Official 1 Nikkor VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 annoucement

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Official 1 Nikkor VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 annoucement
6 months ago

Another news release hot on the heals of the V3 announcement: http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0313_lens_02.htm

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Scaled back design from patent
In reply to Sangster, 6 months ago

We were hoping for this lens which had 20 elements in 13 groups including 6 ED and 3 Fluorite lens elements.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16&prev=/search?q%3Dhttp://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16%26newwindow%3D1

Instead this lens is a cheaper design with 16 elements in 10 groups.But they are still charging $1k for it. That will be a tough sell as I don't know if there will be enough IQ improvement over the AFS 70-300 to justify the cost difference.

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SHood wrote:

We were hoping for this lens which had 20 elements in 13 groups including 6 ED and 3 Fluorite lens elements.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16&prev=/search?q%3Dhttp://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16%26newwindow%3D1

Instead this lens is a cheaper design with 16 elements in 10 groups.But they are still charging $1k for it. That will be a tough sell as I don't know if there will be enough IQ improvement over the AFS 70-300 to justify the cost difference.

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Well, the size and full use of the AF is the big advantage. Also, the VR is being marketed as 4 stops on the long end and 4.5 stops on the wide end, which sounds really good.

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It has a focus limiter switch.

http://www.nikon.com/news/2014/0313_lens_02.htm

MTF @ 300mm

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Super ED glass with Nano coating. It might be good. It might be real good.

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Re: Official 1 Nikkor VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 annoucement
In reply to Sangster, 6 months ago

Well, one positive thing I have to say about this whole V3 fiasco, and incidentally also the last positive thing I'll ever say about Nikon:

Wait, no, I have nothing. I meant to say something about the lens indeed being quite small for a 70-300, but seriously frak that. That even keep making the speed worse on the wide end on 70-300 lenses. From 3,5 to 4 to 4,5.

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Re: Scaled back design from patent
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SHood wrote:

We were hoping for this lens which had 20 elements in 13 groups including 6 ED and 3 Fluorite lens elements.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16&prev=/search?q%3Dhttp://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16%26newwindow%3D1

Instead this lens is a cheaper design with 16 elements in 10 groups.But they are still charging $1k for it. That will be a tough sell as I don't know if there will be enough IQ improvement over the AFS 70-300 to justify the cost difference.

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What made you think that fluorite lens is needed for such a slow zoom?

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In reply to Sangster, 6 months ago

This looks really good, I'm seriously tempted -  but it will all boil down to price.

I look forward to the reviews.

Its probably still cheaper to buy an FT1 and a 70-300VR AFS lens?

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A 189-810mm zoom range at less than 2 pounds with camera attached providing ridiculous focusing and up to 20fps. This will be an awesome surf lens. Bad Nikon for not including a tripod mount and of course I would have preferred a constant f/4 aperture. Oh well, they can't all be winners.

Still waiting for a couple of fast f/1.4 primes or a groundbreaking zoom like maybe 10-30mm at f/2.

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Re: Official 1 Nikkor VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 annoucement
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Sonyshine wrote:

This looks really good, I'm seriously tempted - but it will all boil down to price.

I look forward to the reviews.

Its probably still cheaper to buy an FT1 and a 70-300VR AFS lens?

The MSRP is set to a 1000$, so yeah, cheaper to buy a FT1 and FF 70-300.

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Re: This Lens Has My Attention
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The Smoking Camera wrote:

A 189-810mm zoom range at less than 2 pounds with camera attached providing ridiculous focusing and up to 20fps. This will be an awesome surf lens. Bad Nikon for not including a tripod mount and of course I would have preferred a constant f/4 aperture. Oh well, they can't all be winners.

Still waiting for a couple of fast f/1.4 primes or a groundbreaking zoom like maybe 10-30mm at f/2.

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Hi Joe,

It does include a tripod mount; these images were on the Nikon Rumors site.

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DaveR43 wrote:

The Smoking Camera wrote:

A 189-810mm zoom range at less than 2 pounds with camera attached providing ridiculous focusing and up to 20fps. This will be an awesome surf lens. Bad Nikon for not including a tripod mount and of course I would have preferred a constant f/4 aperture. Oh well, they can't all be winners.

Hi Joe,

It does include a tripod mount; these images were on the Nikon Rumors site.

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Dave, B&H shows the tripod mount TR-N100 as an option and not included with the lens. Nikon USA does not show the mount supplied with the lens. Hope I'm wrong.

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The Tripod Mount TR-N100 (available separately), an accessory that enables use of a tripod, will be released at the same time as the lens. The power of this accessory is best demonstrated when conditions demand maximum camera stability, whether framing still images and movies with great precision or shooting night landscapes or other dimly lit scenes that require slow shutter speeds.

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Re: Scaled back design from patent
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SHood wrote:

We were hoping for this lens which had 20 elements in 13 groups including 6 ED and 3 Fluorite lens elements.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16&prev=/search?q%3Dhttp://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-16%26newwindow%3D1

Instead this lens is a cheaper design with 16 elements in 10 groups.But they are still charging $1k for it. That will be a tough sell as I don't know if there will be enough IQ improvement over the AFS 70-300 to justify the cost difference.

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Looking at the MTF curves the 70-300mm is being measured at double the resolution(20 and 60 lines rather than 10 and 30) so you may well be talking a significant improvement in sharpness up against even the extreme sweet spotting of the 1 sensor on an FX lens.

To me this lens and the new compact kit zoom actually make more sense than anything else in the 1 system so far. The sensor size and FPS/AF performance of the one system make it a more obvious compact action/wildlife camera.

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The Tripod Mount TR-N100 (available separately), an accessory that enables use of a tripod, will be released at the same time as the lens. The power of this accessory is best demonstrated when conditions demand maximum camera stability, whether framing still images and movies with great precision or shooting night landscapes or other dimly lit scenes that require slow shutter speeds.

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Ok, separate item - I'd not spotted that.  Another $150-$200 I guess...

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At this price, this lens better be as good as the Canon 70-300L. Otherwise it is priced out of the of the competition (55-300VR with FT-1, Pana 100-300, Oly 75-300).

The MTF at the tele end doesn't seem to look promising though.

It is a bit smaller and lighter than the DX 55-300VR, but not so much. Native AF will be better, but I consider that a restriction of the FT-1, not a particular advantage of this lens.

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SHood wrote:

… Instead this lens is a cheaper design with 16 elements in 10 groups. …

I always thought that less lens elements is better (not so many surfaces) - if the image quality is the same. It is possible that Nikon managed to get the same image quality with less lens elements, making the announced lens the better design.

We will never know how good or bad the fictional lens from the patent would be.

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I haven't seen anyone use 60lines/mm on a chart since Olympus!

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Ordered this am, ecstatic they actually released this lens.  I have been waiting (& saving) for this lens, I guess I missed the Nano coating in the rumors!

I am looking at this lens as a replacement for the 80-400 FX - so I am saving more that $1200 and about 1/3ish the size. It will be interesting to see how this lens does against the 17,000 800 5.6.   I never have seen a MTF chart like the 70-300 at 20/60, cannot wait to test this one out.

I camp/backpack a lot so the size is a big factor for me.

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