Selling the XE2 way too slow for me.

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Segaman
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Selling the XE2 way too slow for me.
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Going back to dslr, this camera is way too slow for shooting, unless you take a turtle doing a slow motion dance.
I will try to find something small that can do faster shooting.
Not sure what.....yet

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viking79
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Segaman wrote:

Going back to dslr, this camera is way too slow for shooting, unless you take a turtle doing a slow motion dance.
I will try to find something small that can do faster shooting.
Not sure what.....yet

What is slow about it?

What are you trying to photograph?

What lens are you using?

I see plenty of people taking superb pictures with the X-E2 so it can't be too slow for taking pictures.

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deednets Veteran Member • Posts: 4,674
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Segaman wrote:

Going back to dslr, this camera is way too slow for shooting, unless you take a turtle doing a slow motion dance.
I will try to find something small that can do faster shooting.
Not sure what.....yet

What exactly is your point?

There is always a tool for you, I guess, but why share this "I think the camera sucks" on the Fuji forum?

Good luck! I certainly won't miss you! Not because of what yoru wrote (I don't actually care about your motives) but your style.

Turtle? Mhhh .. the world sadly is full of unhappy people!

All the best!

Deed

pluton Senior Member • Posts: 2,776
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I feel the same way about my XE1.  The effective shutter lag and slow cycling make it feel slower than a hand-cranked Leica.  Maybe someday Fuji'll make a "pro" camera that is responsive.

Until then, I consider it a really sophisticated point and shoot.

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John Carson Veteran Member • Posts: 4,207
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pluton wrote:

I feel the same way about my XE1. The effective shutter lag and slow cycling make it feel slower than a hand-cranked Leica. Maybe someday Fuji'll make a "pro" camera that is responsive.

Until then, I consider it a really sophisticated point and shoot.

Do you know what a point and shoot is? It is a camera that you operate by pointing and shooting. The X-E1 certainly isn't that.

Here is a suggestion. How about considering it as a sophisticated camera with slower-than-DSLR autofocusing.

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gotompoes Regular Member • Posts: 450
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Sold the XE 1 for the same reason and did assume that the XE 2 has faster AF.
Hope that the X T1 will have fast AF close to the Olympus E M1. Look forward to the reviews on this point. If that is the case then i will sell my M4/3 gear to get rid of the shutter shock issues.

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dotborg Veteran Member • Posts: 8,250
Re: Selling the XE2 way too slow for me.

John Carson wrote:

pluton wrote:

I feel the same way about my XE1. The effective shutter lag and slow cycling make it feel slower than a hand-cranked Leica. Maybe someday Fuji'll make a "pro" camera that is responsive.

Until then, I consider it a really sophisticated point and shoot.

Do you know what a point and shoot is? It is a camera that you operate by pointing and shooting. The X-E1 certainly isn't that.

Yes, for the X-E1 it's more like aiming and pressing the shutter release. 

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Segaman wrote:

Going back to dslr, this camera is way too slow for shooting, unless you take a turtle doing a slow motion dance.
I will try to find something small that can do faster shooting.
Not sure what.....yet

Soon after getting my X-E2, I did a quick test in a local bar to see how it performed in tight, close up situations, where speed of operation is essential.  I wanted to see if the E2 could perform like my GRD can, and how quickly accurate focus could be acquired. I was about 6ft from these guys, and as you can probably tell, they weren't the sort to patiently wait for a "slow" camera to take a shot, or for me to check settings ...

These snaps were taken in fractions of a second, from raising the camera, to viewing the LCD, to walking away ... OK it may not be as quick in operation for certain subjects as my DSLR, but just like any camera, if you understand how to anticipate and use the E2 it is plenty quick enough ....

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Segaman
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pluton wrote:

I feel the same way about my XE1. The effective shutter lag and slow cycling make it feel slower than a hand-cranked Leica. Maybe someday Fuji'll make a "pro" camera that is responsive.

i agree, there is a big hype about the af, but actually taking the pic there is a world of difference, yes its a real fast af, but the lag kills it in a lot of situations, i would get the same camera with a mirror.

Until then, I consider it a really sophisticated point and shoot.

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Segaman
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CeleryBeats wrote:

Try before you buy, and bye

I did try, before i buy.....and after, now someone else will have fun with it, not me.still like a few things bout it.

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Red5TX
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Lol, I've never understood the point of these posts. It'd be like me going into the Nikon forum and announcing I was selling my D7100 because it's too big and heavy.  Master of the Obvious.

57LowRider Senior Member • Posts: 3,748
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That's a very impressive lack of noise for 12800.

Maybe my X-E1 is a substitute for a hand-cranked Leica (like an M6 I still desire but can't really justify buying); plenty of people took great shots with those. A lot depends on what the user brings to the camera and working with it rather than against it. I look at it this way: I first got seriously interested in photography in the mid-70s, a Zorki 4 was all I could afford and I did ok with it. I would have sold my soul for the capabilities of an X-E1 back then; I think anyone would.

It's all about context.

