The Olympus OM-D E-M10

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The Olympus OM-D E-M10
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The Olympus OM-D E-M10 16 mega pixel, is entry-level OM-D camera with  built-in Wi-Fi. With  E-M10 offers an impressive level of direct control in a camera.Excellent for Street photographers, students, those who want lots of from a camera.

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thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

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superstar905 wrote:

thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

You want something a little deeper? Try here

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Well balanced review! Thanks.

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OM-D E-M10, what about battery life
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HussainJanjua wrote:

The Olympus OM-D E-M10 16 mega pixel, is entry-level OM-D camera with built-in Wi-Fi. With E-M10 offers an impressive level of direct control in a camera.Excellent for Street photographers, students, those who want lots of from a camera.

There no doubt that this is a very good camera.

I heard this model esp. with the motorised 14-42mm EZ lens tends to suck a lot of power from the battery hence one has to change battery MORE often than the previous Olympus models... Is this true?

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superstar905 wrote:

thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

You want something a little deeper? Try here

Yes, the Oly EM10 menu is maddening. I started a thread  here asking for help with it a couple of weeks ago, and Guy Parsons was helpful. I now know how to reach the secret Super Control Menu and how to manipulate it. But there are a huge number of important things I still can't figure out how to do. I thought the Sony Nex menu system was appalling but the Olympus menu is far worse,  a real disaster.

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ttan98 wrote:

HussainJanjua wrote:

The Olympus OM-D E-M10 16 mega pixel, is entry-level OM-D camera with built-in Wi-Fi. With E-M10 offers an impressive level of direct control in a camera.Excellent for Street photographers, students, those who want lots of from a camera.

There no doubt that this is a very good camera.

I heard this model esp. with the motorised 14-42mm EZ lens tends to suck a lot of power from the battery hence one has to change battery MORE often than the previous Olympus models... Is this true?

I find the Olympus EM10 battery life to be disappointingly short.

Krugman

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Hi Paul, Olympus OM-D E-M10, bracketing
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Thanks, a rather nice short review!

But the bracketing bit is a bit off

"Not so nice is that the bracketing is still limited to 3 frame at -1, 0, and +1 EV. Come on Olympus it is 2014, your sensor has great dynamic range lets at least have 2 stop intervals."

see here:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympus-om-d-e-m10/2

You must like the em10 even more after knowing this.

Kind regards Perry

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No problem here. Around 350 to 400 shots. Using 2 batteries for a full day shooting.

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krugman wrote:

Paul Amyes wrote:

superstar905 wrote:

thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

You want something a little deeper? Try here

Yes, the Oly EM10 menu is maddening. I started a thread here asking for help with it a couple of weeks ago, and Guy Parsons was helpful. I now know how to reach the secret Super Control Menu and how to manipulate it. But there are a huge number of important things I still can't figure out how to do. I thought the Sony Nex menu system was appalling but the Olympus menu is far worse, a real disaster.

Krugman

What is it you can't figure out how to do?

Usually (obviously not always), appalling = unfamiliar and intuitive = familiar. Read the manual, play, post questions.

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ttan98 wrote:

HussainJanjua wrote:

The Olympus OM-D E-M10 16 mega pixel, is entry-level OM-D camera with built-in Wi-Fi. With E-M10 offers an impressive level of direct control in a camera.Excellent for Street photographers, students, those who want lots of from a camera.

There no doubt that this is a very good camera.

I heard this model esp. with the motorised 14-42mm EZ lens tends to suck a lot of power from the battery hence one has to change battery MORE often than the previous Olympus models... Is this true?

While I agree that the battery life could be better (again especially using the EZ lens), I have had no issues with it. Get over 200 shots per battery - and that is doing a lot of zooming and using the LCD to check the shots - but I always carry an extra battery and generally don't use the battery till the end anyways.

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The Wi-Fi is on by default. Turn it off and battery life is considerably better.

I haven't had any issues with the menu/options personally. One or two settings are buried away, but the majority are in obvious places.

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The Wi-Fi is on by default. Turn it off and battery life is considerably better.

i thought that the WIFI is only on when you tap on the screen to activate it (or I guess there is also a menu option to turn it on and off).  I don't think it is active until you tap on the little Wifi button on the touch screen because until that point my iphone does not see the "wifi network" that the camera sets up.

