-400mm VR, 3) 70-200mm F2.8 Vr. Yet the last one is still tempting for obvious (one stop advantage) reasons. I only have money for one. And renting one is very expensive here (totally not worth it). It also seems selling lenses means at least 100-300 euro loss, so just doing that to try them out isn't an option. What's left is research. I probably read over 300 hours, just for lens comparisons in my free time, and i still don't have the perfect answers. (they don't exist I know). But any (valuable, sincere) advice is any day welcome, and asking again is always good imo (because the longer you have lenses the better you can evaluate them). Like the tamron 150-600mm exists, but to have a very good impressino of it, we need at least 1-2 more years (for nikon mount to release, and to have all bird seasons tested several times, to leave any doubt out for it's performance.)

So stop stressing it mate. For some of us research is important, and trying to gather more by starting a topic, is not bad at all. I most of time use old topics and 'refresh' (necro them for those who know this term) with the question to see if ppl changed their mind or learned new stuff.

If i would count the amount of money i spared by proper research, i probably won the lotery. So while i get the spamming same question is anoying (especially if a week old topic or so exists), when there's a big lack of deep going topics about something, people have the right to ask the question again. There is still no (remotely close to) satisfying 24-70mm F2.8 vs 24-120mm comparison out there. And i don't mean charts. I mean if one could only choose one (pro's always have both for some reason, the reviewing ones that is) have the means to buy both. So only one chance to get it right.

It's why i love the Sigma 35mm Art tbh While it may not be the best lens ever, it's so good, that it stirred up more forum posts, then almost any other lens, and with that much topics/reviews/tests to read about, it's much easier to justify if it's the lens for you or not.

So far haven't been dissapointed with my lenses, but i haven't broken the 1000 euro barrier either, and that is to come soon with telelenses, so I rather know now, what to buy.

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I think you totally missed the OP's point.

He was talking about endless threads about "what's the best lens to take to Spain, or France, or wherever". To which there is no correct answer apart from whatever you require for your type of shooting which shouldn't really be any different that what you normally use to shoot wherever you are.

Maybe if you are headed off to do some specialized shooting like safari or surfing etc that you might need some specialized advice on, the question is valid but why would any country require different lenses than any other?

Why is it we never see threads from people in europe or elsewhere asking "what kind of lens do I need to shoot in Ohio?" or "What kind of lens do I need to shoot in Nebraska?" Kind of sounds goofy doesn't it?

That was his point, and a most worthy one, I thought, even if made tongue in cheek.

Plus, it just happened to produce one of the more amusing threads here in some time.

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I think you totally missed the OP's point.

He was talking about endless threads about "what's the best lens to take to Spain, or France, or wherever". To which there is no correct answer apart from whatever you require for your type of shooting which shouldn't really be any different that what you normally use to shoot wherever you are.

Maybe if you are headed off to do some specialized shooting like safari or surfing etc that you might need some specialized advice on, the question is valid but why would any country require different lenses than any other?

Why is it we never see threads from people in europe or elsewhere asking "what kind of lens do I need to shoot in Ohio?" or "What kind of lens do I need to shoot in Nebraska?" Kind of sounds goofy doesn't it?

That was his point, and a most worthy one, I thought, even if made tongue in cheek.

Plus, it just happened to produce one of the more amusing threads here in some time.

Thanks Michael for the kind words ! Frankly, I just hoped to provoque some buzz with my thread (besides having the pleasure of grumbling publically), and I was very curious to see how many posts and "like" I could get.... I worked very well and I'm quite happy !

However, MattiD80 is also right in his post ! ...but I believe that -particularly in DPReview- if we deleted all totally useless threads -including THIS ONE-, the forum would be rather empty !

Ohhh well.... We can't spend all our time just being genious photographers and writers, can't we ?

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I maybe read him wrong. I focussed on his part 'why do people not use search function on existing threads'. I explained why in my case i would prefer new topics for certain stuff rather then using the old ones'. But yeah you have a point, it might have been more focussed towards the 'country question'.

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Periscope.

Good one !

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I maybe read him wrong. I focussed on his part 'why do people not use search function on existing threads'. I explained why in my case i would prefer new topics for certain stuff rather then using the old ones'. But yeah you have a point, it might have been more focussed towards the 'country question'.

No... you were quite right: there are so many useless threads, or threads asking questions to which the OP ONLY can find answerS !!

Anyway, for most of us, photography is a hobby... So we can "waist our time" reading and writing silly or useless things ! I believe "real" pro photographers don't spend much time "playing" in photo forums !?! They are to busy trying to earn their salary !

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Ah,

How often do I hear that people are not prepared to do toilet photography (also referred as toilet shooting) and taking the wrong lens to do the job

And as you may not be surprised about it, it depends on several things. The size of the toilet, the lighting (fast lens/flash setup?)

