Lens recommendation: is 23mm a must-have?

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TravelLight
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Lens recommendation: is 23mm a must-have?
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I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55? I really like 56mm but the price is so high that I definitely won't buy unless I have a real need (I don't do weddings or formal portraits -- not a pro).

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TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55? I really like 56mm but the price is so high that I definitely won't buy unless I have a real need (I don't do weddings or formal portraits -- not a pro).

Thanks!

Seeing as how you have the 18-55mm, I would have to ask if you plan on shooing in low light or need much subject isolation at 23mm. If the the answer to both of those is no, then I would say that you don't need the 23mm. Also, keep in mind that the zoom has OIS, so if you have a still subject in low light, the OIS will make up for some of it, but ONLY for a still subject.

Personally I like my 23mm and consider it a "must have" for me, while I no longer own the zoom and don't care for it (Great lens, just not my style). But that is just me.

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TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

Only you can answer this question.  Is there a photo you can't make with the equipment you already have?

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TravelLight wrote:

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55?

For what you shoot that is a great set as most of that type of work is not shot shallow DOF. What the 23mm brings is f/1.4 while the zoom gets you f/3.2 at that FL. For hikes the 14 and 18-55 are a perfect combo which I use on long grueling mountain hikes. A 23 would be excess weigh where weigh matters.

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In reply to TThorne, 9 months ago

Im in the exact same boat (well, almost)...

18-55, 55-200, 35 and Tamron 90 for Macro (which is great with these Fujis).

I don't have your 14 (hope to some day)... but DID get the 23.

Yes, I tried shooting with the zoom on 23 for a few trips out.... mostly just to see how much I like the FL.

Seeing that that works for me - I didn't really care if I was going to need to speed of 1.4... for me, I wanted this as a standalone prime to street and casual shots (the 35 also fills this role but differently of course). I love the capacity of the lens for subject isolation when wide. Not being able to get exactly that with the zoom - I spent the money while she's on sale.

If it's a financial hit - maybe sit out till the next sale... or... in the waiting period ... become clearer about whether you want the 56 or 23 more.... both are great..., for me, the 23... for portraits/macros - the Tamron will do just fine. (Also using a 250D there)...

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Thanks TThorne! I love taking sunrise/sunset shots. My apartment can be considered low-light I guess. Lighting in the woods can be dim too but I am thinking about using 14mm for landscape. For indoor cat photos, is 23mm or 35mm better? I heard that 35mm is a bit slow in comparison and you know how pets move (fast)!

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Seeing as how you have the 18-55mm, I would have to ask if you plan on shooing in low light or need much subject isolation at 23mm. If the the answer to both of those is no, then I would say that you don't need the 23mm. Also, keep in mind that the zoom has OIS, so if you have a still subject in low light, the OIS will make up for some of it, but ONLY for a still subject.\

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In reply to John Gellings, 9 months ago

Good question I think I have covered all the focal length Fuji can cover at the moment, but sometimes I salivate over the "pop" some photos make and it sounds like 23mm or 35mm or 56mm can really have that effect... Ah GAS!

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Thanks Al! I used to have Panasonic 25mm 1.4 and I used it for cat (indoor) and street photos (not while hiking of course), but found it a bit too tight...

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For what you shoot that is a great set as most of that type of work is not shot shallow DOF. What the 23mm brings is f/1.4 while the zoom gets you f/3.2 at that FL. For hikes the 14 and 18-55 are a perfect combo which I use on long grueling mountain hikes. A 23 would be excess weigh where weigh matters.

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Thanks! Yes, 23mm does have its advantages, and I really loved my Panasonic 25mm 1.4 prime when I had it (as you guys said, subject isolation is a beautiful thing).

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Im in the exact same boat (well, almost)...

18-55, 55-200, 35 and Tamron 90 for Macro (which is great with these Fujis).

I don't have your 14 (hope to some day)... but DID get the 23.

Yes, I tried shooting with the zoom on 23 for a few trips out.... mostly just to see how much I like the FL.

Seeing that that works for me - I didn't really care if I was going to need to speed of 1.4... for me, I wanted this as a standalone prime to street and casual shots (the 35 also fills this role but differently of course). I love the capacity of the lens for subject isolation when wide. Not being able to get exactly that with the zoom - I spent the money while she's on sale.

If it's a financial hit - maybe sit out till the next sale... or... in the waiting period ... become clearer about whether you want the 56 or 23 more.... both are great..., for me, the 23... for portraits/macros - the Tamron will do just fine. (Also using a 250D there)...

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In reply to TravelLight, 9 months ago

TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55? I really like 56mm but the price is so high that I definitely won't buy unless I have a real need (I don't do weddings or formal portraits -- not a pro).

