Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are

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Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
Mar 4, 2014

This is well thought out and delves into what is sufficient-

http://ripecamera.blogspot.com/2014/03/all-cameras-are-better-than-you-are.html

Kirk's site-

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/03/important-announcement-from-ceo-of.html

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Thanks for an interesting read.

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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
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What's he got against photos of cats sleeping on carpets? 

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His attitude sucks.....
In reply to DaveLemi, Mar 4, 2014

DaveLemi wrote:

This is well thought out and delves into what is sufficient-

http://ripecamera.blogspot.com/2014/03/all-cameras-are-better-than-you-are.html

Kirk's site-

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/03/important-announcement-from-ceo-of.html

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Quote (re M4/3) " And while the adaptation rate in the U.S. (lower education standards than most of the rest of the world) has been slow many parts of the world are snapping them up and eroding market share of the conventional mirrored digital cameras."

I'm an Aussie (most intelligent species in the world!) and even I'm offended by his attitude.

Regards.... Guy

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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
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DaveLemi wrote:

This is well thought out and delves into what is sufficient-

http://ripecamera.blogspot.com/2014/03/all-cameras-are-better-than-you-are.html

Kirk's site-

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/03/important-announcement-from-ceo-of.html

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Who wants to work with a smart-arxe camera than can take better pictures than a trained professional photographer - ban automation and do away with auto and scene modes I say!

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So much to learn, so little time left to do it!

(its a F-arsei-cal  that I can't use the word "Smart-Arce" 'cos its considered rude and is banned - oh dear )

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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
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Very good article and so true. Thanks for posting the link.

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good read indeed...
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i'd bet Olympus let out a big sigh of "exxxxaaaaaccccttlyyyyy!!!!!!!!".

what i like the best about the article is that Kirk (unlike many other web 'experts') is well respected and his article, as true and merited as it is [pertaining to photographic gear], is undeniable to anyone.

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Paul Auclair wrote:

i'd bet Olympus let out a big sigh of "exxxxaaaaaccccttlyyyyy!!!!!!!!".

what i like the best about the article is that Kirk (unlike many other web 'experts') is well respected and his article, as true and merited as it is [pertaining to photographic gear], is undeniable to anyone.

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Kirk is a great photographer and a master at lighting. I don't want to speak for him, but I get the sense he tired of looking at pictures of poorly lit subjects and raves about high ISO performance.

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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
In reply to DaveLemi, Mar 4, 2014

Interesting read, though it is certainly only from his point of view.  He makes some sweeping statements and gets some things right while others he's off base in my opinion.

His overall point of cameras being good enough, though not valid for me personally, is true for many people I know that are casual shooters.

Cells phone sensors and images became good enough and the compact market has dried up.

APS-C based cameras became good enough and there is little incentive to switch (based on the casual Canon, Sony, and Nikon DX shooters that I know) to a new DSLR or to something like m43 (which I think Oly and Pany have not done nearly enough advertising here in the states to let most people know m43 even exists which has nothing to do with educational standards as the folks that I know who shoot APS-C DSLRs are certainly above average in eduction, affluence, etc.).

Consumers are both savvy and fickle at the same time.  Human nature is to both use what's good enough while at other times always strive for the best/latest - savvy and fickle for sure.

- J

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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
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I'll bet this won't go over well with the available darkness crowd on the Nikon FX forum, where they're competing to see who can take the best pics of speeding panthers in coal mines. Or, at least people and kittens in poorly-lit living rooms and mosh pits.

Heaven forbid they should put a flash on a Df or figure out that typical home lighting is meant to make the furniture look good, not the people.

We're not immune in this forum, either, as people ignore the inherent benefits of actual DOF on m43 and spend major dollars to get f/0.95 lenses that focus on just the front part of an eyeball.

By the way, I loved Kirk's mention of "New York lighting." That town has a lot of available darkness.

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Agree...All the cameras are better than I am.
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That is why I'm immune to GAS

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Re: Interesting article posted by Kirk Tuck...All the cameras are better than you are
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radsaq wrote:

What's he got against photos of cats sleeping on carpets?

Or puling little brats…

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Pretty sure that's just Kirk's sense of humor ;)
In reply to Guy Parsons, Mar 4, 2014

Although maybe there is a direct correlation between education rates and M4/3 adoption. Hmm…

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This is not a good time for a poll ...
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... on "How many cameras do you have?"

  • 1
  • 2
  • 5
  • more than 6
  • more than you have
  • none of your @%&! business!
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Ah - but HOW MUCH better? ;-) (nt)
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Why It’s Never Mattered That America’s Schools ‘Lag’ Behind Other Countries
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Guy Parsons wrote:

Quote (re M4/3) " And while the adaptation rate in the U.S. (lower education standards than most of the rest of the world) has been slow many parts of the world are snapping them up and eroding market share of the conventional mirrored digital cameras."

I'm an Aussie (most intelligent species in the world!) and even I'm offended by his attitude.

Guy, I am Canadian and I am also offended by his attitude. He has a right to his opinion and it does seem to be fashionable in the U.S. these days for those who want to appear hip to make deprecating comments about their country. This article gives a different take on it though:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/03/why-its-never-mattered-that-americas-schools-lag-behind-other-countries-2013-edition/

The United States has never ranked at the top of international education tests, since we began comparing countries in 1964, yet has been the dominant economic and innovative force in the world the entire time. Despite this fact, a popular annual education report has once again stoked fears of America's impending economic mediocrity with fresh stats on how far the U.S. “lags” behind the world in college attainment, pre-school enrollment, and high school graduation.

The reason for the apparent disconnect is because schools don't prepare students for the real world, so broad educational attainment will have a weak correlation with economic power. Research has consistently shown that on nearly every measure of education (instructional hours, class-size, enrollment, college preparation), what students learn in school does not translate into later life success. The United States has an abundance of the factors that likely do matter: access to the best immigrants, economic opportunity, and the best research facilities.

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Re: His attitude sucks.....
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facts is facts mate.

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Austin based advertising and portrait photographer, and author of the book series, Minimalist Lighting, and the books: Commercial Photographers Handbook, Photographic Lighting Equipment, and, LED Lighting for Digital Photographers. www.kirktuck.com

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Unnecessary....
In reply to Kirk Tuck, Mar 4, 2014

Kirk Tuck wrote:

facts is facts mate.

True, it is the truth, but it is unnecessary in the context.

The true reason why larger cameras to M4/3 are preferred in USA (and even now in China) is the common belief that "bigger is better" in those countries. It's zero to do with education standards.

Regards...... Guy

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All funny. Mostly all true.
In reply to morepix, Mar 4, 2014

Very entertaining article. Mostly true but the right gear makes it easier. For example, if you're shooting BIF then a body that can only AF using CDAF is a problem. But let's face it, Henri Cartier-Bresson managed great action images with a camera which today would have an unacceptable shutter lag.

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