Nikon Df Review Bombs...Kinda

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Robin Casady
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In reply to mailman88, Feb 18, 2014

He doesn't own a Nikon and regularly posts in the Canon forum.

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Re: The thing about the Df is
In reply to Iliah Borg, Feb 18, 2014

Iliah Borg wrote:

Primes are useless on my type of photography, which is event type.

Yes. Before zooms emerged event photography never existed.

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Not to the extent it is today.

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Re: The thing about the Df is
In reply to brianric, Feb 18, 2014

brianric wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Primes are useless on my type of photography, which is event type.

Yes. Before zooms emerged event photography never existed.

Not to the extent it is today.

Right. Sometimes much better.

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Re: Nikon Df Review Bombs...Kinda
In reply to mailman88, Feb 18, 2014

Jack of all trades, swiss army knifes, shine on mainstream blogs or with mainstream testers. The cameras I love and rate highest (and own) suck in such tests, icluding the Df, Sigma DP2Merrill, M9.

I couldn`t care less. jack of all trades and masters of none are not for me. Tried them (bought , tried sold), disliked them, incuding the overpriced "camera of the century" the EM-1 with its inferior sensor.

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Re: I can't help but snicker at these kinds of inane generalizations
In reply to Iliah Borg, Feb 18, 2014

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Yes, Df is attracting very little attention. Couple of times I was asked - are you still shooting film? Once I was asked to pull the film out.

Same happended to me when I tested the Df a couple of weeks ago. Some young people even seemed to be eager to be photographed by such an old cam

PS. Btw, I did those test shots on a Weihnachtsmarkt and ran out of time producing blown-out shots as intended.

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when is 5 of 5 stars a bomb?
In reply to mailman88, Feb 18, 2014

Surely there are better things to do with ones time then drumming up drama…speaking of which….

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Tony Beach
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Re: The thing about the Df is
In reply to brianric, Feb 18, 2014

brianric wrote:

...if you're using fast primes, why a Df?

DOF control?!?!?

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In reply to Tony Beach, Feb 18, 2014

Tony Beach wrote:

brianric wrote:

...if you're using fast primes, why a Df?

DOF control?!?!?

Also less flash power, especially when bouncing. And lower ISO when flash is forbidden.

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Re: The thing about the Df is
In reply to Iliah Borg, Feb 18, 2014

Iliah Borg wrote:

Tony Beach wrote:

brianric wrote:

...if you're using fast primes, why a Df?

DOF control?!?!?

Also less flash power, especially when bouncing. And lower ISO when flash is forbidden.

The Df is also the smallest DSLR one could use with a fast prime, so there's another reason to choose a Df.  I really don't get the either/or assumption underlying the question here, you can want fast primes and a Df, the idea that one negates the other strikes me as narrow-minded.

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In reply to Iliah Borg, Feb 18, 2014

Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

it only appeals to a very specific niche of people, well maybe two niches. One is those who like the cosmetic design and/or old school dials so much they are willing to pay a premium over the D610 to get them and the other is people who want the absolutely best sensor for high ISO shooting but can't or don't want to pay for a D4 and/or don't want to have to to lug such a large camera around. To those who dont' fall into those categories the Df is just an overpriced D610 with less features and a new set of clothes. In other words, pointless. To the people that do, especially the ones in the first category, it is the best Nikon camera ever. With such divergent, completely opposite, and emotionally charged opinions and no one really being able to see from or accept the other sides point of view it is no wonder there is so much angst surrounding the camera.

Ever tried to shoot with two D4 cameras because you have no time to change lenses? How's your neck?

No, however I did say not wanting to lug around D4s and still wanting the sensor was a reason people like the Df so I'm not sure why you are asking.

You said "large". That is not exactly the only problem. Another problem is heavy. Unnecessary heavy for many applications.

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LOL of course if a DSLR is larger it is also heavier compared to smaller ones. I didn't think I had the explicitly say so it is so obvious.  Especially since I used a term like "lug around" which implies it is heavy anyway.  Besides pretty Much anyone reading my post knows the D4 is heavier.  You are just hair splitting to a very silly degree.

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Re: The thing about the Df is
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LOL of course if a DSLR is larger it is also heavier compared to smaller ones

Depends on the materials used and battery.

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Tony Beach wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Tony Beach wrote:

brianric wrote:

...if you're using fast primes, why a Df?

I really don't get the either/or assumption underlying the question here, you can want fast primes and a Df, the idea that one negates the other strikes me as narrow-minded.

Same here.

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Iliah Borg wrote:

LOL of course if a DSLR is larger it is also heavier compared to smaller ones

Depends on the materials used and battery.

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LOL again you are just being silly. Sure hypothetically Nikon could make a DSLR that was smaller than a D4 but heavier but I am talking what exists in the real world not what is hypothetically possible.  Further we are discussing the D4 and the Df and as I said pretty much everyone on here knows the D4 is heavier so there was no reason to explicitly stat it when talking about the D4's larger size.  Besides my whole point was that it was less convenient and less easy to carry a D4 than it is a Df so you asking me if had had ever carried two D4s around as if trying to rebut the exact opposite opinion to the one I stated is still puzzling.

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Josh152 wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

LOL of course if a DSLR is larger it is also heavier compared to smaller ones

Depends on the materials used and battery.

LOL again you are just being silly.

And you being a judge. Reminds me of an old story about Paderewski.

But please continue.

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In reply to Robin Casady, Feb 19, 2014

Troll hey?....I'm the first to post this review, I believe. I'm a camera buff period and I like new gear.

Food for thought review and nothing else, with no other agenda.

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Tony Beach wrote:

brianric wrote:

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Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

LOL of course if a DSLR is larger it is also heavier compared to smaller ones

Depends on the materials used and battery.

LOL again you are just being silly.

And you being a judge. Reminds me of an old story about Paderewski.

But please continue.

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You mine one line you can snark about because you have no response to the rest of my post.  I can see now you are just the type that just has to have the last word and will keep going, even when you can't make any response to what I actually said about the topic at hand, in order to make it happen.  I suspect you just misread my op and this whole thing was you just trying to save face  instead of just admitting it and moving on.  So I see no reason to continue my end of this "discussion".

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Re: The thing about the Df is
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Josh152 wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

Josh152 wrote:

Iliah Borg wrote:

LOL of course if a DSLR is larger it is also heavier compared to smaller ones

Depends on the materials used and battery.

LOL again you are just being silly.

And you being a judge. Reminds me of an old story about Paderewski.

But please continue.

You mine one line you can snark about because you have no response to the rest of my post. I can see now you are just the type that just has to have the last word and will keep going, even when you can't make any response to what I actually said about the topic at hand, in order to make it happen. I suspect you just misread my op and this whole thing was you just trying to save face instead of just admitting it and moving on. So I see no reason to continue my end of this "discussion".

A seasoned photographer knows the difference between size and weight of the equipment. Df weight warrants a distinct and special mention. Df being a very capable yet stealth dSLR also merits a special mention. Your attempts of classification of people (you call it op?) are what mean is. But I do not care.

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