Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)

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Michael Jardine
Michael Jardine Senior Member • Posts: 1,432
Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)
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Which of these four Photos were taken with a D800?

The two cameras I used are a D800 (70-200 VRII at 160mm and f/3.2 on the tele, 16-40 f/4 at f/8.0 and 24mm on the wide); E-M1 (75mm f/1.8 at f/3.2 on the tele, 12-40 f/2.8 at 12mm on the wide).

Photo A

Photo B

Photo C

Photo D

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A and C
19.3% 11  votes
A and D
59.6% 34  votes
B and C
15.8% 9  votes
B and D
5.3% 3  votes
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Nexu1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,593
Re: Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)
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I really believe this is a horrible test.

That said, there is a very clear noise difference in photo's A&B.  A is much cleaner.  If A isn't the D800 then there's a conspiracy

Scott McMorrow Regular Member • Posts: 366
Really pretty easy

All you have to do is look at the noise.  D800 has more fine grained noise.

wasserball Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Re: Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)
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Nexu1 wrote:

I really believe this is a horrible test.

That said, there is a very clear noise difference in photo's A&B. A is much cleaner. If A isn't the D800 then there's a conspiracy

I think it is legitimate.  This is how we use our cameras in the real world.  Take your pick and shut up.  To me, I don't care.  I have neither cameras.  I shoot with what I have and I am OK with the way the photos turn out.

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adhall Regular Member • Posts: 375
Re: Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)

wasserball wrote:

Nexu1 wrote:

I really believe this is a horrible test.

That said, there is a very clear noise difference in photo's A&B. A is much cleaner. If A isn't the D800 then there's a conspiracy

I think it is legitimate. This is how we use our cameras in the real world. Take your pick and shut up. To me, I don't care. I have neither cameras. I shoot with what I have and I am OK with the way the photos turn out.

I don't think it's legitimate, because I don't think all the files have been processed to their full potential... That's what happens in the real world.

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Michael Jardine
Michael Jardine OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,432
Re: Really pretty easy

Scott McMorrow wrote:

All you have to do is look at the noise. D800 has more fine grained noise.

In that case, which is the D800?

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StillLearning
StillLearning Veteran Member • Posts: 3,310
Re: Really pretty easy

Michael Jardine wrote:

Scott McMorrow wrote:

All you have to do is look at the noise. D800 has more fine grained noise.

In that case, which is the D800?

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If what he says is true then B and C would be the D800.

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yray
yray Senior Member • Posts: 1,489
Re: Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)
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What is this supposed to prove? that not every picture taken by the D800 is amazing? I thought we already suspected that.

Eric RG Junior Member • Posts: 33
Re: Which of these pictures was taken with which camera? :)

Tough to say with this type of pic, I'll bite, A+C is the D800.

Robin Casady Forum Pro • Posts: 12,898
Are you just here to exploit us for your blog?
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Are you going to post the results here? Or, are you just mining data for your blog? I see you have written an article saying that you don't see much difference between the D800 and your 4/3 camera.

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Michael Jardine
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A and D are the D800
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fPrime
fPrime Senior Member • Posts: 1,033
Re: A and D are the D800
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Michael Jardine wrote:

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Yipee, the power of Nikon vs. Oly color rendition... I think I was the first to make this call!  What did win, haha?

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Astrophotographer 10 Senior Member • Posts: 6,685
Re: A and D are the D800
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I would've picked A and D based on B and C are a lot noisier at 100%.

Still fairly close overall.

I think the point is while we agonise over minute differences in our cameras they all are pretty hot these days. Its a super competitive market so they have to be if they want to survive.

Greg.

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Lance B Forum Pro • Posts: 29,027
Re: A and D are the D800
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Michael Jardine wrote:

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Well, there you go. I was right and right for what seems to be the right reasons.

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Michael Jardine
Michael Jardine OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,432
Re: A and D are the D800
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Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

I would've picked A and D based on B and C are a lot noisier at 100%.

Still fairly close overall.

I think the point is while we agonise over minute differences in our cameras they all are pretty hot these days. Its a super competitive market so they have to be if they want to survive.

Greg.

In my opinion, it matters less what the pixel peeping tells you, and more what (as one of our other forum posters suggested) the thumbnail tells you.  And to me, that's less a function of the inside of the camera, and more a function of both the photographer, AND the 'outside' of the camera.  By this I mean, if the camera FEELS GOOD in your hands, and its controls seem intuitive to YOU, and if it's a camera that you will enjoy taking with you everywhere you'll go - then you are bound to take better photos with it.

Forget the pixels.

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Alan Brown
Alan Brown Veteran Member • Posts: 4,676
agree..

Michael Jardine wrote:

Astrophotographer 10 wrote:

I would've picked A and D based on B and C are a lot noisier at 100%.

Still fairly close overall.

I think the point is while we agonise over minute differences in our cameras they all are pretty hot these days. Its a super competitive market so they have to be if they want to survive.

Greg.

In my opinion, it matters less what the pixel peeping tells you, and more what (as one of our other forum posters suggested) the thumbnail tells you. And to me, that's less a function of the inside of the camera, and more a function of both the photographer, AND the 'outside' of the camera. By this I mean, if the camera FEELS GOOD in your hands, and its controls seem intuitive to YOU, and if it's a camera that you will enjoy taking with you everywhere you'll go - then you are bound to take better photos with it.

Forget the pixels.

I put the  composition above gear any day. I know an artist friend of the family. She is happy to use any point and shoot camera; is not bothered with the tech specs and doesn't WANT to know or learn them. Her shots are amazing.. she sees things instinctively.

Sure she could produce better prints with better cameras.. but they would get in her way.., she is 78 BTW and beyond gear talk.

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There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.' :'!':

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Chengis Forum Member • Posts: 52
Re: A and D are the D800
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I do not believe it when someone says it does not matter what camera you use. Such statements are philosophical views rather than actual reality. Ya you can make art with Holga but... photography is not just art it is also science for many who practice it. Even without clicking on the images one can see that A and D have more DR than B and C.

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keaggy220 Regular Member • Posts: 281
Re: A and D are the D800

Both are great cameras, however the D800 holds the highlights better in both photos.

Michael Jardine
Michael Jardine OP Senior Member • Posts: 1,432
Re: A and D are the D800
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keaggy220 wrote:

Both are great cameras, however the D800 holds the highlights better in both photos.

Excellent comments but I find that the comments made after the cameras have been revealed are not quite as revealing - so to speak - as the comment made before they were revealed.  The purpose of this photo comparison was not to re-hash over what has been said so many times in this forum; it was to try to elicit some impressions that are completely unbiased.  I also admit that reducing the resolution of the FF photos to that of the M43 could have caused some issues, not because the resolution was lower, but because of the compression used by LR. But what do I know?  I'm just here to learn.

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Liviu Namolovan Contributing Member • Posts: 566
Re: Voted. Thank you.
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I've really enjoyed your posts. Nice idea. It was fun to vote also. Other than that... A lot of energy to prove that for a limited number of made up situations m4/3 can replicate the results from a D800. O.K. You've made your point. But.... For a lot more occasions, FF willl utterly destroy m4/3 with ease when it's about the important things: smoothness and rich tones/colors. In the end that's all that matters. The larger the recording medium, the better the results. Easy. MF is too expensive and cumbersome to use, so FF is the best bet. For me, of course. Thank you.

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