d700 + lens

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Andre Alves
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d700 + lens
7 months ago

Hey everyone!

Im upgrading from an entry level canon and it would be great to have a few tips before spending the bucks!

Budget: 2000-2300 USD

Priorities: I take mostly people pictures and portraits. I have a baby coming so I really want a killer camera for that.

Besides image quality, its quite important for me low light performance and depth of field.

My choice so far is an used D700 (seems to be a great camera and the FF should help a lot with low light and DoF).

For the lens, I've heard wonderful things about the new Sigma 18-35MM 1.8 DC HSM.

To get a bit more versatility, I could also get one of the cheap 50MM 1.8 or the 90MM.

Any thoughts?? Good selection?? Do you have a better idea??

Thanks a lot!!!

André

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago
My choice so far is an used D700 (seems to be a great camera and the FF should help a lot with low light and DoF).

For the lens, I've heard wonderful things about the new Sigma 18-35MM 1.8 DC HSM.

crop lens, full frame camera. not a great idea. the D700 in crop mode is not only a waste, but only about 5mp.

what exactly do you want to shoot with it? just the baby, or other stuff too? if so, what other stuff are you interested in?

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In reply to arachnophilia, 7 months ago

Dumb question:

How do I know which lenses are crop and which lenses are FF?

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

Nikon labels "crop sensor" cameras as DX, Nikon lenses with DX in the label are for crop sensor cameras. Sigma labels lenses for crop sensors DC and DG for full frame.

Any reason why you have decided on the D700 instead of a D600 or D610?

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In reply to JWReagan, 7 months ago

Thanks! The reason for choosing the d700 is mainly the price...

The 610 almost eats my budget with the body only.

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

D700 - good a choice as any, given your budget.

Personally, I think the 18-35 is too wide to be your main/only lens.   A 24-xx something would be far more versatile.   24mm is often wide enough on FX, and certainly you'll distort people easily shooting wider than that.

24-85vr, 24-120vr (newer version only), 24-70F2.8 would be my suggestions.

Want a good low light lens at a good price?  50F1.8AF-D.   Not the best 50, but can hardly beat the price, and reasonably sharp stopped down just a bit from 1.8.   35F1.9g also good choice.  85F1.8 (AF-D or G) also nice for low light and portraits.

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In reply to PHXAZCRAIG, 7 months ago

Good choice on d700. Nikon has not replaced it yet.

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

A gently used or refurbished D700 is a solid choice, for the money. It still has better low light ability than the D7100 and I have printed 30x40 with mine.

For a lens, the Nikon 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 AFS VR is a good choice. Versatile range, not too heavy, VR, and good sharpness. Bokeh is ok. The other thing about the lens is that it is easy to find one used or refurbished for not a lot of money. I bought my refurb for about $300 - and I see one online for $370 right now.

Then I would add a Nikon 50 f/1.8 AFS G for indoor low light shooting. The older 50 f/1.8 AF-D is not very sharp until f/2.6 or so, whereas the 50 f/1.8 AFS G is sharp from wide open - giving you about a full stop of low light shooting (shallow DOF so you cannot always use it... but useful nevertheless).

This should be a very competent camera system for you for several years. You can add a small flash later like the SB400 or SB700 (birthday or Christmas present to yourself). And when the kid gets older, you can add a 70-300 VR for outdoor activity shots and sports.

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

My choice so far is an used D700 (seems to be a great camera and the FF should help a lot with low light and DoF).

For the lens, I've heard wonderful things about the new Sigma 18-35MM 1.8 DC HSM.

As someone else has already pointed out, the Sigma 18-35 isn't designed to cover full frame.

That said, nothing's stopping you from trying. You can turn off auto DX crop, and shoot with the entire sensor even with a DX lens mounted. I don't know how the Sigma 18-35 behaves on full frame. But typically with DX zooms on full frame, you can expect plenty of vignetting (dark corners) and increasingly poor image quality as you get closer to the borders/corners. At the wide end of the zoom, the corners will likely be completely dark. It might be somewhat "normal" at the long end though.

If you want less of a roller coaster in terms of image quality, the Tamron 28-75/2.8 isn't too highly priced and should offer about the same low light performance on FX as the Sigma 18-35/1.8 on DX (since FX is usually at least a stop better at high ISOs).

To get a bit more versatility, I could also get one of the cheap 50MM 1.8 or the 90MM.

50/1.8 - I've heard great things about that lens.

Which 90mm are you referring to? The Tamron 90mm macro?

Any thoughts?? Good selection?? Do you have a better idea??

You can also consider a used D600 (prices way down because of the dust issues and D610s hitting the market). You'll get better resolution and somewhat better low light performance, at the expense of having less AF area coverage and not being able to hit 8 fps with a battery grip. The D600 also gives you dual card slots and video capability.

