E-M5 Firmware update... V 2.0 today..

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In reply to Art_P, 11 months ago

Art_P wrote:

My 12-50 got an update too, and the 45 (I think... I lost track which lens got the update after going through all my lenses)

The update for the 12-50 (which I don't have) was released November 28 2013 and that for the 45 (which I do have) on September 19 2013 so neither is brand new. But thanks for the heads-up anyway.

The update for the 45 appears to be relevant only for users of certain Pany bodies (GF6, G6, GH3) but I might want to get it done nevertheless.

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In reply to Steen Bay, 11 months ago

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These were two things I had wanted on the E-M5 - so glad they added them. Smaller point focus desired for shallow DoF portraits and for much of my landscape shooting I end up over exposing ISO200 already and will be glad to have the extended ISO100 to do it for me (or at least start out closer).

Hi Ken,

Long time no see. Glad to see you around.

But as to the ISO 100: Why would you even want to use that as a RAW shooter? Surely, all the ISO 100 setting does is to alter the metering and the tone curve of the OOC jpegs. The clipping point in RAW stays unchanged and if you go by the live-view "blinkies" when setting exposure, as I do, there is no difference between ISO 100 and ISO 200.

If shooting mid/low contrast scenes/subjects (using ETTR), won't ISO 100 then give a less 'washed out' live-view image in the EVF and more natural looking JPEGs?

Yes, it would, and that may possibly be an advantage with regard to in-camera review even for a RAW shooter at times. On the other hand, high-contrast scenes will now come out looking more "underexposed" than they would at ISO 200 so it is a mixed blessing (unless you take the trouble to switch between 100 and 200 depending on the contrast of the scene).

Another little problem with the "fake" ISO 100 setting is that it makes things inconsistent across ISOs. If I ETTR at ISO 400 (which makes sense on the E-M5 when you can't saturate the sensor at ISO 100/200), things will look different in terms of brightness than if I ETTR the same scene at ISO 100. Staying with the regular ISOs makes things consistent in that regard.

Small focus box without having to change to zoom-frame AF: Well, I am just as happy to have that as you are. This was at the very top of my list of things to be fixed.

There is of course a long list of other things I want to - but these were near the top of the list and there will always be another feature for me to be annoyed by (AEB Fn access - argh!).

As to focus peaking I may be remembering wrong but I thought at some point in the past some one from Olympus had said in an interview that appropriate processing and hardware resources were needed to effectively implement focus peaking and so it might not be practical to do on older models. It was a long time ago and I might be confusing this with a Panasonic interview on the G/GH series cameras instead.

Personally I've tried focus peaking on a few cameras and didn't find it useful, but since I didn't own those cameras and couldn't use it for long enough it is quite possible I just was familiar enough with the implementation to use it effectively.

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Re: E-M5 Firmware update... V 2.0 today..
In reply to Christophotog, 11 months ago

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Just updated my E-M5 to V 2.0 which was released today.

Small A/F point was added which shows a 5 x 7 matrix of small focus points.

LOW ISO extension also added.

Those were the release note items and there is no sign of other unannounced additions that I can see (yet).

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Chris

Is the setting of the small focus point kept in camera when you turn it off and back on again or needs to be selected everytime?

I'd like to have the small focus point all the time as I turn the camera on without selecting it everytime. Thanks

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In reply to giaccophoto, 11 months ago

small or normal.  no resetting every time you power up

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Re: Hurray!!!
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Anders W wrote:

Steen Bay wrote:

Anders W wrote:

kenw wrote:

These were two things I had wanted on the E-M5 - so glad they added them. Smaller point focus desired for shallow DoF portraits and for much of my landscape shooting I end up over exposing ISO200 already and will be glad to have the extended ISO100 to do it for me (or at least start out closer).

Hi Ken,

Long time no see. Glad to see you around.

But as to the ISO 100: Why would you even want to use that as a RAW shooter? Surely, all the ISO 100 setting does is to alter the metering and the tone curve of the OOC jpegs. The clipping point in RAW stays unchanged and if you go by the live-view "blinkies" when setting exposure, as I do, there is no difference between ISO 100 and ISO 200.

If shooting mid/low contrast scenes/subjects (using ETTR), won't ISO 100 then give a less 'washed out' live-view image in the EVF and more natural looking JPEGs?

