m4/3 not allowed on Lower Antelope Canyon photo tour

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BJL
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Clearly you have not photographed Lower Antelope Canyon
In reply to dave92029, 7 months ago

Firstly, the subjects are stationary, so with a tripod, high ISO is irrelvant.

Secondly, you typically need lots of depth of field in a slot canyon, since the various parts of the scene are at a wide range if distances, so the aperture must be stipped down. This makes "big glass" irelevant, amd also eliminates any low light advantage of a larger formst, because a larger format needs a higher f-stop to get the needed DOF, and so needs a higher ISO speed to get the same shutter speed, and gathers no more light in total than a smaller format.

Thirdly, the stationary subjects means that the speed advantage of phase detect auto-focus is irelevant, leaving contrast-detect with the advantage of greater accuracy.

Fourthly, many non-SLR sysrem cameras have phase-detect autofocus as well as contrast-detect.

Fifthly, my experience in LAC was that good IBIS of the EM5 made it possible to shoot hand-held at fairly low ISO speeds.

So you seem to be repeating every alleged disadvantage of MFT that you have read about without understanding how things actually work in practice.

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Smaller lenses, better in low light, more telephoto reach:
you can have any *two* at one time.

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Re: Clearly you have not photographed Lower Antelope Canyon
In reply to BJL, 7 months ago

BJL wrote:

Firstly, the subjects are stationary, so with a tripod, high ISO is irrelvant.

Secondly, you typically need lots of depth of field in a slot canyon, since the various parts of the scene are at a wide range if distances, so the aperture must be stipped down. This makes "big glass" irelevant, amd also eliminates any low light advantage of a larger formst, because a larger format needs a higher f-stop to get the needed DOF, and so needs a higher ISO speed to get the same shutter speed, and gathers no more light in total than a smaller format.

Thirdly, the stationary subjects means that the speed advantage of phase detect auto-focus is irelevant, leaving contrast-detect with the advantage of greater accuracy.

Fourthly, many non-SLR sysrem cameras have phase-detect autofocus as well as contrast-detect.

Fifthly, my experience in LAC was that good IBIS of the EM5 made it possible to shoot hand-held at fairly low ISO speeds.

So you seem to be repeating every alleged disadvantage of MFT that you have read about without understanding how things actually work in practice.

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Smaller lenses, better in low light, more telephoto reach:
you can have any *two* at one time.

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Re: m4/3 not allowed on Lower Antelope Canyon photo tour
In reply to peevee1, 7 months ago

peevee1 wrote:

MatsP wrote:

Wow! I'm glad I live in a country where everybody as the general rule has the right to access all land, private or not.

Huh? I can walk into your backyard without your permission?

Backyard may be a little different, but general rule were I live is that uncultivated/outllying privately owned land is accessible for everone.

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In reply to genesys9, 7 months ago

They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum 
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em

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In reply to Jim Salvas, 7 months ago

We can post jpg, raw, etc. but it'd nice to hear that audio file !

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In reply to agentlossing, 7 months ago

agentlossing wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

MatsP wrote:

Wow! I'm glad I live in a country where everybody as the general rule has the right to access all land, private or not.

Huh? I can walk into your backyard without your permission?

My guess is a nation where trespassing was legal wouldn't stay sovereign for very long?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

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In reply to genesys9, 7 months ago

Antelope Canyon is beautiful, and some beautiful photographs have come from it.  But it's been done to death.

Dan

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In reply to genesys9, 7 months ago

Ken Rockwell souds like a knob...

If your paying he should shut up and take your money...  so is this tour gonna close when they stop production of SLRs?

Why would there be any policy about whay kit you have?

Would it be ok if you had an ancient D100?

Thats not profetional thats protectionist....

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In reply to Eamon Hickey, 7 months ago

"They are simply trying to create an easy rule for limiting the special extended tours to people who are really serious about photography."

If there is too much demand, then charge more? easy...

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In reply to Klarno, 7 months ago

Klarno wrote:

agentlossing wrote:

peevee1 wrote:

MatsP wrote:

Wow! I'm glad I live in a country where everybody as the general rule has the right to access all land, private or not.

Huh? I can walk into your backyard without your permission?

My guess is a nation where trespassing was legal wouldn't stay sovereign for very long?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

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Yeah, that describes it quite good.

Regarding the Same people and their right to keep reindeers on all land in northern Sweden that I wrote about in another post I want to add that that this is not without complications. There has been some struggle from their side to get clearer rights but that has failed, after the longest ongoing trial ever in Sweden. They claimed ownership to mountain areas which probably was a mistake, they might have won if they claimed the right to use and got that codified. And after that some landowners in the southern Sapmi area sued them for keeping reindeers in forest area and won, which means some restrictions. But then landowners a bit north did the same but lose. So the rights are a bit unclear and differs in different parts of Sweden. The Same people has been oppressed, forced to speak Swedish, but are now recognized as a national minority and the Samish language is recognized as a national minority language (among Jiddisch, Romani chib, Finnish and Meänkieli). The Same people have their own parliament which is an official authority in Sweden.

This may be an interesting parallell to the Navajo nation and their situation.

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