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Continued to be amazed by low light performace from EM-1

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DaveLemi
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Continued to be amazed by low light performace from EM-1
Apr 26, 2014

Ok, amazed is a little strong but there's nothing wrong with some Saturday morning hyperbole. This picture is a quick and casual shot of my cat cuddling with my daughter (very rare moment). I had the 12-40mm lens attached set to aperture priority and also have auto ISO set.

The picture isn't the greatest in the world, but I noticed it was shot at ISO 3200 and the quality of the image surprised me. Yes, if I took my time and set everything properly I could have got away with ISO 800 but 3200 is quite usable.

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Alex Notpro wrote:

any post-processing?

No- OOC JPG

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Re: Continued to be amazed by low light performace from EM-1
In reply to DaveLemi, Apr 26, 2014

Seems muchy and not very detailed to me. I'm sure you (and the camera) can do better than that.

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Re: Continued to be amazed by low light performace from EM-1
In reply to photofan1986, Apr 26, 2014

Hmmm, gotta say, I totally disagree. For an out of camera jpeg at iso 3200 it show very nice detail at 100%. And of course downsized it looks like it could be iso 200.

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photofan1986 wrote:

Seems muchy and not very detailed to me. I'm sure you (and the camera) can do better than that.

I've looked at the original file. Cats eyes are in focus. Shutter fast enough to freeze subjects (in this situation). Shooting at smaller apertures would have bumped up ISO or lowered shutter speed, I don't think it would have been worth whatever it was supposed to do. Shooting at a faster shutter speed for a lower ISO would have been risky too (noisy pics are better than blurry pics). In low light, you have to take the pics you can take.

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Well, it's certainly sharp in the sense of lack of motion but noise suppression makes details mushy. I get the same with my E-M5. My Panasonic GM1 is better, however. But what I mean is that it would have been better in RAW with some careful processing.

edit: Ok, it's not bad by any means, but it could have been even better with proper raw processing.

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photofan1986 wrote:

Well, it's certainly sharp in the sense of lack of motion but noise suppression makes details mushy. I get the same with my E-M5. My Panasonic GM1 is better, however. But what I mean is that it would have been better in RAW with some careful processing.

Yes, RAW and careful processing produces some impressive results from the E-M1. I suspect the GM1 and EM1 have the same sensor. Here's one of a dashing male model at 12,800.

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Wow you have all of my dream lenses

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Robert Evagelista wrote:

Wow you have all of my dream lenses

I wish the PanLeica 42.5 wasn't so expensive, or better yet, I wish my wife didn't think that lens was so expensive.

The 75mm is probably my favorite right now since it's so capable capturing my kids indoor activities.

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Dave Sanders wrote:

photofan1986 wrote:

Well, it's certainly sharp in the sense of lack of motion but noise suppression makes details mushy. I get the same with my E-M5. My Panasonic GM1 is better, however. But what I mean is that it would have been better in RAW with some careful processing.

Yes, RAW and careful processing produces some impressive results from the E-M1. I suspect the GM1 and EM1 have the same sensor. Here's one of a dashing male model at 12,800.

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12.8k- wow! Great picture

To demonstrate how far technology has come, here is a 17yr old scan of ISO 1600 B&W negative film-

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In reply to DaveLemi, Apr 27, 2014

Hi, I have to agree, I am pretty impressed with the ability of this camera to capture images of this calibre straight-out-of-the-box, I remember when 1000 ASA (ISO) was amazing for 35mm film. This below is from the GM1 just a simple grab shot using AI mode (Lumix GM1) and printed to A3+ is quite acceptable. Go to 100% I can see its not clean and could be enhanced, but I know there is no benefit as the printout will never resolve that level of detail. If I were to crop aggressively, then I'd be more limited.

All the best, David

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