This photo (full size) is fresh from the press (or fresh from the toilet so to say) at Nikon Osaka and it is quite narrow. So  I used the D3S (ISO 12800) and the 14-24mm F/2.8G at F/4
The lens is perfect for it. I was in a hurry, so sorry for boring composition.

Keep in mind this is with lit  down. You can have much more creative toilet shooting with the lit up...depending on the content inside of course.

Good luck with your toiletography.

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Ah,

How often do I hear that people are not prepared to do toilet photography (also referred as toilet shooting) and taking the wrong lens to do the job

And as you may not be surprised about it, it depends on several things. The size of the toilet, the lighting (fast lens/flash setup?)

This photo (full size) is fresh from the press (or fresh from the toilet so to say) at Nikon Osaka and it is quite narrow. So I used the D3S (ISO 12800) and the 14-24mm F/2.8G at F/4
The lens is perfect for it. I was in a hurry, so sorry for boring composition.

Keep in mind this is with lit down. You can have much more creative toilet shooting with the lit up...depending on the content inside of course.

Good luck with your toiletography.

Thanks for this very interesting post and image, Michael !

One question: what's that thing on the left of the "seat" ?

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....which are "playable" at:

http://www.viewat.org/?i=en&id_aut=2489&id_pn=11754&sec=pn !

and at:

https://www.360cities.net/image/bathroom-2-brazil !

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P&S protection advised...

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For a wee wee, it's all right, but for more "solid" matter, it must be difficult to use that one, no ?

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I fear it would be counterproductive to aiming.

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BOG - British word for toilet.

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Hi J-P,

Not sure what you mean with left..left when you sit on it....or left when standing in front of it

Let me explain a bit about Japanese トイレ (in romaji that is toire...pronounced as "toy re") or toilet.

As with bath Japanese like also a bit luxury when they have to be at their own...toilet or bath (I don't mean that they perform the same habits at both places.)
This is a 'simple' company toilet - so it has only seat heating and 'butt flush'
The more luxurious ones have build in music (or sound of a waterfall something like that for those moments you do not want to let some one hear some specific sounds) a color lcd display for better temperature or cooling adjustment, seat height adjustment (electric of course) cleaning functionality, water massage spray for that back part. You even have them with certain massage functionality when you have problems with constipation. (personally I have no experience with those toilets.)

I really hope this explanation gave you your answer?

Michel

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M Lammerse wrote:

Ah,

How often do I hear that people are not prepared to do toilet photography (also referred as toilet shooting) and taking the wrong lens to do the job

And as you may not be surprised about it, it depends on several things. The size of the toilet, the lighting (fast lens/flash setup?)

This photo (full size) is fresh from the press (or fresh from the toilet so to say) at Nikon Osaka and it is quite narrow. So I used the D3S (ISO 12800) and the 14-24mm F/2.8G at F/4
The lens is perfect for it. I was in a hurry, so sorry for boring composition.

Keep in mind this is with lit down. You can have much more creative toilet shooting with the lit up...depending on the content inside of course.

Good luck with your toiletography.

Thanks for this very interesting post and image, Michael !

One question: what's that thing on the left of the "seat" ?

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M Lammerse wrote:

Hi J-P,

Not sure what you mean with left..left when you sit on it....or left when standing in front of it

Let me explain a bit about Japanese トイレ (in romaji that is toire...pronounced as "toy re") or toilet.

As with bath Japanese like also a bit luxury when they have to be at their own...toilet or bath (I don't mean that they perform the same habits at both places.)
This is a 'simple' company toilet - so it has only seat heating and 'butt flush'
The more luxurious ones have build in music (or sound of a waterfall something like that for those moments you do not want to let some one hear some specific sounds) a color lcd display for better temperature or cooling adjustment, seat height adjustment (electric of course) cleaning functionality, water massage spray for that back part. You even have them with certain massage functionality when you have problems with constipation. (personally I have no experience with those toilets.)

I really hope this explanation gave you your answer?

Michel

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M Lammerse wrote:

Ah,

How often do I hear that people are not prepared to do toilet photography (also referred as toilet shooting) and taking the wrong lens to do the job

And as you may not be surprised about it, it depends on several things. The size of the toilet, the lighting (fast lens/flash setup?)

This photo (full size) is fresh from the press (or fresh from the toilet so to say) at Nikon Osaka and it is quite narrow. So I used the D3S (ISO 12800) and the 14-24mm F/2.8G at F/4
The lens is perfect for it. I was in a hurry, so sorry for boring composition.

Keep in mind this is with lit down. You can have much more creative toilet shooting with the lit up...depending on the content inside of course.

Good luck with your toiletography.

Thanks for this very interesting post and image, Michael !

One question: what's that thing on the left of the "seat" ?

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Thank you for the enlightening cultural lesson. Shows that even in the 'crappiest topic' one can learn something....

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