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afragisk Senior Member • Posts: 1,291
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I know precisely what the OP is saying. You do lose the facial expression of a toddler sometimes, or its posture while moving around. Ok, nothing new or to debate against. I think the misunderstanding is in the words "too slow" and "for me". I get an 80% success ratio in capturing the exact moment with my 4yr old active child and that's not too slow, for me though. My dslr gave me 90%. Manual focusing gives me 70%. I'm quite happy with these figures but I would also keep an eye for lower shutter lag on the XE3. I can't think of many other applications this camera would be too slow except sports.
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Segaman
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afragisk wrote:

I know precisely what the OP is saying. You do lose the facial expression of a toddler sometimes, or its posture while moving around. Ok, nothing new or to debate against. I think the misunderstanding is in the words "too slow" and "for me". I get an 80% success ratio in capturing the exact moment with my 4yr old active child and that's not too slow, for me though. My dslr gave me 90%. Manual focusing gives me 70%. I'm quite happy with these figures but I would also keep an eye for lower shutter lag on the XE3. I can't think of many other applications this camera would be too slow except sports.
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I don't get your ratio, far from it, specially if someone moves a little the camera is acting funny in the process of refocusing.

I'm not really complaining about the camera, just the lag that kills it for me.

If I don't find a buyer, I won't die, I'll keep it......I still love other aspects of it and if I can sell it, i'll see about getting another compact.....or a ultra compact

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Red5TX wrote:

Lol, I've never understood the point of these posts. It'd be like me going into the Nikon forum and announcing I was selling my D7100 because it's too big and heavy. Master of the Obvious.

Maybe i'm doing something wrong.....maybe i'll get another opinion on how to shoot, cause apart from that, I like it a lot, just the damn LAG,

And there is a lot of hype about certain cameras, people need to get infos on this matter.

voila

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bzx Regular Member • Posts: 215
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I know precisely what the OP is saying. You do lose the facial expression of a toddler sometimes, or its posture while moving around. Ok, nothing new or to debate against. I think the misunderstanding is in the words "too slow" and "for me". I get an 80% success ratio in capturing the exact moment with my 4yr old active child and that's not too slow, for me though. My dslr gave me 90%. Manual focusing gives me 70%. I'm quite happy with these figures but I would also keep an eye for lower shutter lag on the XE3. I can't think of many other applications this camera would be too slow except sports.

Fast/slow is subjective and we understand what OP is saying, although his depiction of the AF speed issue looks like trolling (exaggerated expressions like "way to slow", and no use case provided), so why would actually anybody care about this?

We wish him good luck in finding new camera, and hopefully posting no more threads like this on Oly/Sony/CaNik forums about the new purchase.

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You should look at Micro 4/3's first
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Segaman wrote:

Going back to dslr, this camera is way too slow for shooting, unless you take a turtle doing a slow motion dance.
I will try to find something small that can do faster shooting.
Not sure what.....yet

If you want a fast mirror less camera you should go to Micro Four Thirds. I personally like Panasonic both bodies and glass over anything Olympus. The GH-3 is a great camera and they just announced the GH-4.

Anyway, AF and quickness like you need are in that system and you would not have to get a DSLR and larger lenses and potentially spend more money.

The only reason I switched from Micro Four Thirds to Fuji X is I approached this as a photographer wanting more manual control and at the same time a larger sensor. AF response was not critical to me.

Fuji X is the digital version of a manual film camera using Fuji slide film (E-6). Call it a photographers camera system.

Micro Four Thirds has very nice optics and some of the Panasonic glass uses a Leica formula. I have no problem to continue to highly recommend Panasonic.

It is worth a comparison to the DSLR you are looking for, but the small size still is very attractive in Micro Four Thirds as well.

John Gellings Senior Member • Posts: 1,630
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Segaman wrote:

Going back to dslr, this camera is way too slow for shooting, unless you take a turtle doing a slow motion dance.
I will try to find something small that can do faster shooting.
Not sure what.....yet

So, you are admiting to not doing your homeowrk?

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bzx wrote:

I know precisely what the OP is saying. You do lose the facial expression of a toddler sometimes, or its posture while moving around. Ok, nothing new or to debate against. I think the misunderstanding is in the words "too slow" and "for me". I get an 80% success ratio in capturing the exact moment with my 4yr old active child and that's not too slow, for me though. My dslr gave me 90%. Manual focusing gives me 70%. I'm quite happy with these figures but I would also keep an eye for lower shutter lag on the XE3. I can't think of many other applications this camera would be too slow except sports.

Fast/slow is subjective and we understand what OP is saying, although his depiction of the AF speed issue looks like trolling (exaggerated expressions like "way to slow", and no use case provided), so why would actually anybody care about this?

We wish him good luck in finding new camera, and hopefully posting no more threads like this on Oly/Sony/CaNik forums about the new purchase.

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Hi,

Maybe its sounds like exaggeration but I really find it difficult bout the lag, NOT THE AF

AF is great......its after that I find it difficult, when the camera lags, I hope someone helps me on this matter.

I'll shoot more this week end, I will use the AF Lock......and see what happens.

Got some infos on how to make the best of it? I'm listening

thanks

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