Just so we're clear. . .

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Glen Barrington
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Just so we're clear. . .
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I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you.  If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

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Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

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I still prefer dslr's.

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PICTURE!!!

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Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

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I don't give a rip that you don't give a rip. You sound a touch bossy.....and angry.......bizarre.

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Senna Pod failure ?

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Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

I've used Minolta, Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji, never thought of a camera  in terms of brand name, only the purpose that a particular camera was for. None of them disappointed for what they were bough for.

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Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

I've used Minolta, Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji, never thought of a camera in terms of brand name, only the purpose that a particular camera was for. None of them disappointed for what they were bough for.

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Absolutely correct! However in this forum the gear is the thing  not the purpose of the gear ie taking piccies, not forgetting the fanboi hat as well.

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Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

I've used Minolta, Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji, never thought of a camera in terms of brand name, only the purpose that a particular camera was for. None of them disappointed for what they were bough for.

For those of us who can't afford to buy a different camera for every purpose though we need to think in terms of a brand that offers the best compromises for our purposes.

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Marcamera wrote:

Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

I've used Minolta, Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji, never thought of a camera in terms of brand name, only the purpose that a particular camera was for. None of them disappointed for what they were bough for.

For those of us who can't afford to buy a different camera for every purpose though we need to think in terms of a brand that offers the best compromises for our purposes.

Which smartphone do you recommend?

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PICTURE!!!

Wow! They've certainly taken the new Holden SUV back to basics. 

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It needs to be over sharpened a bit. Why they can't display photos as well as other photos sites surprises and confounds me.

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For those of us who can't afford to buy a different camera for every purpose though we need to think in terms of a brand that offers the best compromises for our purposes.

That doesn't make the endless name calling, trash talking, lies, and half truths useful to anyone.  Can that sort of stuff, improve ANYONE'S decision?

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It needs to be over sharpened a bit.

Eh? How can any pic need to be over sharpened? Isn't that a bad thing?

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I do wish people would read what they've written before clicking Post. It's so easy to a word out or misspell soemhing.

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It needs to be over sharpened a bit.

Eh? How can any pic need to be over sharpened? Isn't that a bad thing?

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I do wish people would read what they've written before clicking Post. It's so easy to a word out or misspell soemhing.

Not at all, maybe the term "over-sharpened" is at fault, I was trying to be funny and cynical at the same time, I might not have been as successful as I would have hoped!

But you need to sharpen an image to a level that looks good for the method of how you intend to publish it. Many people do a little extra sharpening just before they print even though they were happy with the base level of sharpness prior to printing.

That is a mild form of sharpening called output sharpening. It is a temporary level of sharpening and you do it just before publication. DPR tends to turn photos to a gooey mush. Many people do some extra output sharpening before they upload to DPR because they know the photo that doesn't have that extra level of sharpening won't look as good as it does on their own monitor at home.

I explain it in this article:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7249856861/on-sharpening-images

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Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

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I don't give a rip that you don't give a rip. You sound a touch bossy.....and angry.......bizarre.

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Neil.

Glen is possibly having "one of those days" normally he is a very helpful member of forum.

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sassenach74 wrote:

Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

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I don't give a rip that you don't give a rip. You sound a touch bossy.....and angry.......bizarre.

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Neil.

Glen is possibly having "one of those days" normally he is a very helpful member of forum.

I don't think so, though I'm not above having those sorts of days. I think this thread IS helpful. I'm trying to get people to understand that the endless flame war between the mirrorless/DSLR camps does nothing, nothing, to advance photography.

It comes from the same, dark, futile, and lame place as the Mac/PC wars, the Olympus/Canon wars and the Android/iOS wars. It's a waste of bandwidth and creates enemies of people who share many of the same passions.

Members of those groups are doing nothing for their cause, and making themselves look foolish.

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It comes from the same, dark, futile, and lame place as the Mac/PC wars, the Olympus/Canon wars and ...

What do you mean Olympus/Canon war. Everyone knows it's a Nikon/Canon war!!!!

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Oh. Is that a Olympus/Canon/Nikon/Canon war?

Sorry

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jackdan wrote:

For those of us who can't afford to buy a different camera for every purpose though we need to think in terms of a brand that offers the best compromises for our purposes.

That doesn't make the endless name calling, trash talking, lies, and half truths useful to anyone. Can that sort of stuff, improve ANYONE'S decision?

It is not clear to me how you got from point A to point B.

Point A being "we need to think in terms of a brand that offers the best compromises for our purposes."

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Point B being "That doesn't make the endless name calling, trash talking, lies, and half truths useful to anyone."

But of course it doesn't and if I somehow suggested that it did I certainly did not intend to. I was simply reminding someone apparently wealthy enough to buy a variety of cameras to suit different purposes that people who can afford to do so have a different perspective from those of us who can only afford one camera. They probably even have enough space to store all those cameras and lenses.

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jackdan wrote:

Marcamera wrote:

Glen Barrington wrote:

I don't give a rip what sort of camera you use. If you've bought a camera that works for you, Great! Post your photos where we can see them.

If you've bought a camera because someone did some 'trash talking' on a different camera you liked. . . Well, keep your photos. Anyone who could be swayed by the nonsense spouted in these jingoistic threads is probably every bit as bad a photographer as they are a logician.

Use the tools that work for you. If you don't know what tools work for you, just buy something and start taking pictures. The ONLY way to know that sort of thing is to take pictures and think about them.

I've used Minolta, Pentax, Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji, never thought of a camera in terms of brand name, only the purpose that a particular camera was for. None of them disappointed for what they were bough for.

For those of us who can't afford to buy a different camera for every purpose though we need to think in terms of a brand that offers the best compromises for our purposes.

Which smartphone do you recommend?

My iPod touch happened to come with an excellent camera and for the phone I use a cheap pay as you go phone. My phone was free and I buy a 1 yr card for $100 that has all the minutes I need in a year and it is amazing how many places have free wi-fi.

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Olympus/Canon war?

Lol how can Olympus people intimidate Canon?

Reminds me of SMART/Ferrari forum.
SMART forum: I'm stuck in some Ferrarrs intake, help me get out of it!
Ferarri forum: I've got some SMART stuck in my intake system. Help me get it out...

Just joking. Gear is not what matters here. We all propably loose time in this thread..
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Why does he do it?

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