A Month with the MX-1

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DDWD10
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A Month with the MX-1
4 months ago

As tends to be the case with Pentax gear, I bought the MX-1 on a deal-a-day website for the very reasonable price of $199.  I was looking for a travel camera with better image quality than my Q but not as cumbersome as a big DSLR rig.  I already knew how capable the 28-112mm (equiv) f/1.8-2.5 lens was on this camera (I bought my mom an XZ-1 a little over a year ago), and I figured having a new backlit CMOS sensor behind it would be icing on the cake.

Right off the bat, this is a rather bulky and heavy item for a compact camera, and although the camera is finished in grippy rubber, there isn't anything in the way of a sculpted finger or thumb grip.  It works well enough with two-handed operation though.  Build quality is solid but not at the same level as the Fujifilm X10 I owned.  The MX-1 has rather flimsy plastic mode and EC dials whereas those on the X10 were tight, machined aluminum.  That said, the articulating LCD is very sturdy with a smooth, solid tilting action.  I'm glad Pentax got this right, as I found myself using it a good deal.

The LCD is a very bright, contrasty 921k panel - a dramatic upgrade from the 460k panel on my Q.  It is bright enough, even at default settings, to use on a sunny day.  In typical Pentax fashion, brightness, color and hue can be adjusted for the panel - very nice.  Another thing I observed is how fast the LCD updates.  It actually provided a smoother refresh rate (although with less gain) than my X-T1 in a dark room.

Being a Pentax, there are some unique features buried in the menus.  The dual-axis electronic level is very handy, particularly in combination with the articulating LCD, as holding the camera at awkward angles can skew your own perception of what is level.  There is also a poorly-implemented VGA-only time lapse movie mode, which offers no control over interval or exposure, and bizarrely includes sound (sped up dramatically, of course).  I was left scratching my head, as the Q allows much more control here as well as 1080p output.  The Q also offers interval shooting for stills, which is MIA entirely on the MX-1.  There is a full array of digital filters, which again, are not as fleshed-out as those on the Q with many customization options missing.  Also missing is the ability to convert your last JPEG to a RAW file and the ability to customize the green button (this is my one-touch RAW button on my Q).  There is also no way to do a  one-touch magnification to quickly check sharpness on shots in playback mode.  In-camera RAW development is here and works well.  Remote IR sensors are on the front and back, a rarity for this kind of camera.  There is only one dial for control, but a button toggles between Av and Tv values in manual shooting and in practice it's not a real problem.  I really like how manual focus is implemented on the MX-1.  In MF mode there is a distance scale that pops up along with a magnified view... and an infinity setting!  A twilight photographer's dream.

Where this camera really shines is image quality.  The lens is very sharp, even wide open, even in the corners.  At full telephoto and f/2.5, beautiful bokeh can be made for head-and-shoulders portrait shots.  The lens is sharp, sharp, sharp and crisp detail can be pulled out of RAW files.  Zooming action is quiet and smooth as well.  AF is fast and accurate, even in low light.  Image noise isn't even noticeable below ISO 800, where it is still unobtrusive.  What is interesting is this camera puts out cleaner high ISO shots than my Canon 30D did... amazing how small sensor technology has progressed over the past decade.  Compared to the Q, there is more chroma noise but much more detail and clarity. Overall noise levels are about a stop and a half cleaner.  Consider how much faster the MX-1 lens is than the Q zoom and you can see how this camera really shines in low light.  SR is very effective, allowing sharp shots down in the 1/4-1/10 range pretty reliably.  JPEG processing leaves some crusty, geometric artifacts behind, even at lower ISOs.  Processing RAW is a good idea for larger prints, as details are rendered smoother.  Unlike the Q (see a theme here?), there is no control over noise reduction for JPEGs.  AWB is how-on-earth-did-this-pass-testing terrible in tungsten light.  The orange cast is so strong that anybody in your shot will look like an Oompa Loompa.  Even with the "Strong tungsten correction in AWB" custom setting enabled, the white balance misses the mark by a mile.  Manually setting the WB to tungsten corrects the problem, as does shooting in RAW of course, but I wonder why it is so bad when my Q and K-5 IIs are accurate in tungsten light in AWB.  Dynamic range in RAW is impressive with good shadow detail when levels are pushed.  Color transitions are also smooth and an RGB histogram identifies clipping.  Shooting in RAW is best done with patience, as it takes a good 2 seconds to write images to the card.  I use a SanDisk Extreme 45 MB/s card, but the fast card seems to have little benefit in this camera.

In conclusion, the MX-1 delivers strongly on IQ with a capable 1/1.7" BSI CMOS sensor and one of the best-regarded fast compact zoom lenses out there.  The biggest letdowns with this camera could be solved with firmware updates, particularly the numerous Q features that are either missing entirely here or are half-implemented.  Unfortunately, the menu provides no way to check the firmware version so this camera doesn't seem to be designed to even take FW updates.  At the current prices, the MX-1 represents a great value and I recommend it.

