New Quattro hands on video

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Lord metroid
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New Quattro hands on video
6 months ago

This time it is an english speakin man holding the camera and one can actually get a nice idea of the size of the camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7PsQhEO98

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Lord metroid wrote:

This time it is an english speakin man holding the camera and one can actually get a nice idea of the size of the camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7PsQhEO98

And a nice idea of his daftness.

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In reply to Laurence Matson, 6 months ago

Yes, indeed.

It is That Nikon guy which currently isn't That Nikon Guy anymore, but now a Canon guy.
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The video is best viewed muted. But other than that the grip looks to work well.
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By the looks of it quatro handles rather well.

And indeed you need to watch that video with muted sound.

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Why are folks so critical/cynical. This is the best view we've had so far. I've seen some of his other films-they are fine.

The design begs a swivel lens. Using all that real estate-make something useful of it.

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Why are folks so critical/cynical. This is the best view we've had so far. I've seen some of his other films-they are fine.

Because, in the age of the Internet, anyone can play the expert and, when not one, needs some pushback before repetition makes him one.

The design begs a swivel lens. Using all that real estate-make something useful of it.

Great idea! Make the camera even bigger so that the next babbler can complain about not even being able to get it into a mini camera bag. This camera is designed to be used with the right hand and at about eye level, with the LCD at a distance or with the viewfinder, proximate to the eye. Adding a swivel component will just make it bigger and heavier.

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Why are folks so critical/cynical.

Because nobody needs to see a guy, holding a camera and talking BS?

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Why are folks so critical/cynical. This is the best view we've had so far. I've seen some of his other films-they are fine.

In many internet forums, including this one, some people instead of attacking someone's mistakes or point of argument, decide it's best to attack the person directly. That doesn't make their case any stronger but I guess it must somehow feels better.

Now, in particular to branded forums, this attitude is often used by some people whenever they feel there is any remote attack on their favorite brand or favorite product..

For example- the guy in the video made the mistake of what the resolution really is (19.6MP), others may disagree with what he accurately said was interpolated for 39 or so MP, (though he may have missed on exactly the circumstances under which), and as a positive, he said that while he is not a fan of the physical design of the camera - should be hardly surprising to hear, many people are not so it's not like it's only him- he actually said he needs to wait until he sees the final image quality/output to pass judgement on the camera because to him final image quality is more important that some inconvenience in what he thinks the ergonomics have.

For someone who wants to try to be objective you may think the last sentence sounds like a fair statement. But that has to be ignored if you want to attack anything negative that may have been said- real or perceived, about the product if you blindly must think it has to be perfect.

The design begs a swivel lens. Using all that real estate-make something useful of it.

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Lord metroid wrote:

This time it is an english speakin man holding the camera and one can actually get a nice idea of the size of the camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7PsQhEO98

Looks good - I'll buy one.

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Gesture wrote:

Why are folks so critical/cynical. This is the best view we've had so far. I've seen some of his other films-they are fine.

In many internet forums, including this one, some people instead of attacking someone's mistakes or point of argument, decide it's best to attack the person directly. That doesn't make their case any stronger but I guess it must somehow feels better.

Now, in particular to branded forums, this attitude is often used by some people whenever they feel there is any remote attack on their favorite brand or favorite product..

For example- the guy in the video made the mistake of what the resolution really is (19.6MP), others may disagree with what he accurately said was interpolated for 39 or so MP, (though he may have missed on exactly the circumstances under which), and as a positive, he said that while he is not a fan of the physical design of the camera - should be hardly surprising to hear, many people are not so it's not like it's only him- he actually said he needs to wait until he sees the final image quality/output to pass judgement on the camera because to him final image quality is more important that some inconvenience in what he thinks the ergonomics have.

For someone who wants to try to be objective you may think the last sentence sounds like a fair statement. But that has to be ignored if you want to attack anything negative that may have been said- real or perceived, about the product if you blindly must think it has to be perfect.

No Ricardo. He is just someone mouthing off about something he did absolutely no research on and thus makes a fool of himself. If there is anything ad hominem in the criticism, it is self-adhominemism through stupidity.

I have watched plenty of these filmettes being made, and the key is to have a large piece of paper with some key talking points on it. This is what happens when even that minimum preparation is missing.

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Laurence Matson wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Gesture wrote:

Why are folks so critical/cynical. This is the best view we've had so far. I've seen some of his other films-they are fine.