With regards to lenses.....I am very fond of telephoto lenses (takes too long to get good wideangle images because I have to wait for distractions to clear - telephotos let me isolate things and cut out/blur out anything I don't care for). If you don't care about slow autofocus, the first generation Nikon 80-200/2.8 seems like a great deal (http://www.keh.com/camera/Nikon-Autofocus-Zoom-Lenses/1/sku-NA07999029426N?r=FE under $300 on KEH). Modern f/2.8 zooms in that range can cost over $2000.

Combine the 80-200 and 28-75, and you have a very wide focal length covered with a relatively fast f/2.8 aperture.

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Re: Think twice about the Sigma 18-35 + D700
In reply to chlamchowder, 7 months ago

Im a bit unsure about the 3.5 lens because i really like the DoF of the 1.8 or the 2.8.

Have you guys tested this??

The tamron 24-75 2.8 seems nice but its 1300 usd used...

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

I just sold my D7000 and most of my DX glass. I opted for a D700 (mint condition with less than 5000 on the SC). I went with the D700 instead of a D800 to free up some money for FX glass. D600 was not an option because one major reason replacing the D7000 was getting a "fuller body".

I will pair my D700 with a set of older FX lenses but I needed something light and flexible and therefor bought a used 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 VR. Perfect when I want to travel light with only one lens.

Other glass that will normally go with my D700 are: 80-200 f/2.8, 35-70 f/2.8 and 20 f/2.8.

I also use it with my 105 f/2.8 Micro and it works great for both macro and as a short tele.

I would welcome any suggestions for a ultra wide zoom. I had the 24-70 f/2.8 in mind but I don't know how much I would use it (big overlap with the 24-85 and 35-70) and not any wider than 24. I'm leaning towards the 17-35 f/2.8 but I have no experience with this lens. Other options is to just stick with the 20 f/2.8 or complement it with the 18-35 f/3.5-4.5 (cheap but slow) or the newer 16-35 f/4 VR (really wide and VR)...

Loving the D700 by the way (not that the D7000 was a bad camera, it was actually a really great camera with a fantastic DR, at least as long as there was enough light)...

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

I have the 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 Nikon lens. It is a great lens on the D700. The combo would be about at the top end of your budget range. Nikon has had occasional rebates on that lens.

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Robert Palmqvist wrote:

I'm leaning towards the 17-35 f/2.8 but I have no experience with this lens. Other options is to just stick with the 20 f/2.8 or complement it with the 18-35 f/3.5-4.5 (cheap but slow) or the newer 16-35 f/4 VR (really wide and VR)...

Loving the D700 by the way (not that the D7000 was a bad camera, it was actually a really great camera with a fantastic DR, at least as long as there was enough light)...

I have the D700 and 17-35.  But as much as I love this lens I would suggest the 18-35 and spend the difference on another additional lens.  The 12 mp FX sensor isn't as demanding as the higher mp sensors.  Probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless you need F2.8

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Andre Alves wrote:

Im a bit unsure about the 3.5 lens because i really like the DoF of the 1.8 or the 2.8.

Which f/3.5 lens? I like the DoF of f/2.8 and faster lenses, which is why I recommended two of them (the Tamron 28-75/2.8 and Nikon AF 80-200/2.8 (first gen))

Have you guys tested this??

The tamron 24-75 2.8 seems nice but its 1300 usd used...

http://www.keh.com/camera/Nikon-Autofocus-Non-Mfg-Zoom-Lenses/1/sku-NA099990610400?r=FE

It's $235 off KEH (used). I was referring to the 28-75 (equivalent to a 18-55/2 on crop cameras), not the new, stabilized 24-70/2.8. The 28-75 gives up a little on the wide end, but otherwise still gives very good image quality.

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

First congratulations on your new baby - I have recently become a "grand-uncle"  and have had the fun of taking photos of our new family addition using my 4+ yr old D700 and a newly acquired Nikkor 85/1.4 G mostly.

The D700 is just an awesome low light/high ISO camera and coupled with a decent lens, you will not be disappointed - personally, I love the 12MP file size.

If I were you with your budget, I get the D700 and a couple of good primes starting with a 85/1.8 Nikkor (about $600 new) and a 35mm for family shots - there are many to pick from. I think the zooms sacrifice too much light for questionable zoom benefits. When he/she gets into sports you can look to the 70-200 VR etc!

Good luck to you - you're off to a great adventure.

My grand-nephew Ethan (D700, ISO 1600, 85/1.4G @ f/2 for DOF):

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In reply to Lou Tent, 7 months ago

Thanks everybody!

Im buying the tamron 28-75.

One quick question: keh has 2 models, one with 5 pins and the other with 8 pins g type.

Which one is the right one for the d700??

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

Anyone??

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In reply to Andre Alves, 7 months ago

Andre Alves wrote:

Anyone??

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3235725#forum-post-42012013

If you are in need of a quick response...you can always search.  Lots of info about these Tamrons.

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