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Gold Fish Lung
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In reply to DDWD10, 4 months ago

Agreed with many of your points.  I unfortunately returned mine.  I didn't like that I cannot change camera settings while the camera was recording images.  This problem was magnified when shooting in Raw.  I really liked the swivel screen but the overall ergonomics was too chunky for my taste.

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You forgot one feature...
In reply to DDWD10, 4 months ago

I agree with most of your points but you didn't mention about one very unique feature of the MX-1 and that is the great capability of macro shooting due to the close focus and 1cm focus settings it offers. In 1cm focusing you can actually zoom in as well and get an extra x1.95 magnification.

This is one example:

I have used this setting a lot with great results. Some of the macro shots are in my flickr site in the "macro" set.

Regards,

Ben

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In reply to Benoz, 4 months ago

Benoz wrote:

I agree with most of your points but you didn't mention about one very unique feature of the MX-1 and that is the great capability of macro shooting due to the close focus and 1cm focus settings it offers. In 1cm focusing you can actually zoom in as well and get an extra x1.95 magnification.

This is one example:

I have used this setting a lot with great results. Some of the macro shots are in my flickr site in the "macro" set.

Regards,

Ben

Ah! How could I forget!  I agree wholeheartedly... the macro mode on the MX-1 is so strong that I don't find the need to get a dedicated macro lens for my K-5 IIs.

You'll have to explain how you're able to zoom in while in 1 cm Super Macro Mode... zoom seems locked at wide angle when I try (?).

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DDWD10 wrote:

Benoz wrote:

I agree with most of your points but you didn't mention about one very unique feature of the MX-1 and that is the great capability of macro shooting due to the close focus and 1cm focus settings it offers. In 1cm focusing you can actually zoom in as well and get an extra x1.95 magnification.

This is one example:

I have used this setting a lot with great results. Some of the macro shots are in my flickr site in the "macro" set.

Regards,

Ben

Ah! How could I forget! I agree wholeheartedly... the macro mode on the MX-1 is so strong that I don't find the need to get a dedicated macro lens for my K-5 IIs.

You'll have to explain how you're able to zoom in while in 1 cm Super Macro Mode... zoom seems locked at wide angle when I try (?).

Zoom at 1cm macro is digital zoom, so you have to enable digital zoom in settings. Also, AWB works better in incandescent light if natural picture style is selected, that also takes care of JPEG artifacts (less default sharpening). I find that boosting the contrast in natural (in camera) also works well, looks closer to bright but cleaner when looking 100%.

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In reply to DDWD10, 4 months ago

As DS21 said (above) you have to enable digital zoom in page 3 of the menu.

MX-1 delivers excellent macros with it's fast and bright lens but you can have more fun with K-5IIs with extension tubes, varieties of macro lenses and also ability to reverse lenses 

Ben

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But therein lies the power of compacts in that you can go from general photography to super macro in an instant.

Benoz wrote:

As DS21 said (above) you have to enable digital zoom in page 3 of the menu.

MX-1 delivers excellent macros with it's fast and bright lens but you can have more fun with K-5IIs with extension tubes, varieties of macro lenses and also ability to reverse lenses

Ben

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Re: A Month with the MX-1
In reply to DDWD10, 2 months ago

Image quality wise, how do you think it compares to your previous Fuji X10?

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I had the X10 and now have the MX-1 and prefer the MX-1 IQ.

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In reply to Dale108, 2 months ago

Thanks for answering, i am getting more and more interested in this camera, for sale but mostly unknown in my country (Italy) for updating my Olympus XZ1.

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In reply to DDWD10, 2 months ago

How would you rate AF for things that move? You rated it low for sports but decent for kids. I assume any kind of tracking is a no go?

Also, how is the movie mode, non-time lapse?

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letmealone wrote:

Image quality wise, how do you think it compares to your previous Fuji X10?

The MX-1 has better pixel-level resolution due to the Bayer pixel array, but otherwise I like the look of the Fuji. Less noise, greater DR, and more appealing Fuji colors.

I sold my X10 to my brother and gave the MX-1 to a friend for his birthday, leaving me with a Q and K-5 IIs.

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chiane wrote:

How would you rate AF for things that move? You rated it low for sports but decent for kids. I assume any kind of tracking is a no go?

Also, how is the movie mode, non-time lapse?

I can't say I used this camera much for sports, so I may not have the best opinion.

It is a small-sensor camera so the depth-of-field will generally be forgiving for tracking moving subjects.  I found the AF fast enough that it should do a decent job at this task.

The movie mode is pretty well fleshed-out, with software-based Shake Reduction, full zoom and AF during video and good stereo microphones.  I'd say it's pretty good.

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Re: A Month with the MX-1: FW in place!
In reply to DDWD10, 2 months ago

Hold the menu button at start-up. Up comes a black screen with "ver. 1.00"

Thus I believe the MX-1 is firmware upgradeable. Waiting for it (tungsten AWB).

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