Nikon 18-300 mm on D600

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Nikon 18-300 mm on D600
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Is it my lens or me.  The arrow or the Indian.  I have an 18-300 mm lens that takes great pics at certain photo lengths.  From 18 to about 220 the photos are crisp, clear and I am very pleased with them.  But from 220 - 300 not so much.  I even tried a tripod and made sure my shutter speed was way up.  Still cloudy and not crisp photos.  Any thoughts.

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Condor60 wrote:

Is it my lens or me. The arrow or the Indian. I have an 18-300 mm lens that takes great pics at certain photo lengths. From 18 to about 220 the photos are crisp, clear and I am very pleased with them. But from 220 - 300 not so much. I even tried a tripod and made sure my shutter speed was way up. Still cloudy and not crisp photos. Any thoughts.

There are a few problems here....

First of all, the 18-300 is a DX lens.  This means that when shooting it on a 24MP D600 you are only using the central ~10MP.  You would have been better off spending half as much money on a D7100, which is a better camera overall when compared to the D600 other than the sensor itself (and when you are using crop mode on the D600, the 7100's sensor is much better).

Second, super zooms like the 18-300 are not great at the extremes.  You will see sharper images with a dedicated telephoto such as the 70-300 (or better yet, a 70-200).  To get the best images out of the super zoom as you can, you will want to stop down to f/9 or f/10 or so.

If you want a superzoom, the 28-300 is an FX lens that will take full advantage of the D600.  Alternatively, the 24-120/4 is reportedly a good FX lens.

Hope this helps.

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Condor60 wrote:

Is it my lens or me. The arrow or the Indian. I have an 18-300 mm lens that takes great pics at certain photo lengths. From 18 to about 220 the photos are crisp, clear and I am very pleased with them. But from 220 - 300 not so much. I even tried a tripod and made sure my shutter speed was way up. Still cloudy and not crisp photos. Any thoughts.

There are a few problems here....

First of all, the 18-300 is a DX lens. This means that when shooting it on a 24MP D600 you are only using the central ~10MP. You would have been better off spending half as much money on a D7100, which is a better camera overall when compared to the D600 other than the sensor itself (and when you are using crop mode on the D600, the 7100's sensor is much better).

Second, super zooms like the 18-300 are not great at the extremes. You will see sharper images with a dedicated telephoto such as the 70-300 (or better yet, a 70-200). To get the best images out of the super zoom as you can, you will want to stop down to f/9 or f/10 or so.

If you want a superzoom, the 28-300 is an FX lens that will take full advantage of the D600. Alternatively, the 24-120/4 is reportedly a good FX lens.

Hope this helps.

Saying the D7100 is a better camera than the D600 is just dumb. Stop down to F9 or 10? have you even used the 28-300? You should at least have experience in the equipment you are talking about before you go giving advice....

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Re: Nikon 18-300 mm on D600
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Condor60 wrote:

Is it my lens or me. The arrow or the Indian. I have an 18-300 mm lens that takes great pics at certain photo lengths. From 18 to about 220 the photos are crisp, clear and I am very pleased with them. But from 220 - 300 not so much. I even tried a tripod and made sure my shutter speed was way up. Still cloudy and not crisp photos. Any thoughts.

You need to stop the lens down further as you zoom towards the top end. For instance, if shooting at max zoom (300mm) you should stop the aperture down at least two stops to get decent IQ. You can't expect great quality from a superzoom wide open, especially at the extremes of the  zoom range.

Btw, as already mentioned, that is the wrong lens for the camera. Get the 28-300mm FX lens instead. I've got one and  I like it a lot, but I know it's limits.

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Condor60 wrote:

Is it my lens or me. The arrow or the Indian. I have an 18-300 mm lens that takes great pics at certain photo lengths. From 18 to about 220 the photos are crisp, clear and I am very pleased with them. But from 220 - 300 not so much. I even tried a tripod and made sure my shutter speed was way up. Still cloudy and not crisp photos. Any thoughts.

Most of the non-pro telephoto lens get softer as you get to the higher telephoto lengths. It is fairly typical for any x-300 to get softer from 220 upwards. Shooting at f8 should alleviate this but you'll never get pixel peeping sharpness.

High shutter speeds make no difference on a tripod unless the subject is moving, what you need is an aperture of f8 or smaller.

Sorry but this is typical for this type of lens, there is probably nothing wrong with it.

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Re: Nikon 18-300 mm on D600
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Sorry my mistake it is a 28-300 mm that came in the kit.

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Saying the D7100 is a better camera than the D600 is just dumb. Stop down to F9 or 10? have you even used the 28-300? You should at least have experience in the equipment you are talking about before you go giving advice....

Read the OP's post before you throw stones.  He said 18-300, not 28-300.  And yes, for super zooms, you want to stop down for maximum sharpness.

And yes, the 7100 is a better camera than the 600 for everything other than the sensor.  Saying otherwise is just dumb.  If he has the 18-300 (which is a DX lens), he is far better off with the 7100.

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Condor60 wrote:

Sorry my mistake it is a 28-300 mm that came in the kit.

Well that makes more sense.  Ignore my statements about DX lens on an FX body.  However, my statements about stopping down still apply: if you want maximum sharpness at the telephoto side, you will need to stop down a few stops.  Experiment to see exactly where things are best on your lens, but f/9 is probably a decent place to start.

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Condor60 wrote:

Is it my lens or me. The arrow or the Indian. I have an 18-300 mm lens that takes great pics at certain photo lengths. From 18 to about 220 the photos are crisp, clear and I am very pleased with them. But from 220 - 300 not so much. I even tried a tripod and made sure my shutter speed was way up. Still cloudy and not crisp photos. Any thoughts.

Most of the non-pro telephoto lens get softer as you get to the higher telephoto lengths. It is fairly typical for any x-300 to get softer from 220 upwards. Shooting at f8 should alleviate this but you'll never get pixel peeping sharpness.

High shutter speeds make no difference on a tripod unless the subject is moving, what you need is an aperture of f8 or smaller.

Sorry but this is typical for this type of lens, there is probably nothing wrong with it.

My comments still stand for 28-300

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