I haven't had any issues with the menu/options personally. One or two settings are buried away, but the majority are in obvious places.

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I'd love to see a third party guidebook published for the E-M10.

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richarddd wrote:

krugman wrote:

Paul Amyes wrote:

superstar905 wrote:

thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

You want something a little deeper? Try here

Yes, the Oly EM10 menu is maddening. I started a thread here asking for help with it a couple of weeks ago, and Guy Parsons was helpful. I now know how to reach the secret Super Control Menu and how to manipulate it. But there are a huge number of important things I still can't figure out how to do. I thought the Sony Nex menu system was appalling but the Olympus menu is far worse, a real disaster.

Krugman

What is it you can't figure out how to do?

Usually (obviously not always), appalling = unfamiliar and intuitive = familiar. Read the manual, play, post questions.

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On my diction:

I was using "appalling" in the traditional sense, following the dictionary definition:

bad, dreadful, awful, terrible, frightful, atrocious, disgraceful, deplorable, hopeless, lamentable

Inspiring horror, dismay, or disgust

I meant to use it this way.

To answer your question:

What took me a while to figure out how to do was getting to the secret Super Control Menu.

And getting to the list of settings in the right margin when I am ready to shoot.

And remembering to hit OK each time I change a setting on a menu; if I forget, the little square that defines where to focus, moves around to another spot, without telling you.

And how to set or disable the touch screen.

And now I find from this forum that the default setting for wifi is ON, and that if one turns it to OFF,   it helps battery life a lot. But I don't know how to turn it off; more research by me is needed.

Also I don't know how to set the Fn1 and Fn2 buttons. I don't see why I need them since I can already set shooting mode, aperture, shutter speed,  ISO, image compensation,  focus mode,  metering mode,  and white balance, without using the Fn1  or Fn2 buttons.

I like photography of several kinds, I like cameras, I enjoy taking pictures, they preserve memories that otherwise fade quickly, but I have plenty of things to do at present, including completing a book  I have been writing, so I don't want to have to spend many hours compensating for the Olympus manual writers' pretentiousness, their ineptitude, their distain for paragraphs as a vehicle for explanation, their very flawed and perplexing table of contents, their inadequate index, and the resulting implicit put-down of the users.

As Guy Parsons has noted, it's a textbook example of how not to write a manual.

However I thank you for your interest in what I am having trouble with in using the manual. Perhaps my list may be helpful to others.

P.S. To get to the secret Super Control Panel (note the pretentious title) press the button on the side of the flash housing on the top plate.  Page 24 contains a diagram from which one can infer what some of the many icons on the Super Control Panel mean.

I have posted a thread here in the last couple of weeks on the subject of the manual,

Best,

Krugman

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It's possible to set a 2-stop interval by using HDR bracketing.

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Steven Wandy wrote:

framemate wrote:

The Wi-Fi is on by default. Turn it off and battery life is considerably better.

i thought that the WIFI is only on when you tap on the screen to activate it (or I guess there is also a menu option to turn it on and off). I don't think it is active until you tap on the little Wifi button on the touch screen because until that point my iphone does not see the "wifi network" that the camera sets up.

I see the same thing. It's highly unlikely that the Wifi drains the battery while the ssid doesn't show.

I haven't had any issues with the menu/options personally. One or two settings are buried away, but the majority are in obvious places.

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krugman wrote:

richarddd wrote:

krugman wrote:

Paul Amyes wrote:

superstar905 wrote:

thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

You want something a little deeper? Try here

Yes, the Oly EM10 menu is maddening. I started a thread here asking for help with it a couple of weeks ago, and Guy Parsons was helpful. I now know how to reach the secret Super Control Menu and how to manipulate it. But there are a huge number of important things I still can't figure out how to do. I thought the Sony Nex menu system was appalling but the Olympus menu is far worse, a real disaster.

Krugman

What is it you can't figure out how to do?

Usually (obviously not always), appalling = unfamiliar and intuitive = familiar. Read the manual, play, post questions.

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On my diction:

I was using "appalling" in the traditional sense, following the dictionary definition:

bad, dreadful, awful, terrible, frightful, atrocious, disgraceful, deplorable, hopeless, lamentable

Inspiring horror, dismay, or disgust

I meant to use it this way.

To answer your question:

What took me a while to figure out how to do was getting to the secret Super Control Menu.

