Fast, cheap MFT camera for wife...

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Alan Smith
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Fast, cheap MFT camera for wife...
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I have an OMD EM5.  (Coming from Canon).   I like it a lot.  My wife has one of my old Canon bodies but I want to move her to MFT (smaller, lighter.)

Her #1 concern is rapid AF.   (The only reason she used a Canon body was so she wouldn't lose shots of active kids.)

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

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In reply to Alan Smith, 5 months ago

I keep seeing requests for fast and cheap AF, but I wonder if this always means a camera which will compete with blazing fast continuous AF. In general that doesn't come cheap. However, if you restate the request to ask for a camera which will produce sharp, well-focused individual photos of children at play, the options expand.

That is because contrast detect AF tends to be very accurate and very fast, especially when guided a little. The keeper rate goes up dramatically when using touch-to-focus-and-shoot. There's a good chance that little Johnny at play will be in focus if you touch his face on the screen.

Which means that some affordable cameras like the PL5 or even the PM2 now fall into the fast focus group. And they will be able to use your current lenses.

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Does she approve of the AF in the e-m5?

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Its a verry snappy camera and quite cheap. just dont go over iso 800.

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A fast, EXPENSIVE mft might be a much wiser choice!  E-M10???

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E-PM2 is inexpensive in anyone's book and is a very nice camera. My wife has the 14-42 kit lens on hers: focuses instantaneously and she is really happy with the image quality.

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lapdog99 wrote:

A fast, EXPENSIVE mft might be a much wiser choice! E-M10???

The E-PL5 focuses just as fast as the higher end OM-D models.   The only thing that the E-M1 does better is continuous tracking focus using PDAF.   But the E-M10 doesn't have that feature.

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Alan Smith wrote:

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buy E-M1, give E-M5 to your wife

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mrc4nl wrote:

Its a verry snappy camera and quite cheap. just dont go over iso 800.

I have seen GF5 kits in Germany for 250€. With GF5/GF6 one can cautiously go to iso 3200.

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Alan Smith wrote:

I have an OMD EM5. (Coming from Canon). I like it a lot. My wife has one of my old Canon bodies but I want to move her to MFT (smaller, lighter.)

Her #1 concern is rapid AF. (The only reason she used a Canon body was so she wouldn't lose shots of active kids.)

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

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Is she happy with your EM5 for what she wants?......if so then should be lots to choose from, they are all pretty good.

If not, then maybe a Sony A6000?

Don't think you will get a m4/3 camera that is fast and cheap that will get the shots she wants of active kids without missing shots at least but if the single AF is ok for her then any recent 16mp M4/3 might do.

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Pana GM1... has everything a woman wants: small, light, fast AF, wifi... and also perhaps the internal flash and eShutter.  My only reservation would be lack of in body IS, and no flip screen for selfie.

The slightly larger and heavier Oly EPL5/6 has in body IS and flip screen... but will need Wifi SD card (no remote shutter function) to transfer photos into mobile phone.

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The G5 has fast AF, decent image quality, very reasonable price, great hand grip, menu system is easy to learn, has an "Intelligent mode" that works really well if she doesn't want to spend time on the menu, flip out LCD, good evf, built in flash and hot shoe, no IBIS but OIS works well enough, decent video.

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Alan Smith wrote:

I have an OMD EM5. (Coming from Canon). I like it a lot. My wife has one of my old Canon bodies but I want to move her to MFT (smaller, lighter.)

Her #1 concern is rapid AF. (The only reason she used a Canon body was so she wouldn't lose shots of active kids.)

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

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I think that an issue for many with the "less expensive" current mFT options is the lack of built in EVF the add on options are quite pricey making buying a model with an EVF quite handy especially for DSLR shooters who may be used to using an eye level finder. When I got my first mFT camera the GF1 i occasionally lifted the camera to my eye before remembering it didnt have one , needless to say I got the add on EVF post haste   As an owner of both Olympus and Panasonic I would consider the Panasonic models as the video quality is a step up compared to Olympus.

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Fast AF for wildlife is Nikon V1 system. M43 is not yet a sports camera. It will be in a year or so when sensors are covered with pdaf points.

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Fast AF for wildlife is Nikon V1 system. M43 is not yet a sports camera. It will be in a year or so when sensors are covered with pdaf points.

In terms of single shot AF,  all of the current generation Micro 4/3 cameras are plenty fast.

In terms of continuous tracking AF, the only Micro 4/3 bodies that cut it are the GH3,  GH4, or OM-D E-M1.

All of the Nikon 1 bodies are very fast in continuous AF as long is the lighting is good.  But indoors it often is not, and these cameras drop back to CDAF, where they are slower than the current generation of Olympuses.

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Alan Smith wrote:

I have an OMD EM5. (Coming from Canon). I like it a lot. My wife has one of my old Canon bodies but I want to move her to MFT (smaller, lighter.)

Her #1 concern is rapid AF. (The only reason she used a Canon body was so she wouldn't lose shots of active kids.)

Suggestions?

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GM1, but you will probably end up using it yourself, best buy two ...

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Not wishing to be sexist but is photography such a male dominated thing that the bloke gets the SUV and the wife the cheap little runabout? Or is it that women are smarter than blokes and don't spend the family farm on cameras?

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Hmmm...just noticed that.  The wife gets the "cheap" 'good enough' body while the man of the house gets the goodies.  Hmmm.  This could start a whole new war! I vote for two new cameras of equal value.

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Makes sense to me.

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Not wishing to be sexist but is photography such a male dominated thing that the bloke gets the SUV and the wife the cheap little runabout? Or is it that women are smarter than blokes and don't spend the family farm on cameras?

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How could that be seen as sexist? If anything, it might be seen as pointing out sexism... Which is a far scarier thing to men.

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