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I have the 23mm and the 18-55. The 23mm is definitely more capable of creating that artistic feel than the 18-55mm but the 18-55mm is every bit as sharp. If you already have the 35mm, it is VERY capable of creating an artistic feel if that is what you want. So I would say, it is definitely nice to have in the arsenal, but NOT a must have.

As I search through my photos, I rarely ever have a picture jump off of the page that I took with the 23mm.  More often than not I can't tell the difference between pictures I took with it or with the 18-55mm zoom. However, I constantly have photos that I took with the 35mm jump out at me and make me say WOW, I TOOK THAT.

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In reply to TravelLight, 9 months ago

TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street .......

You have already more than enough.

If you later need  a really usable  WA,  the 10-24   looks like a great lens.

You will very likely use the 18-55 in 80% of all images

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LOL!

Joachim Gerstl wrote:

TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55? I really like 56mm but the price is so high that I definitely won't buy unless I have a real need (I don't do weddings or formal portraits -- not a pro).

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In reply to Conrad567, 9 months ago

No, don't temp me with another option! I have searched here for multiple threads on 23 vs. 35. It seems the main complaint about 35 is that it has a different focus mechanism (don't remember the details) so it's AF is slower than 23, even with firmware update.

Conrad567 wrote:

I have the 23mm and the 18-55. The 23mm is definitely more capable of creating that artistic feel than the 18-55mm but the 18-55mm is every bit as sharp. If you already have the 35mm, it is VERY capable of creating an artistic feel if that is what you want. So I would say, it is definitely nice to have in the arsenal, but NOT a must have.

As I search through my photos, I rarely ever have a picture jump off of the page that I took with the 23mm. More often than not I can't tell the difference between pictures I took with it or with the 18-55mm zoom. However, I constantly have photos that I took with the 35mm jump out at me and make me say WOW, I TOOK THAT.

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TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55? I really like 56mm but the price is so high that I definitely won't buy unless I have a real need (I don't do weddings or formal portraits -- not a pro).

Thanks!

No lens is necessary unless it is a focal length YOU use often or you like its rendering. Use the 18-55 a while and see how it works out.

For street, you may want to consider the 27mm. I doubt you'll sell it and if you do you would lose little $$$.

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Need vs. want, the eternal struggle I was really tempted by 10-24 but the size/weight seems daunting, seeing that I do a lot of WA shots while traveling/hiking. That's why I got the 14mm.

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TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street .......

You have already more than enough.

If you later need a really usable WA, the 10-24 looks like a great lens.

You will very likely use the 18-55 in 80% of all images

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In reply to Les Lammers, 9 months ago

Thanks, Les and others! I guess I am trying to justify buying it But I agree that it's better to see how I like the zoom before I make a decision. Will go back to LR to see what my most-used focal length are, too.

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TravelLight wrote:

I have ordered X-T1 and the following lenses: 14mm, 18-55mm, 60mm, 55-200mm. So, with the lens sale ending soon, is there another lens I should buy?

I mainly do landscape, animals (my cat and wildlife encountered while hiking), street, and want to get into macro (mainly flowers and creatures on flowers/grass/leaves, etc.).

Is 23mm necessary if I already have the lenses above? Especially given that I don't really do street all that much, and already have 18-55? I really like 56mm but the price is so high that I definitely won't buy unless I have a real need (I don't do weddings or formal portraits -- not a pro).

Thanks!

No lens is necessary unless it is a focal length YOU use often or you like its rendering. Use the 18-55 a while and see how it works out.

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TravelLight wrote:

No, don't temp me with another option! I have searched here for multiple threads on 23 vs. 35. It seems the main complaint about 35 is that it has a different focus mechanism (don't remember the details) so it's AF is slower than 23, even with firmware update.

Conrad567 wrote:

I have the 23mm and the 18-55. The 23mm is definitely more capable of creating that artistic feel than the 18-55mm but the 18-55mm is every bit as sharp. If you already have the 35mm, it is VERY capable of creating an artistic feel if that is what you want. So I would say, it is definitely nice to have in the arsenal, but NOT a must have.

As I search through my photos, I rarely ever have a picture jump off of the page that I took with the 23mm. More often than not I can't tell the difference between pictures I took with it or with the 18-55mm zoom. However, I constantly have photos that I took with the 35mm jump out at me and make me say WOW, I TOOK THAT.

Fuji may change the motor etc. in the 35 so I am going to wait and see if they do and if it speed up the focus. This will not be the last sale.

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Will go back to LR to see what my most-used focal length are, too.

+1 Excellent idea!

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In reply to Les Lammers, 9 months ago

I haven't heard of that rumor, but thanks for the tip!

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Fuji may change the motor etc. in the 35 so I am going to wait and see if they do and if it speed up the focus. This will not be the last sale.

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