And getting to the list of settings in the right margin when I am ready to shoot.

And remembering to hit OK each time I change a setting on a menu; if I forget, the little square that defines where to focus, moves around to another spot, without telling you.

And how to set or disable the touch screen.

And now I find from this forum that the default setting for wifi is ON, and that if one turns it to OFF, it helps battery life a lot. But I don't know how to turn it off; more research by me is needed.

Also I don't know how to set the Fn1 and Fn2 buttons. I don't see why I need them since I can already set shooting mode, aperture, shutter speed, ISO, image compensation, focus mode, metering mode, and white balance, without using the Fn1 or Fn2 buttons.

I like photography of several kinds, I like cameras, I enjoy taking pictures, they preserve memories that otherwise fade quickly, but I have plenty of things to do at present, including completing a book I have been writing, so I don't want to have to spend many hours compensating for the Olympus manual writers' pretentiousness, their ineptitude, their distain for paragraphs as a vehicle for explanation, their very flawed and perplexing table of contents, their inadequate index, and the resulting implicit put-down of the users.

As Guy Parsons has noted, it's a textbook example of how not to write a manual.

However I thank you for your interest in what I am having trouble with in using the manual. Perhaps my list may be helpful to others.

P.S. To get to the secret Super Control Panel (note the pretentious title) press the button on the side of the flash housing on the top plate. Page 24 contains a diagram from which one can infer what some of the many icons on the Super Control Panel mean.

I have posted a thread here in the last couple of weeks on the subject of the manual,

Best,

Krugman

Hi Krugman,

Just a few things:

1. I totally agree regarding the bloody manual. Luckily I was already familiar with an Oly camera (E-PL2, which was easier to learn at the time) so I didn't really need it in order to learn the FW except for some small things.

2. Your trick of switching off Live View in order to get the SCP (using the button near the EVF) is nice but you can enable the SCP regardless of whether Live View is on or off. Look at this tutorial. Enabling the SCP as they say might save you one button press every time you want to open it.

3. In all MySets I have Magnify assigned to Fn1. This way I can jump into x14 mode quickly before/after taking a picture (i.e. in shooting/playback modes). To Fn2 I sometimes assign Peaking, when I want to assess the focus and depth of field easily) and sometimes BKT (to easily enable/disable bracketing). The simplest way to configure these buttons is by entering the SCP, moving the cursor to the bottom right corner, and pressing OK. This will open a menu where you can assign functions to all buttons.

4. I don't think that Wifi is on by default; you can check you camera by scanning for Wifi networks and if you don't find the E-M10 network then it's off. I can see it only when I press on the wifi icon.

Assaf

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Hi Krugman,

Just a few things:

1. I totally agree regarding the bloody manual. Luckily I was already familiar with an Oly camera (E-PL2, which was easier to learn at the time) so I didn't really need it in order to learn the FW except for some small things.

2. Your trick of switching off Live View in order to get the SCP (using the button near the EVF) is nice but you can enable the SCP regardless of whether Live View is on or off. Look at this tutorial. Enabling the SCP as they say might save you one button press every time you want to open it.

3. In all MySets I have Magnify assigned to Fn1. This way I can jump into x14 mode quickly before/after taking a picture (i.e. in shooting/playback modes). To Fn2 I sometimes assign Peaking, when I want to assess the focus and depth of field easily) and sometimes BKT (to easily enable/disable bracketing). The simplest way to configure these buttons is by entering the SCP, moving the cursor to the bottom right corner, and pressing OK. This will open a menu where you can assign functions to all buttons.

4. I don't think that Wifi is on by default; you can check you camera by scanning for Wifi networks and if you don't find the E-M10 network then it's off. I can see it only when I press on the wifi icon.

Assaf

Thank you, thank you for the help!

I looked at the tutorial and they advise setting the Super Control Panel to ON as the default, by going to the Custom Menu Part D.

But the Dpreview tutorial needs to be pretested with people who are not familiar with the camera. Pretesting would soon disclose that there is no clear indication about how to get to the Custom Menu Part D. It's good of them to try but the English language is not their strong point, nor is understanding how to teach. Ponderous they are, but also imponderable.

Teaching involves listening to how the student thinks, it involves pretesting explanations, and it involves redundancy in explanations. As Paul Samuelson, who made a fortune from his economics testbook, said, "Short writing makes for long reading."