In many internet forums, including this one, some people instead of attacking someone's mistakes or point of argument, decide it's best to attack the person directly. That doesn't make their case any stronger but I guess it must somehow feels better.

Now, in particular to branded forums, this attitude is often used by some people whenever they feel there is any remote attack on their favorite brand or favorite product..

For example- the guy in the video made the mistake of what the resolution really is (19.6MP), others may disagree with what he accurately said was interpolated for 39 or so MP, (though he may have missed on exactly the circumstances under which), and as a positive, he said that while he is not a fan of the physical design of the camera - should be hardly surprising to hear, many people are not so it's not like it's only him- he actually said he needs to wait until he sees the final image quality/output to pass judgement on the camera because to him final image quality is more important that some inconvenience in what he thinks the ergonomics have.

For someone who wants to try to be objective you may think the last sentence sounds like a fair statement. But that has to be ignored if you want to attack anything negative that may have been said- real or perceived, about the product if you blindly must think it has to be perfect.

No Ricardo. He is just someone mouthing off about something he did absolutely no research on and thus makes a fool of himself. If there is anything ad hominem in the criticism, it is self-adhominemism through stupidity.

I have watched plenty of these filmettes being made, and the key is to have a large piece of paper with some key talking points on it. This is what happens when even that minimum preparation is missing.

I agree with you is not exactly an in-depth analysis, but I think it's fair for him to say that he grabbed the camera and the shape/ergonomics gave him the impression that gave him.  I feel the reactions so far to the ergonomics have been all over the map (i.e. I see a mix of points in the video, some without much thought, some others I think are more valid- from the little points presented).

Looking forward to try it out for myself. When I look at it, I feel pretty neutral about it on first pass- seems to have the dials and buttons I want which is what I could without holding one probably say may be missing or not.   I actually like the design visually.

My only real concern on the physical design is size and how it would fit in a coat pocket.

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In reply to PrebenR, 6 months ago

Now why did I not take that warning at face value… but you're right: From what we see, that grip is doing a great job at being grippy in harsh conditions. It's still a big, big bugger of a camera. Or mayne it's me and I should get a bigger everyday bag.

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I was impressed...
In reply to Lord metroid, 6 months ago

He didn't drop it the way he was flippin it around- maybe Sigma should pee test these guys before they let them handle the merchandise

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Matt Granger made one spot on remark:  the new design will be judged by the image quality of he camera.   If the images turn out to be medium format quality . . . people will sing praises to the design.   If not . . . .

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At least it's in English, though it would have been nice if someone who already shoots Sigma could have reviewed it. We'll know more in a few months.

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Raist3d wrote:

Laurence Matson wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Gesture wrote:

Why are folks so critical/cynical. This is the best view we've had so far. I've seen some of his other films-they are fine.

In many internet forums, including this one, some people instead of attacking someone's ..................................................................................................................................oints on it. This is what happens when even that minimum preparation is missing.

I agree with you is not exactly an in-depth analysis, but I think it's fair for him to say that he grabbed the camera and the shape/ergonomics gave him the impression that gave him. I feel the reactions so far to the ergonomics have been all over the map (i.e. I see a mix of points in the video, some without much thought, some others I think are more valid- from the little points presented).

Looking forward to try it out for myself. When I look at it, I feel pretty neutral about it on first pass- seems to have the dials and buttons I want which is what I could without holding one probably say may be missing or not. I actually like the design visually.

My only real concern on the physical design is size and how it would fit in a coat pocket.

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I would not worry too much about size if i can fit dp2m with lensehood l-bracket nd grip in my pants pocket i think i can put quatro too. On another note looking how he was flipping camera around and it looked so natural ergonomics of that grip are pretty impressive. I could not have done that with my dp2m even with grip attached.

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Exactly.
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That's the whole point. With so much space, should quite well in the video, it could be a swivel design without being any larger.

The Nikon Coolpix 995 was a superb design that in many ways has never been equalled.

That extra space would also allow modules for many things: dual card slots; WiF; even an EVF.

I just feel the form factor and intended user group begs a lens swivel design and dual card slots—for starters.

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BarrytheB wrote:

He didn't drop it the way he was flippin it around- maybe Sigma should pee test these guys before they let them handle the merchandise

I was waiting for the guy to flip it up into the air like a juggler or band leader. I was deeply disappointed.

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