CP+ Rumor Roundup.....

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CP+ Rumor Roundup.....
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So, what does everybody think about the possibility of new product announcements at CP+? So far the only plausible rumor I've seen is the TC. What about the rumored K-60, or the alleged retro K-L? Any new scoop since that great thread on the same topic a week or so ago?

Any new predictions or rumors? A full frame Q? A special edition K-3 in full adamantium? K-02 designed by Jean Paul Gaultier?

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Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

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Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

You picked a bad time to make such affirmations

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awaldram wrote:

Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

You picked a bad time to make such affirmations

Not as bad if it was actually release as a real product

Would seem a bit expensive and futile to release 1.02 FW to only supersede it with an adapter enabling 1.12 a few days later.

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I'm hoping a new body is announced. I have no interest in a TC at the moment as I don't have any fast telephoto lenses to make it worthwhile, and I haven't been birding in almost a year.

Good observation on the FW lacking that addition. Does not bode well for those expecting a TC to be announced.

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Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

I know what you're thinking but a TC may not need a firmware update and/or the update could have already been there in the original firmware but just dormant until that particular TC is in use.

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awaldram wrote:

Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

I know what you're thinking but a TC may not need a firmware update and/or the update could have already been there in the original firmware but just dormant until that particular TC is in use.

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This site is usually pretty close to the money, I don;t think they got into all the hysterical chatter about the K3 having raw video, an additional motor (where the earplug was) etc. They are just predicting a new Pentax K-60 camera and two lenses (135-380mm f/4-5.6 and 18-70mm f/2.8-4.5). More mainstream and more likely, although they do have info about the TC, it is not on their list for CP+.

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135-380mm f/4-5.6 sounds good, usual unusual focal lengths for Pentax...

Make it a DA* please, and i might have to yield to my long-lens-lust.

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scanar wrote:

This site is usually pretty close to the money, I don;t think they got into all the hysterical chatter about the K3 having raw video, an additional motor (where the earplug was) etc. They are just predicting a new Pentax K-60 camera and two lenses (135-380mm f/4-5.6 and 18-70mm f/2.8-4.5). More mainstream and more likely, although they do have info about the TC, it is not on their list for CP+.

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Thank you for the link. There's also an interesting article on there showing the new Pentax WG's now branded and called the Ricoh WG.

Rumored specs on the alleged K-60 seem pretty interesting. I wonder if it would cannibalize K-3 sales, though. Especially if it's 24 mp AA-less. If the specs were correct, I'd be more apt to get a K-60 over the K-3 as ostebsibly you'd get similar IQ. I don't care about video, or selectable AA which I'd never use. Or dual SD card slots. AND it claims wifi, so the whole flucard thing would be moot. Doesn't seem like a smart move by Pentax in my opinion. If it is a myth, I'll upgrade to the K-3 from my K-5.

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Sorry, my link was not clear 'helped' by google translate no doubt. This is the article I was specifically meaning: translated page

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MightyMike wrote:

awaldram wrote:

Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

I know what you're thinking but a TC may not need a firmware update and/or the update could have already been there in the original firmware but just dormant until that particular TC is in use.

If that's true, then there is probably no hope for a third party TC ever working with SDM lenses.

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Russell Evans wrote:

MightyMike wrote:

awaldram wrote:

Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

I know what you're thinking but a TC may not need a firmware update and/or the update could have already been there in the original firmware but just dormant until that particular TC is in use.

If that's true, then there is probably no hope for a third party TC ever working with SDM lenses.

Thank you
Russell

There may have never been any hope to begin with... However i do believe there are some people who use some PZ capable TC's with some SDM/HSM lenses quite successfully. that shows to me that some combinations or some converters just don't work right and not a generic broad across the board problem with PZ capable TC's.

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Alex Sarbu wrote:

awaldram wrote:

Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

You picked a bad time to make such affirmations

Not as bad if it was actually release as a real product

Would seem a bit expensive and futile to release 1.02 FW to only supersede it with an adapter enabling 1.12 a few days later.

Alex

A fully chipped TC should not need any firmware change in the camera. The absence of a change in the camera would help encorage people to replace their old converters with the new one.

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Russell Evans wrote:

MightyMike wrote:

awaldram wrote:

Given Ricoh has just released 1.02 k3 FW that does not have 'adapter' enabling it has to cast doubt on the authenticity of an imminent TC release

I know what you're thinking but a TC may not need a firmware update and/or the update could have already been there in the original firmware but just dormant until that particular TC is in use.

If that's true, then there is probably no hope for a third party TC ever working with SDM lenses.

Thank you
Russell

There may have never been any hope to begin with... However i do believe there are some people who use some PZ capable TC's with some SDM/HSM lenses quite successfully. that shows to me that some combinations or some converters just don't work right and not a generic broad across the board problem with PZ capable TC's.

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Well my Pentax man says the teleconverter is on the way for march, but who knows? the "french leak" (K600,K60, KL Retro) seemed believable to me but it could be a nonsense. If Ricoh want to keep the momentum going their going to have to make several announcements, the flucard is of course necessary, otherwise things will start to look a bit bleak again.

All the other manufacturers are bringing all sorts of cams, I've never known it so hot, the choice has never been greater!

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My Sigma 50mm F1.4 works with my Tamron 1.4x PZ... my only other HSM/SDM lens is the Sigma 8-16 and i really couldn't be bothered testing it on that.

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DAVID MANZE wrote:

Hi,

Well my Pentax man says the teleconverter is on the way for march, but who knows?

Hopefully!

the "french leak" (K600,K60, KL Retro) seemed believable to me but it could be a nonsense.

There was no leak, the guy was just guessing what Pentax would come up with next - you know, one of those posts people write when they have trouble falling aslep. The french text was full of hypotheticals and conditionals, and certainly didn't intend to be read as a leaked info. I'm not sure how it translated, as i speak french fluently.

If Ricoh want to keep the momentum going their going to have to make several announcements, the flucard is of course necessary, otherwise things will start to look a bit bleak again.

ff? pffff. flucard...

or the other way round!

All the other manufacturers are bringing all sorts of cams, I've never known it so hot, the choice has never been greater!

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A fully chipped TC should not need any firmware change in the camera. The absence of a change in the camera would help encorage people to replace their old converters with the new one.

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And if it did need a firmware rev it would need to be released for many cameras. A step in the K3 firmware doesn't mean anything either way

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sgtsween wrote:

So, what does everybody think about the possibility of new product announcements at CP+? So far the only plausible rumor I've seen is the TC. What about the rumored K-60, or the alleged retro K-L? Any new scoop since that great thread on the same topic a week or so ago?

Any new predictions or rumors? A full frame Q? A special edition K-3 in full adamantium? K-02 designed by Jean Paul Gaultier?

TC

645D MK II

Full frame, under glass with no ship date.

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