Yes, it would, and that may possibly be an advantage with regard to in-camera review even for a RAW shooter at times. On the other hand, high-contrast scenes will now come out looking more "underexposed" than they would at ISO 200 so it is a mixed blessing (unless you take the trouble to switch between 100 and 200 depending on the contrast of the scene).

Another little problem with the "fake" ISO 100 setting is that it makes things inconsistent across ISOs. If I ETTR at ISO 400 (which makes sense on the E-M5 when you can't saturate the sensor at ISO 100/200), things will look different in terms of brightness than if I ETTR the same scene at ISO 100. Staying with the regular ISOs makes things consistent in that regard.

Yes, a bit confusing if the tone curve and amount of headroom vary at different ISOs. And btw, maybe you could check whether ISO 100 actually is a 'fake' ISO. Would be very surprising if it isn't, but don't think that anybody has checked it yet.

Small focus box without having to change to zoom-frame AF: Well, I am just as happy to have that as you are. This was at the very top of my list of things to be fixed.

There is of course a long list of other things I want to - but these were near the top of the list and there will always be another feature for me to be annoyed by (AEB Fn access - argh!).

As to focus peaking I may be remembering wrong but I thought at some point in the past some one from Olympus had said in an interview that appropriate processing and hardware resources were needed to effectively implement focus peaking and so it might not be practical to do on older models. It was a long time ago and I might be confusing this with a Panasonic interview on the G/GH series cameras instead.

Personally I've tried focus peaking on a few cameras and didn't find it useful, but since I didn't own those cameras and couldn't use it for long enough it is quite possible I just was familiar enough with the implementation to use it effectively.

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Interetsting...
In reply to Anders W, 11 months ago

Was sure I had checked my lenses more recently than that.

But now that I think of it... probably haven't checked since September.... before my trip to Scotland.

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Thanks for that tip, and here's the link to the Oly lens FW
In reply to Art_P, 11 months ago

current versions and upgrade dates. Now, I'm gonna have to check my Pany and Sigma lenses...

http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/support/imsg/digicamera/download/software/firm/e1/

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Re: E-M5 Firmware update... V 2.0 today..
In reply to Christophotog, 11 months ago

I'm a bit sorry that they did not include the flicker reduction menu like in my E-PM2. Set to off, it completely takes care of the "rattlesnake" sound coming from some lenses. I sent an email to Olympus a couple of months ago about this, and they told me that they have no plan upgrading the firmware. Well, finally they did (thank you), but they did not listen...

Oh well, guess we may still be happy anyway.

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Re: E-M5 Firmware update... V 2.0 today..
In reply to photofan1986, 11 months ago

Does this firmware upgrade reset the camera like all other firmware upgrads ?

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Is there an easy way to electronically save and restore camera settings ?

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No, the camera settings will not be reset.

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Focus peaking soon to come?
In reply to Christophotog, 11 months ago

As someone posted on 43rumors, there is an E-M10 review that says:

"E-M5 owners should note that a firmware update is on the way to enable focus peaking, bringing the original OM-D more in line with its new baby brother"

http://cameras.reviewed.com/content/olympus-om-d-e-m10-digital-camera-review

Interesting since today's firmware update doesn't seem to enable focus peaking..…maybe they cancelled it in the last minute? Or it is a somewhat hidden feature, undetected by the upgraders? Or will it come in a second update for technical reasons?

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I don't remember my earlier FW upgrades resetting my cameras. (nt)
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Re: E-M5 Firmware update... V 2.0 today..
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Whit ISO 100, do I´ll still need ND filters to shoot PL 25 and OLY 75, wide open in bright light??

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Whit ISO 100, do I´ll still need ND filters to shoot PL 25 and OLY 75, wide open in bright light??

What do you think?

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I think it depends on what you mean with "bright light"

But beware that the DR is reduce when shooting at 100 ISO.

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Is it just me, or the new firmware also improved the AF in low light a bit?

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Steen Bay wrote:

Anders W wrote:

Steen Bay wrote:

Anders W wrote:

kenw wrote:

These were two things I had wanted on the E-M5 - so glad they added them. Smaller point focus desired for shallow DoF portraits and for much of my landscape shooting I end up over exposing ISO200 already and will be glad to have the extended ISO100 to do it for me (or at least start out closer).

Hi Ken,

Long time no see. Glad to see you around.

