New Printer Cartridge Question

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iwaddo77
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New Printer Cartridge Question
6 months ago

Hi,

I am undecided between Canon Pro-10 & Pro-100 or Epson R2000 & R3000, however one thing that is putting me off the R3000 is the way the manual suggests I have to switch between Photo Black and Matte Black and that I will lose ink in the process.

So two related questions,

1, are there any R3000 owners out there who can advise whether this 'switching' is a problem or am I worrying about nothing?

2, are there any other similar quirks with my remaining three options that I ought to be aware of?

Of course any other observations on either of these printers greatly appreciated.

Thank you

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In reply to iwaddo77, 6 months ago

iwaddo77 wrote:

Hi,

I am undecided between Canon Pro-10 & Pro-100 or Epson R2000 & R3000, however one thing that is putting me off the R3000 is the way the manual suggests I have to switch between Photo Black and Matte Black and that I will lose ink in the process.

So two related questions,

1, are there any R3000 owners out there who can advise whether this 'switching' is a problem or am I worrying about nothing?

2, are there any other similar quirks with my remaining three options that I ought to be aware of?

Of course any other observations on either of these printers greatly appreciated.

Thank you

The Epson R3000 / R2400 / R2880 PRO 3800 / 3880 and others share the MK and PK channel so when you do switch from Matte to Glossy Media your will have to do the black ink switch. In fact this is done automatically so you have no choice.
It will use up a few ml of ink every time you change media type. So you have to plan your printing runs carefully.

The R2000 does not share black channels so there is no switch, however it only has one single black per media type so they are not as good for B&W printing.

The Canon  PRO-100 PRO-10 and PRO-1 have individual black channels. No black ink switch.

Joe

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In reply to jtoolman, 6 months ago

Thank you, I just now need to decide which one to purchase 

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I have the Pro-10 and am very satisfied. The few b&w prints I have made have come out great with no casts. With the rebates my cost was $300; not bad for a $700 printer.

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In reply to Droppingin, 6 months ago

There seem to be more rebates on the Pixma-Pro 100 than the Pixma-Pro 10, but Canon ran some more aggressive one on the Pixma-Pro 10 late last year.

I believe all the printers you mention have 3rd party inks available but the Pixma-Pro 10, although Precisions Colors says a set is under development.

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In reply to jtoolman, 5 months ago

jtoolman wrote:

iwaddo77 wrote:

Hi,

I am undecided between Canon Pro-10 & Pro-100 or Epson R2000 & R3000, however one thing that is putting me off the R3000 is the way the manual suggests I have to switch between Photo Black and Matte Black and that I will lose ink in the process.

So two related questions,

1, are there any R3000 owners out there who can advise whether this 'switching' is a problem or am I worrying about nothing?

2, are there any other similar quirks with my remaining three options that I ought to be aware of?

Of course any other observations on either of these printers greatly appreciated.

Thank you

The Epson R3000 / R2400 / R2880 PRO 3800 / 3880 and others share the MK and PK channel so when you do switch from Matte to Glossy Media your will have to do the black ink switch. In fact this is done automatically so you have no choice.
It will use up a few ml of ink every time you change media type. So you have to plan your printing runs carefully.

The R2000 does not share black channels so there is no switch, however it only has one single black per media type so they are not as good for B&W printing.

The Canon PRO-100 PRO-10 and PRO-1 have individual black channels. No black ink switch.

Joe

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In reply to bhill643, 5 months ago

Was there a point to this post?

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In reply to Gesture, 5 months ago

Gesture wrote:

I believe all the printers you mention have 3rd party inks available but the Pixma-Pro 10, although Precisions Colors says a set is under development.

To be honest having paid out for a decent printer to get better prints than my current HP6510 I would not have even considered using 3rd party inks, it seems from the forum there are many doing it though, is that the case?

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In reply to iwaddo77, 5 months ago

Yes.  I am not selling prints or worried about a print lasting hundreds of years.  When I did black and white traditional printing I did and my procedures have proven "archival" 30 years out. But with digital, it really is a matter of pushing a button to generate a duplicate.

I only use OEM carts if I can find new old stock on eBay. The OEM inks are simply too expensive, but commercial photographers can justify the price. There is also a company out of Canada that sells on eBay PIGMENT ink 3rd party carts at a very good price if one doesn't want to refill.

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