New Olympus 17mm 1.8

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Brian Lavoie
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New Olympus 17mm 1.8
8 months ago

I love this lens, olympus has come up with a winner again.

ISO 200 17mm, F1.8, 1/50 pic was handheld lightning was halogen ceiling light with new white balance. some lightning was reflected from kitchen granite counter-top.

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Nice shot.  In all honesty, I don't understand why some complain about this lens.  It looks great to me.

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dgrogers wrote:

Nice shot. In all honesty, I don't understand why some complain about this lens. It looks great to me.

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Methinks the complaints are for the 17/2.8.

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Re: New Olympus 17mm 1.8
In reply to Brian Lavoie, 8 months ago

Absolutely agree. I have mine less than two months now and love it. In contrary to all the reviews out there, it's one of my sharpest lenses ever (corner to corner, wide open).

Beautiful picture.

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Landscape, Olympus 17mm 1.8
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from Iceland

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Ron Evers wrote:

dgrogers wrote:

Nice shot. In all honesty, I don't understand why some complain about this lens. It looks great to me.

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Methinks the complaints are for the 17/2.8.

There  has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

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There has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

I'm fairly certain a good percentage of these criticisms come from 20mm fanboys and review trollers who have never even used the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 and just like to pixel peep test charts from reviewers.

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Looks like my back yard this year...

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honeyiscool wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
There has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

I'm fairly certain a good percentage of these criticisms come from 20mm fanboys and review trollers who have never even used the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 and just like to pixel peep test charts from reviewers.

I'm not criticising this lens, merely pointing out that there has been criticism about it.

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A Tad Soft? OK!
In reply to honeyiscool, 8 months ago

honeyiscool wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
There has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

I'm fairly certain a good percentage of these criticisms come from 20mm fanboys and review trollers who have never even used the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 and just like to pixel peep test charts from reviewers.

I do find that the 17mm f/1.8 is a "tad soft," and that vignetting wide open is somewhat strong. But neither of these characteristics, alone, bothers me. To the contrary: I find the lens's overall render to be exceptionally pleasing and balanced--it's terrific!

Judging the look you get from lenses is at heart a subjective business. While you can objectively measure MTF characteristics, CA, vignetting, AF speed, and other aspects of lens performance, none of these objective measures directly answers the question, "Do you like the photographs you get?"  They may not even inform it, depending on your favored photographic subjects or tastes.

What's more, we all know lens designs are complex compromises of size, weight, material cost. There are fast 35mm-equivalent lenses in other systems--CaNikon, for example--that outperform the 17mm f/1.8; but geez, they're huge, cost four figures, and, in the Nikon system, focus as slow as a mollases drip! Even the wonderful Sigma 35mm f/1.4 "Art" lens for those systems costs twice as much as the Olympus and is four or five times larger.

So, the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 seems like a great design, to me--especially so at its recent $399 discounted price.

Honestly, I kind of like the 17mm f/2.8, too. Yeah, it doesn't set any performance records, either, but it's at least as good as anybody's kit lens, it has a metal bayonet, it's tiny, and it can be had for $150 or less. Again, it seems like a reasonable set of compromises, to me, for a very useful focal length and reasonably quick aperture at a very nice price.

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I like it! And I like the lens too. The Panasonic 20mm is maybe a bit sharper (based on my copy anyway) but it's a harsh kind of sharp. The 17mm makes a prettier picture. And you can stop it down further without the performance noticeably dropping off.

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honeyiscool wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
There has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

I'm fairly certain a good percentage of these criticisms come from 20mm fanboys and review trollers who have never even used the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 and just like to pixel peep test charts from reviewers.

I have one and it is not a stellar lens. Small and well build but by not as good as the Panasonic Leica 25mm.

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another one jpg straight from the camera.

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Sorry last pic was E-m5, f10, 1/400

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Re: A Tad Soft? OK!
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MarkJH wrote:

honeyiscool wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
There has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

I'm fairly certain a good percentage of these criticisms come from 20mm fanboys and review trollers who have never even used the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 and just like to pixel peep test charts from reviewers.

I do find that the 17mm f/1.8 is a "tad soft," and that vignetting wide open is somewhat strong. But neither of these characteristics, alone, bothers me. To the contrary: I find the lens's overall render to be exceptionally pleasing and balanced--it's terrific!

Judging the look you get from lenses is at heart a subjective business. While you can objectively measure MTF characteristics, CA, vignetting, AF speed, and other aspects of lens performance, none of these objective measures directly answers the question, "Do you like the photographs you get?" They may not even inform it, depending on your favored photographic subjects or tastes.

What's more, we all know lens designs are complex compromises of size, weight, material cost. There are fast 35mm-equivalent lenses in other systems--CaNikon, for example--that outperform the 17mm f/1.8; but geez, they're huge, cost four figures, and, in the Nikon system, focus as slow as a mollases drip! Even the wonderful Sigma 35mm f/1.4 "Art" lens for those systems costs twice as much as the Olympus and is four or five times larger.

So, the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 seems like a great design, to me--especially so at its recent $399 discounted price.

In Nikonland you can buy some cheap and smaller f/1.8 and f/2 versions, pretty decent lenses btw. I think these comparisons between brands are pointless, mostly. One can find excellent choices in most quarters. The expensive f/1.4 WA primes are specialty lenses actually.

Honestly, I kind of like the 17mm f/2.8, too. Yeah, it doesn't set any performance records, either, but it's at least as good as anybody's kit lens, it has a metal bayonet, it's tiny, and it can be had for $150 or less. Again, it seems like a reasonable set of compromises, to me, for a very useful focal length and reasonably quick aperture at a very nice price.

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Brian Lavoie wrote:

I love this lens, olympus has come up with a winner again.

I read a few negative things, but preferred it over a 20mm so I went for it.

I too am very happy with it, I took - THESE -  the morning I unboxed it.
It is a joy to use, but I got caught by the manual focus ring a few times at first.
Pull it back - poof - no AF at all.  Now I exclusively use the ring to set MF, never the camera setting.  
It is a brilliant idea that the "leaders" will have one day
Both lenses are sharp, but the 20mm is useless for MF.
Do you ever shoot by tapping the screen where you want to focus?
That's fast, too!

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honeyiscool wrote:

The Jacal wrote:
There has been plenty of criticism about the 1.8 too; being a tad soft.

I'm fairly certain a good percentage of these criticisms come from 20mm fanboys and review trollers who have never even used the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 and just like to pixel peep test charts from reviewers.

In what way does it matter who says something if what is being said is factually correct? And you don't need to use a lens in order to pass judgment on it. All you need is to look at images produced by it.

The 20/1.7 is sharper than the 17/1.8. That's a fact. Whether it's an important fact or not is a personal matter.

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dgrogers wrote:

Nice shot. In all honesty, I don't understand why some complain about this lens. It looks great to me.

Most complaints are from people who read the Lenstip review and never purchased or used the lens.

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I like mine.

When I don’t want to take the Leica or the Fuji X … then the GX7 or EM-5 with the 17mm f/1.8 is a very nice option.

Can’t say I’m a big fan of the 20mm f/1.7 at all; it’s technically competent but has a very sterile and uninteresting rendering. It was the second lens I got for M43 (after the PL 25mm f/1.4) and is one of only three lenses in my entire collection for which there are NO images hanging on my walls.

The other two are the 14-42 and 45-175mm X/PZ lenses.

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