But as to the ISO 100: Why would you even want to use that as a RAW shooter? Surely, all the ISO 100 setting does is to alter the metering and the tone curve of the OOC jpegs. The clipping point in RAW stays unchanged and if you go by the live-view "blinkies" when setting exposure, as I do, there is no difference between ISO 100 and ISO 200.

If shooting mid/low contrast scenes/subjects (using ETTR), won't ISO 100 then give a less 'washed out' live-view image in the EVF and more natural looking JPEGs?

Yes, it would, and that may possibly be an advantage with regard to in-camera review even for a RAW shooter at times. On the other hand, high-contrast scenes will now come out looking more "underexposed" than they would at ISO 200 so it is a mixed blessing (unless you take the trouble to switch between 100 and 200 depending on the contrast of the scene).

Another little problem with the "fake" ISO 100 setting is that it makes things inconsistent across ISOs. If I ETTR at ISO 400 (which makes sense on the E-M5 when you can't saturate the sensor at ISO 100/200), things will look different in terms of brightness than if I ETTR the same scene at ISO 100. Staying with the regular ISOs makes things consistent in that regard.

Yes, a bit confusing if the tone curve and amount of headroom vary at different ISOs. And btw, maybe you could check whether ISO 100 actually is a 'fake' ISO. Would be very surprising if it isn't, but don't think that anybody has checked it yet.

OK. I'll try to get that done (although I'd be extremely surprised if it weren't fake).

Small focus box without having to change to zoom-frame AF: Well, I am just as happy to have that as you are. This was at the very top of my list of things to be fixed.

There is of course a long list of other things I want to - but these were near the top of the list and there will always be another feature for me to be annoyed by (AEB Fn access - argh!).

As to focus peaking I may be remembering wrong but I thought at some point in the past some one from Olympus had said in an interview that appropriate processing and hardware resources were needed to effectively implement focus peaking and so it might not be practical to do on older models. It was a long time ago and I might be confusing this with a Panasonic interview on the G/GH series cameras instead.

Personally I've tried focus peaking on a few cameras and didn't find it useful, but since I didn't own those cameras and couldn't use it for long enough it is quite possible I just was familiar enough with the implementation to use it effectively.

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Anders W wrote:

kenw wrote:

These were two things I had wanted on the E-M5 - so glad they added them. Smaller point focus desired for shallow DoF portraits and for much of my landscape shooting I end up over exposing ISO200 already and will be glad to have the extended ISO100 to do it for me (or at least start out closer).

Hi Ken,

Long time no see. Glad to see you around.

me 2.

Small focus box without having to change to zoom-frame AF: Well, I am just as happy to have that as you are. This was at the very top of my list of things to be fixed.

Dead right, Anders!

The new box is smaller than the 14x that I've been using up to now. And a quick check in this dim office suggests that focussing - even with the 20mm f1.7 - is more positive (i.e. less hunting) for instance on my black keyboard at 1.3sec f1.7 ISO200.

Could also be very useful for the BIF contingent!

(eg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/watchman/9218087590/ )

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Michael J Davis wrote:

Anders W wrote:

kenw wrote:

These were two things I had wanted on the E-M5 - so glad they added them. Smaller point focus desired for shallow DoF portraits and for much of my landscape shooting I end up over exposing ISO200 already and will be glad to have the extended ISO100 to do it for me (or at least start out closer).

Hi Ken,

Long time no see. Glad to see you around.

me 2.

Small focus box without having to change to zoom-frame AF: Well, I am just as happy to have that as you are. This was at the very top of my list of things to be fixed.

Dead right, Anders!

The new box is smaller than the 14x that I've been using up to now. And a quick check in this dim office suggests that focussing - even with the 20mm f1.7 - is more positive (i.e. less hunting) for instance on my black keyboard at 1.3sec f1.7 ISO200.

Could also be very useful for the BIF contingent!

(eg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/watchman/9218087590/ )

Absolutely Mike. The bigger focus box with standard AF (and the need to switch over to zoom-frame AF to get a smaller one) was one of very few areas where I felt I downgraded when I went from the Pany G1 to the Oly E-M5. Glad to be back to "normalcy" in this regard.

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Some people are never happy.

I want my E-M5 to make me a vodka tonic when I get home from work.  I thinks it's a downright sin that it doesn't already have that feature.  I hope that will be available in v 2.1...

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I thought Olympus said that the E-M5's processor couldn't handle focus peaking.

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