New G1X II Sample Images

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New G1X II Sample Images
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I looked but couldn't find this already posted. Please forgive (or delete) if this is a duplicate. I just ran across new sample photos added to the Canon USA site for the G1X II.

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/cameras/powershot/PS_G1X_Mark_II/sampleimg/original_sample_1.JPG

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/cameras/powershot/PS_G1X_Mark_II/sampleimg/original_sample_2.JPG

It's all coming together in bits and pieces -- still waiting for a PDF of the user manual to go over. On the one hand, I'm already tired of all the hype and discussion. On the other, it's a little like anticipating Christmas. Enjoy

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Still at ISO 100 only, darn.  Would appreciate a higher ISO.

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Agreed. My first impression was that Sample 1, identified as a shot in Background Defocus mode, is not really a good sample of that technology. Even a smaller sensor should be able to blur a background with that much separation from the subject. I'd say the samples release thus far do not represent significant "stress testing" of this camera. I'm still looking forward to full reviews in competent non-marketing hands, but still anxious and hopeful.

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requa wrote:

Agreed. My first impression was that Sample 1, identified as a shot in Background Defocus mode, is not really a good sample of that technology. Even a smaller sensor should be able to blur a background with that much separation from the subject.

Which smaller sensor camera are you thinking about? If the EXIFs are correct, that's a pretty good background blur given the focal distance (45 mm).

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Defocus Effect in first sample...
In reply to requa, 10 months ago

requa wrote:

I looked but couldn't find this already posted. Please forgive (or delete) if this is a duplicate. I just ran across new sample photos added to the Canon USA site for the G1X II.

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/cameras/powershot/PS_G1X_Mark_II/sampleimg/original_sample_1.JPG

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/cameras/powershot/PS_G1X_Mark_II/sampleimg/original_sample_2.JPG

It's all coming together in bits and pieces -- still waiting for a PDF of the user manual to go over. On the one hand, I'm already tired of all the hype and discussion. On the other, it's a little like anticipating Christmas. Enjoy

Dan

Interesting to see some examples of Background Defocus from this camera.  I experimented with this setting on another Canon cameras recently and have looked at samples from Sony.  I know they can't generate proper 'out of focus points of light' but cameras that can soften the backgrounds like this are probably going to become standard fare in the near future.
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I note again that the effect is not perfect.  If you look at the shoulder of the woman in the first pic, and again at the edges of her clothing, there's a ghosting artifact against the background.  I personally find this too noticeable (and almost a little concerning at the ISO used on these samples) but the overall effect is initially impressive at first glance and I can see it being a top selling feature.

Keep the samples coming as you find them.  I am very interested in seeing what this new camera can do.  This is what we'll be sitting with for the next year or two as Canon's top PowerShot so i'm following the details as they are released.

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In reply to requa, 10 months ago

Thanks for posting. The second image is at full wide as far as I can see from the exif. Corner sharpness seems to be really good.

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requa wrote:

Agreed. My first impression was that Sample 1, identified as a shot in Background Defocus mode, is not really a good sample of that technology. Even a smaller sensor should be able to blur a background with that much separation from the subject.

Which smaller sensor camera are you thinking about? If the EXIFs are correct, that's a pretty good background blur given the focal distance (45 mm).

I wasn't thinking of any specific camera. What I really meant, I guess, was that this camera, with its larger sensor and glass, should be able to produce comparable results without relying on electronic manipulation, and would thereby avoid the ghosting another poster pointed out above. What I'd really like to see is a set of two or more images taken with and without the Background Defocus mode to demonstrate how the camera performs each way. I guess that'll have to wait for full reviews.

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Look like a great camera for travel. I will definitely buy one to go along with my SL1.

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that would show most cameras off in a good light. That being said it certainly looks like it has a decent lens and sensor and is able to deliver excellent results, nothing to worry about from what I'm seeing anyway.

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Was a tripod used for shot #2?
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http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/cameras/powershot/PS_G1X_Mark_II/sampleimg/original_sample_2.JPG

The second image is fairly sharp across the entire frame.
But I notice the exposure was 0.3 seconds, probably because the aperture was set at f/6.3
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Any else think this a tripod was used?