Speaking of redundancy, I remember getting instructions in a small Illinois town to a local county park at which there was going to be a nighttime astronomical observing session. They said, "Take Cooper Street east and turn right at the first stop sign, go 300 yards, and you are there.." This proved accurate, but they neglected to mention that the first stop sign was 9 miles away. We kept looking for it the entire 9 miles, wondering if we had somehow missed it.

Recourse to Guy Parson's helpful and generous tutorial discloses that the Custom Menu is in fact the Wrench Menu, which one can get to from the Super Control Panel. But when one does so, the only Wrench option that appears says "Firmware." And there is no way to modify it or reach other choices.

As far as the Function Menus are concerned, I could not figure out what the four way controller choices for Fn1 meant; I left it at the default, which is AEL/AFL. There is no indication of what those acronyms mean. I figure they probably mean Auto Exposure Lock and Auto Focus Lock. But what do they do? Neither the manual nor the Dpreview guide has any explanation that i can find. Do they lock exposure and focus at the same point? Only the shadow knows, and he doesn't know how to tell us.

With Fn2 I had better luck. I was able to set it to toggle focus peaking (which is very important to me in digitizing slides) from ON to OFF and back to On again, by pressing the Fn2 button repeatedly.

But you can see from this sad tale that from the point of view of the user, the DpReview "explanations" are as inept and enigmatic as the manual.

It's too bad that engineering curricula, in addition to furthering a sense of intellectual superiority in engineers, don't cover writing, teaching, or explaining. Long ago I worked for a top quality engineering and applied science research firm. The engineers were great but we had to have a special staff of editors to translate their wretchedly written reports so the clients could understand them.

Thanks again for your help, I am slowly making progress thanks to your help and that of Guy Parsons, but it is taking plenty of time that I don't have.

About wifi, I hit the OFF button and I hope it is gone.

Best,

Krugman

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krugman wrote:

Paul Amyes wrote:

superstar905 wrote:

thanks for the indepth review. where can I buy thia camera?

You want something a little deeper? Try here

Yes, the Oly EM10 menu is maddening. I started a thread here asking for help with it a couple of weeks ago, and Guy Parsons was helpful. I now know how to reach the secret Super Control Menu and how to manipulate it. But there are a huge number of important things I still can't figure out how to do. I thought the Sony Nex menu system was appalling but the Olympus menu is far worse, a real disaster.

Krugman

I personally don't agree with this, or indeed many of your statements.

"The Oly EM10 menu is maddening"
It seems quite logical to me. Yes, there are a lot of settings but for the most part they're in pretty logical places.
We should also remind ourselves how many features are crammed into this camera. Most digital devices require some degree of familiarisation to get the best out of their capabilities. The E-M10 is no exception.
It's worth putting in some groundwork with the initial setup (as is the case with most Oly cameras). In my opinion, the ability to personalise and taylor this camera is one of it's strongest assets.
Once most of the main settings have been configured and assigned to buttons/dials, you're unlikely to revisit most of the main 'Menu' categories.
The 'usual suspects' (ISO, Aperture, White Balance etc.) can be found, and easily accessed from the SCP.

"I now know how to reach the secret Super Control Menu"
It's not secret. It's also very easy to reach. The 'EVF' button (by the view finder) will toggle between 'SCP' and 'Live View' (both heavily documented in the PDF manual)

"remembering to hit OK each time I change a setting on a menu"
This is quite typical in most menus

"I don't know how to set the Fn1 and Fn2 buttons. I don't see why I need them since I can already set shooting mode, aperture, shutter speed, ISO, image compensation, focus mode, metering mode, and white balance, without using the Fn1 or Fn2 buttons"
Then don't use them. The main purpose of these buttons is to provide greater scope to personalise (should you decide to use them)

I have a Samsung Smart TV (far from Smart) It's menus are illogical and frustrating. It's functions inconsistent and unreliable.
I have a Blackberry Curve (unwanted works mobile). It's menus and functions are unnecessarily complicated. The user experience is painful during the most basic commands.
My E-M10 is a breath of fresh air in comparison to many devices/systems used on a daily basis.
Granted, there is a little pain involved in getting used to Oly cameras. It must be worth it? (for me anyway) because I keep buying them.

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