The Quattro is Ugly

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Re: The Quattro is Ugly
In reply to mike earussi, 7 months ago

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and very large, so large in fact that I don't see the point of its existence. If I'm going to shoot a large camera I'd prefer a full fledged dslr with interchangeable lenses. But as an attention getter for free PR it's great. But if the resolution comes close to a D800E then it sell.

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Here is an example of such blatant trolling that it is a wonder the moderator has not deleted the whole thread!

Oh the affrontery, the sheer disregard for the hardworking Sigma innovators, the obvious hostility to all that is new!

Of course I agree with you: it's ugly.  A brick would look better.

Maybe there is some technical reason why it has that shape.  Maybe Sigma discovered something important while cranking out DPxMs.

I'm edging closer and closer to pulling out the plastic for a DP3M even though I already have a SD1.  Sort of a "when the new stuff comes out hurry up and buy the old stuff" reaction.

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In reply to SandyF, 7 months ago

Or for the people who want to carry the camera with them. The DP line promised Medium format photography in a compact camera. This is not a compact camera!

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Or for the people who want to carry the camera with them. The DP line promised Medium format photography in a compact camera. This is not a compact camera!

This is a situation where a lady's purse is an advantage, LOL. Mine is always large enough for a compact camera.... just not the 5DII LOL.

But seriously, in real life, I usually carry my DP2Merrill in a separate small bag anyway... with extra batteries, flash attachment and couple filters (UV and Circ Polarizer). With a couple accessories, such as filters, it's easy to pass the 'put in pocket' stage.

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Re: The Quattro is Ugly
In reply to PrebenR, 7 months ago

PrebenR wrote:

mike earussi wrote:

and very large, so large in fact that I don't see the point of its existence. If I'm going to shoot a large camera I'd prefer a full fledged dslr with interchangeable lenses. But as an attention getter for free PR it's great. But if the resolution comes close to a D800E then it sell.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#532,291.399,ha,t

http://camerasize.com/compact/#291.399,532,wa,b

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Lord metroid wrote:

...The DP line promised Medium format photography in a compact camera. This is not a compact camera!

...it is ! Compared to medium format 

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Re: The Quattro is Ugly
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PrebenR wrote:

mike earussi wrote:

and very large, so large in fact that I don't see the point of its existence. If I'm going to shoot a large camera I'd prefer a full fledged dslr with interchangeable lenses. But as an attention getter for free PR it's great. But if the resolution comes close to a D800E then it sell.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#532,291.399,ha,t

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No thank you. Nex camera is a study in ugly design. Besides the grip is hopelessly bad
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I am very interested in the DP2 Quattro and I will always take performance and function over looks and style, but really? I just checked it out on http://camerasize.com/compact/#456,454,534,532,ha,t

and it is quite repulsive to me. Anyone else? It wont stop me from buying it as long as it lives up to what I think it will.

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Re: I actually think the design is visually very good
In reply to Raist3d, 7 months ago

Unless a viewfinder is being used, I think most people will imagine it's a smart phone or tablet of some kind with a case. So it could be unobtrusive.

With that shape and real estate, I would have made the lens swivel a la Coolpix 990/995 or made it with a true 16:9 dimension sensor and LCD.  Also begs an even wider lens.

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Na und?

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Unless a viewfinder is being used, I think most people will imagine it's a smart phone or tablet of some kind with a case. So it could be unobtrusive.

*Very good point*  There's still a certain eb & flow that camera-too, photographer, and subject do in a street dance for those kind of shots but your observation makes for some interesting situations where I can see what you are saying.

With that shape and real estate, I would have made the lens swivel a la Coolpix 990/995 or made it with a true 16:9 dimension sensor and LCD. Also begs an even wider lens.

What was that other camera... the Agfa digitals from the past? I forgot.

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Re: I actually think the design is visually very good
In reply to D Cox, 7 months ago

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Raist3d wrote:

my concern is usability and size. The usability i will have to play with one. The size applying specifically to me for street life work.

The usability will be limited by the lack of a hinge on the LCD.

I don't see the size being a major issue for a landscape or portrait photographer.

Although I have to hold it and even walk around with one to see how this feels- strangely enough because it's all black without major marks in the front, I get the impression it will not draw on the streets as much attention from people as I would have first thought- but I will only know when I hold one.

This to me is key because I do not want to draw attention for street work.

This is where the waist-level viewing of a hinged LCD helps.

All that said, I really think the design visually is pretty interesting and in person as it will be "smaller than what it seems in these shots" it will have a certain aspect of cool.