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I bet a tripod is used. Not only that the image is very sharp for 0.3 s., but horizontal lines are indeed, very well aligned. Not so easy when hand-holding camera. Does this camera have a level function?

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why f/6.3? tripod for shot #2?
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I wonder if f/6.3 was chosen to maximize DOF. You would think that diffraction would start to be an issue at that aperture, but the architectural details are very sharp.

The EXIF maker notes say "Image Stabilization = 257." Do any Canon experts know what that means? You would think that the photographer would disable IS if on a tripod.

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http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/cameras/powershot/PS_G1X_Mark_II/sampleimg/original_sample_2.JPG

The second image is fairly sharp across the entire frame.
But I notice the exposure was 0.3 seconds, probably because the aperture was set at f/6.3. Any else think this a tripod was used?

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I wonder if f/6.3 was chosen to maximize DOF. You would think that diffraction would start to be an issue at that aperture, but the architectural details are very sharp.

The EXIF maker notes say "Image Stabilization = 257." Do any Canon experts know what that means? You would think that the photographer would disable IS if on a tripod.

Remember that this is a large sensor camera, just a little smaller than APS-c.  So diffraction does not start on this camera until about f11.  F16 would be well into the diffraction region, but f6.3 would not.  That would be just fine.

I wondered about the image stabilization also and do not know what 257 means. Perhaps it is some code?  Anyway, I believe that Canon's new IS designs automatically detect when the camera is on a tripod and adapt.  The IS system has become intelligent and can detect tripods, or panning motion, etc, and set itself to proper function.

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VaLeX wrote:

I bet a tripod is used. Not only that the image is very sharp for 0.3 s., but horizontal lines are indeed, very well aligned. Not so easy when hand-holding camera. Does this camera have a level function?

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G1X has a level function, I haven't seen any mention of it on the Mark II, either as retained or eliminated, but I can't see Canon removing a feature that doesn't add to the bulk. We'll know when we see a user's manual.

I would expect this shot to be on a tripod certainly. Perhaps the code mentioned in the EXIF data is the code signifying IS has been turned off due to a tripod mount, but this is purely guess-work.

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I don't remember which site I was on but it did show a video with the rear of the camera and it looked exactly like the G16 level.

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Canon UK website has some sample images too
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They have a wide range of ISO values and apertures, but are pretty much worthless since they are so small, but in case you want to look at them...

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_Camera/PowerShot/powershot_g1x_mark_ii/?WT.ac=SS_G1XMarkii_UK

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What exif veiwer are you using that digs that deep to IS?
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Just curious, could be helpful.

Thanks.

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phazelag wrote:

Just curious, could be helpful.

Thanks.

You can usually get pretty deep exit data from Lightroom,aperture, or even the preview app on macs.

For these photos, you don't need to bother, though. Canon posted detailed exif with the photos:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/digital_cameras/powershot_g1_x_mark_ii#SampleImages

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My KUSO Exif Viewer says: "Image Stabilization: Unknown (257)".

I think wich means: It is unknown if the IS was working.

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Dale Buhanan wrote:

CAcreeks wrote:

I wonder if f/6.3 was chosen to maximize DOF. You would think that diffraction would start to be an issue at that aperture, but the architectural details are very sharp.

The EXIF maker notes say "Image Stabilization = 257." Do any Canon experts know what that means? You would think that the photographer would disable IS if on a tripod.

Remember that this is a large sensor camera, just a little smaller than APS-c. So diffraction does not start on this camera until about f11. F16 would be well into the diffraction region, but f6.3 would not. That would be just fine.

That's just theory. The 15-85IS - which is a somewhat similar lens - already gets a bit soft at f/8 and by f/9 it goes rapidly downhill over most of the zoom range. I would not be surprised to see the same with this lens, but starting around f/6.3 already because of the slightly smaller sensor and larger maximum aperture (= peaks earlier).

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