Conspiracy theorists unite

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John_A_G
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Conspiracy theorists unite
5 months ago

A number of people in Pentax land have taken issue with my bashing the conspiracy theorists. It should warm your heart to know that you are not alone. The conspiracy is actually bigger than you think.  You now have company in Canon land.  It is confirmed that DPR not only conspires against Pentax, but also against Canon too.  The DPR conspiracy against specific manufacturers must be stopped.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53012682

John_A_G
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darn - one more
In reply to John_A_G, 5 months ago

Good news! Proof of the conspiracy continues:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52955874

We now know DPR is biased against Pentax, Canon AND Sony.

We probably need to launch a campaign to prevent this from spreading to Nikon, Oly, Panasonic before it's too late.

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PLZ

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PLZ

You do not believe DPR is biased?

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As a frequent visitor to Olympus and Samsung talk, some there feel the same too.  Looks like DPR have conspired against all.  Maybe the have the Syrian government syndrome?

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who cares, as long that the forum is okay

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Conspiracy is the wrong word. I think people are rightfully upset, not because of brand bias but DPR seemingly being less interested in serious cameras.  They're putting more and more effort into covering every entry level, point and shoot, camera phone, go pro release, and getting slower and slower with the high end of the market.  Are there really people who come here on a regular basis and get exited about the latest entry level camera?

There are also factors out of their hands, like Sony's barrage of camera releases. The market has sped up considerably and that requires DPR to make choices about what they focus on. They could hire more reviewers but that is also likely to be a mistake as everyone predicts the camera market to slow back down in the near term.

That aside I think its ridiculous to berate people for being upset about being ignored.  Clearly those people are already upset. Let them vent and go on about your business instead of riling them up further. Its not as if DPR really needs anyone here to defend them. They know they can't please everyone all the time, so I've no doubt they take the criticism in stride knowing they're just as likely to be praised tomorrow as reviled today.

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It's a visit-capture strategy, and entry-level (volume) brings visits
In reply to Eli Allan, 5 months ago

Eli Allan wrote:

Conspiracy is the wrong word. I think people are rightfully upset, not because of brand bias but DPR seemingly being less interested in serious cameras. They're putting more and more effort into covering every entry level, point and shoot, camera phone, go pro release, and getting slower and slower with the high end of the market. Are there really people who come here on a regular basis and get exited about the latest entry level camera?

Yes - or to be more accurate, a lot of folks looking for 'reviews' of such cameras wind up here via a web search - if such review exists.

There are many, many people buying the entry-level Canons and Nikons, and so there are many potential draws to the site as a result of these people searching for reviews. Dpreview has to be mindful of that, and providing those reviews right away just makes good business sense for an entity that derives income from clicks and visits.

No mystery, certainly no conspiracy.

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No conspiracy, just editorial bias.

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I'm 98% sure that the Lindbergh baby grew up, became a photography enthusiast, and is running DPR from deep inside the wreckage of a UFO at Area 51. He's also sitting on a completed Full Frame Pentax model that utilizes technology from the future that is capable of taking 75 mp shots in RAW+, with the + being a finished jpeg of what's simultaneously happening in an alternate universe (the fabled "wormhole" sensor.") He refuses to allow its release due to his obvious disdain for the brand. I'm 98% sure that I'm 103% correct on this one. Late night fake Caribbean TV psychic Cleo emailed me with the deets.

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Gary Martin wrote:

No conspiracy, just editorial bias.

You could actually say this ^^ is true, but what do you think is behind the bias?  Is it, "we don't like Pentax that much," or is it "we have to keep an eye on sales volumes and prioritize accordingly for our business model to work."  I think a lot of folks mistakenly think it's some version of the former.

I think the D4 review had a very long delay - not because the editorial staff didn't like it, but because other bodies that were going to see higher sales volumes (and generate review web searches) were out at the same time.

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moving_comfort wrote:

Eli Allan wrote:

Conspiracy is the wrong word. I think people are rightfully upset, not because of brand bias but DPR seemingly being less interested in serious cameras. They're putting more and more effort into covering every entry level, point and shoot, camera phone, go pro release, and getting slower and slower with the high end of the market. Are there really people who come here on a regular basis and get exited about the latest entry level camera?

Yes - or to be more accurate, a lot of folks looking for 'reviews' of such cameras wind up here via a web search - if such review exists.

There are many, many people buying the entry-level Canons and Nikons, and so there are many potential draws to the site as a result of these people searching for reviews. Dpreview has to be mindful of that, and providing those reviews right away just makes good business sense for an entity that derives income from clicks and visits.

No mystery, certainly no conspiracy.

Absolutely not - just the good old capitalist system at work. What was probably THE best camera/photography site IN THE WHOLE WORLD is gobbled up by the big corporation and changed - away from the (relatively) informative, cutting-edge review site (of cameras) it was, towards a sophisticated marketing tool. Personally I couldn't give a tinker's about DPReview's reviews. I stopped having much faith in them a LONG time ago. I simply drop in here to see if there's anything of interest being discussed and that's about it. Get out of the site what you can and ignore the crappola.

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John_A_G wrote:

A number of people in Pentax land have taken issue with my bashing the conspiracy theorists. It should warm your heart to know that you are not alone. The conspiracy is actually bigger than you think. You now have company in Canon land. It is confirmed that DPR not only conspires against Pentax, but also against Canon too. The DPR conspiracy against specific manufacturers must be stopped.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53012682

Unfortunately, conspiracy is not just a theory. It is reality. Men getting together to plot evil things is all too common in rea life.

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sgtsween wrote:

I'm 98% sure that the Lindbergh baby grew up, became a photography enthusiast, and is running DPR from deep inside the wreckage of a UFO at Area 51. He's also sitting on a completed Full Frame Pentax model that utilizes technology from the future that is capable of taking 75 mp shots in RAW+, with the + being a finished jpeg of what's simultaneously happening in an alternate universe

I KNEW IT!  Everyone, get in the bunker.  Bring the camera, no the one that says Pentax on the front.  I just read it on the internet. 

(the fabled "wormhole" sensor.") He refuses to allow its release due to his obvious disdain for the brand. I'm 98% sure that I'm 103% correct on this one. Late night fake Caribbean TV psychic Cleo emailed me with the deets.

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You need to grow up.

They do what makes them money. Quite normal. This site is not a charity for Pentax and others. Don't like it? Go.

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AJSAUco wrote:

You need to grow up.

They do what makes them money. Quite normal. This site is not a charity for Pentax and others. Don't like it? Go.

Satire much?

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emem wrote:

Absolutely not - just the good old capitalist system at work. What was probably THE best camera/photography site IN THE WHOLE WORLD is gobbled up by the big corporation and changed - away from the (relatively) informative, cutting-edge review site (of cameras) it was, towards a sophisticated marketing tool. Personally I couldn't give a tinker's about DPReview's reviews. I stopped having much faith in them a LONG time ago. I simply drop in here to see if there's anything of interest being discussed and that's about it. Get out of the site what you can and ignore the crappola.

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John_A_G wrote:

sleepwalker400 wrote:

PLZ

You do not believe DPR is biased?

Perhaps not. Perhaps it just NEEDS TO TAKE THE WORD "REVIEW" OUT OF IT'S NAME!!!

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A word is worth 1/1000th of a picture... Maybe that's why I use so many words!

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In reply to JeffAHayes, 5 months ago

Funny,

Go to DPR home page.

Press CTRL+F (or command+F on OSX) to find words on the page and type "Pentax".

It's not even spell once the the DPR home page...

Like Gary Martin says, there is no conspiracy, but a editor bias.

Regards,

Arno

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