The Original Flying Wing

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Glenn Bloore
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The Original Flying Wing
Mar 29, 2014

Had a chance to shoot the Northrop N-9M which is essentially the original flying wing and somewhat of the precursor to the B-2 Spirit Bomber.  At 60 feet wide it was  a 1/3 scale prototype of the XB-35.  It was first flown in 1942.

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Re: The Original Flying Wing
In reply to Glenn Bloore, Mar 29, 2014

Nice plane! was this an air show?

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not The Original Flying Wing
In reply to Glenn Bloore, Mar 29, 2014

Nice shots. Very interesting plane.  Sorry to correct you but these flying wing designs are actually copies of  Germany ww2 designers Horton who even made a jet powered version. Northrop probably got the plans via some dodgy post war deal.

Fact is the Germans were decades ahead on some radical ideas.

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Re: not The Original Flying Wing
In reply to brettchris, Mar 29, 2014

Don't forget about the Russian BICh-3 which was produced and flowen in the mid 1920s - 10 years ahead of the German built Horten H-2.

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brettchris wrote:

Nice shots. Very interesting plane. Sorry to correct you but these flying wing designs are actually copies of Germany ww2 designers Horton who even made a jet powered version. Northrop probably got the plans via some dodgy post war deal.

Fact is the Germans were decades ahead on some radical ideas.

Don't forget the Dunne D.8of 1912.

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In reply to Robin Casady, Mar 30, 2014

Without computer mgt., I bet these wings were very hard to fly.

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In reply to Glenn Bloore, Mar 30, 2014

Glenn Bloore wrote:

Had a chance to shoot the Northrop N-9M which is essentially the original flying wing and somewhat of the precursor to the B-2 Spirit Bomber. At 60 feet wide it was a 1/3 scale prototype of the XB-35. It was first flown in 1942.

Regardless of who developed the tailless concept first - the photography is great, as usual, Glenn. Nice to see this early precursor to the B2 still flying.  Brings to mind a concept for a very cool Heritage Flight!

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In reply to Robin Casady, Mar 30, 2014

Oh dear, do we have something else that the good ole US of A has just found out that it didn't invent

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I think the Vought V-173 was first
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jjnik wrote:

Glenn Bloore wrote:

Had a chance to shoot the Northrop N-9M which is essentially the original flying wing and somewhat of the precursor to the B-2 Spirit Bomber. At 60 feet wide it was a 1/3 scale prototype of the XB-35. It was first flown in 1942.

Regardless of who developed the tailless concept first - the photography is great, as usual, Glenn. Nice to see this early precursor to the B2 still flying. Brings to mind a concept for a very cool Heritage Flight!

Maiden flight 1942. Though full size wind-tunnel tests were started in 1940.

Flown by various test pilots including Charles Lindbergh

article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_V-173

image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:V-173maidenflight-1942.jpg

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Re: I think the Vought V-173 was first
In reply to Cogset, Mar 30, 2014

Of course, it had a tail, so if you are excluding devices with any sort of tail, the V-173 would be excluded. Very cool design though, needed next to no runway to take off and would surpass the Corsairs and P-51s in speed.

The fighter version, xf5u, taxied but never took off as the program was canned do to the emergence of jets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF5U

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Re: I think the Vought V-173 was first
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How do you think a V 173 could surpass a Corsair or P51 with 2x 80hp ? Just look at wikipedia`s flight data.

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In reply to Glenn Bloore, Mar 30, 2014

Excellent photos, got it in the right positions to see its design well.

1942 flying? Looks like it was also the precursor to the Stealth Fighter too, albeit I am no aviation expert, but the slender and wing streamlined shape immediately brings the Stealth to mind.

Thanks for sharing.

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In reply to Glenn Bloore, Mar 30, 2014

Taken last week at the LA County Airshow, Lancaster, CA? I just missed it due to the disorganized traffic management.Here are some of my Blue Angles and other pics.

various airplanes

Beautiful aerobatics, always enjoy watching them.

Precision.... never fails to impress

Dual ....

P-51 and Sabre

Red Bull Heli

not sure what type this one is, is it a Grumman?

Help on ID of this one.

P-51

Glad to see these planes again after a hiatus of 2 years?

Next might be the Chino Plane of Fame Airshow in May.

WW II GIs

WWII Willis Jeep

Near miss at 350MPH?

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In reply to vbuhay, Mar 31, 2014

Nice photos. Number 8 is a North American T6 Texan and number 9 is an F4U Corsair.

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DocetLector wrote:

How do you think a V 173 could surpass a Corsair or P51 with 2x 80hp ? Just look at wikipedia`s flight data.

I wasn't clear, my mistake. The V-173 was a prototype for the XF5U (I included the link to that). The XF5U would surpass the Corsair and P-51 in speed (475 to 500mph), not the V-173 which obviously would not, could not.

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WIMorrison wrote:

Oh dear, do we have something else that the good ole US of A has just found out that it didn't invent

Machine gun and the colt revolver.

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In reply to Glenn Bloore, Mar 31, 2014

Very nice images. Thank you for sharing.

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olyflyer wrote:

WIMorrison wrote:

Oh dear, do we have something else that the good ole US of A has just found out that it didn't invent

Machine gun and the colt revolver.

Swedish Jonas Offrells revolver, 1839 two years Before Samuel Colt

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Yxa wrote:

olyflyer wrote:

WIMorrison wrote:

Oh dear, do we have something else that the good ole US of A has just found out that it didn't invent

Machine gun and the colt revolver.

Swedish Jonas Offrells revolver, 1839 two years Before Samuel Colt

But that's not a Colt revolver. Only Colt could invent a Coltrevolver.

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Don't forget the beer

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