I like the design visually because it does not look to me gimmicky or cheesy. It looks like mixing style with some future while keeping a certain respect to "camera tool." I like that.

I think it looks OK, but nothing special. It doesn't have the class of the best Leicas.

Well I think some of the "class" usually comes with price due to materials and other physical designs that cost more. I think at the price level I am expecting it to be it looks pretty interesting.

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Re: The Quattro is Ugly
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Tom Schum wrote:

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Of course I agree with you: it's ugly. A brick would look better.

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It´s not ugly. It might look different and new, but it also can turn out that it is a very pragmatic and practicle design, very comfortable to hold and play with.

I´d prefere to see it in the real world and hold it in my hands before taking some justice.

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In reply to Raist3d, 7 months ago

When I have been in public settings, I find a distinct camera can be questioned, while no one pays much heed to folks taking photos with their iPhones, etc.

A few early digitals, Coolpix 900/990/995, some Ricoh and Casino cameras had shapes more like the Quattro. As someone mentioned, the basic box looks a lot like the movie-size candy boxes we have in the US.

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The core minimalist shell is very much like the latest from Sony and Samsung. There is nothing exceptional here, just some questionable choices.

For right-handers, the hand will probably adjust to that grip, but a forward projecting grip, as camera after camera has, is simply more comfortable and balances the thumb with the fingers. I wish Sigma had really thought modular: lenses; multiple grips; add-ons for EVF, remote; swivel capability, etc.

There's a lot of potential in making the camera longer, but this design doesn't realize them.

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I do not know it grows on me.

Anyhow i can't afford one.

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I am very interested in the DP2 Quattro and I will always take performance and function over looks and style, but really? I just checked it out on http://camerasize.com/compact/#456,454,534,532,ha,t

and it is quite repulsive to me. Anyone else? It wont stop me from buying it as long as it lives up to what I think it will.

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really has little relevance to equipment in my opinion. Function is important in a camera. Unless the camera is to be the subject of your photographic efforts rather than the object with which you ply your trade, beauty is irrelevant. Does it deliver the goods and make beautiful images? Does it have the necessary features to make the photographer's job easier? These are important in my opinion. Beauty? Not so much.

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I find the DP2Q better looking than the other cameras you linked to.
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PrebenR wrote:

mike earussi wrote:

and very large, so large in fact that I don't see the point of its existence. If I'm going to shoot a large camera I'd prefer a full fledged dslr with interchangeable lenses. But as an attention getter for free PR it's great. But if the resolution comes close to a D800E then it sell.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#532,291.399,ha,t

http://camerasize.com/compact/#291.399,532,wa,b

Just because many cameras have the Front Lump, does not make it pretty.  I always thought it was kind of an ugly thing on a camera myself, just somewhat practical as it provides grip.

Sigma just has a different way to do a grip; honestly from the comparison links you posted the DP2Q looks more appealing to me.  Especially being thinner, the DP2Q looks like a gazelle compared to the hippopotamuses other cameras have become.

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Re: I actually think the design is visually very good
In reply to D Cox, 7 months ago

D Cox wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

my concern is usability and size. The usability i will have to play with one. The size applying specifically to me for street life work.

The usability will be limited by the lack of a hinge on the LCD.

I don't see the size being a major issue for a landscape or portrait photographer.

Although I have to hold it and even walk around with one to see how this feels- strangely enough because it's all black without major marks in the front, I get the impression it will not draw on the streets as much attention from people as I would have first thought- but I will only know when I hold one.

This to me is key because I do not want to draw attention for street work.

This is where the waist-level viewing of a hinged LCD helps.

Waist-level street photography ?

All that said, I really think the design visually is pretty interesting and in person as it will be "smaller than what it seems in these shots" it will have a certain aspect of cool.

I like the design visually because it does not look to me gimmicky or cheesy. It looks like mixing style with some future while keeping a certain respect to "camera tool." I like that.

I think it looks OK, but nothing special. It doesn't have the class of the best Leicas.

Neither does it have the price tag of the Leica or the sub par IQ.

On the other hand Leica doesn't have the class of a Hasselblad 503 CW either

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really has little relevance to equipment in my opinion. Function is important in a camera. Unless the camera is to be the subject of your photographic efforts rather than the object with which you ply your trade, beauty is irrelevant. Does it deliver the goods and make beautiful images? Does it have the necessary features to make the photographer's job easier? These are important in my opinion. Beauty? Not so much.

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