Grafitti Galore...Austin Style!

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Grafitti Galore...Austin Style!
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These were captured in Austin, Texas earlier this month. I decided not to convert them to Black & White!

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Great stuff as usual, Very graphic, can see why you did not convert to B&W...  

Thanks for sharing.

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I rather like no. 2. Much better than cat pictures

Here's my contribution. D800 color test shots, nothing artistic here, just fun color.

Playa del Carmen's not as weird as Austin, but the topless beach is better.

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Whether legal or not some graffiti may well be considered copyrighted, hence copying without the creator's permission may be a problem. This probably applies more to specific, well-executed, original works that are easy to identify. Copying, ie photographing, might be considered a breach however the image is used.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090408065521AAmCeYX

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Great stuff as usual, Very graphic, can see why you did not convert to B&W...

Thanks for sharing.

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Thanks very much...

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coronawithlime wrote:

I rather like no. 2. Much better than cat pictures

Here's my contribution. D800 color test shots, nothing artistic here, just fun color.

Playa del Carmen's not as weird as Austin, but the topless beach is better.

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Thanks! And, thank for posting your grafitti pictures.

Glenn

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Paul Skelcher wrote:

Whether legal or not some graffiti may well be considered copyrighted, hence copying without the creator's permission may be a problem. This probably applies more to specific, well-executed, original works that are easy to identify. Copying, ie photographing, might be considered a breach however the image is used.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090408065521AAmCeYX

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Thanks Paul...

Very interesting. It seems hard to believe that taking photographs in a public park could be illegal--unless of course I tried to profit from the grafitti artwork. Perhaps my problem is placing my own copyright on the grafitti images.

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...& nicely captured. However, in the way that you have composed & captured the artwork, placing & claiming copyright in your photographs is likely to be inappropriate & legally incorrect (possibly making you liable). Despite the work being "Public Art", it was created by someone else. Some your pics actually show it to be signed. It may even have been paid commissioned work. It's wise to be careful photographing artwork & publishing it with your copyright on the photos. Just my couple of cents 

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...& nicely captured. However, in the way that you have composed & captured the artwork, placing & claiming copyright in your photographs is likely to be inappropriate & legally incorrect (possibly making you liable). Despite the work being "Public Art", it was created by someone else. Some your pics actually show it to be signed. It may even have been paid commissioned work. It's wise to be careful photographing artwork & publishing it with your copyright on the photos. Just my couple of cents

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Thanks Stomie...I appreciate your comment. I am going to pull these photos down as I don't wish to create any copyright issues for me or the grafitti artists!

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Whether legal or not some graffiti may well be considered copyrighted, hence copying without the creator's permission may be a problem. This probably applies more to specific, well-executed, original works that are easy to identify. Copying, ie photographing, might be considered a breach however the image is used.

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Interesting. thanks for sharing.

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Stomie wrote:

...& nicely captured. However, in the way that you have composed & captured the artwork, placing & claiming copyright in your photographs is likely to be inappropriate & legally incorrect (possibly making you liable). Despite the work being "Public Art", it was created by someone else. Some your pics actually show it to be signed. It may even have been paid commissioned work. It's wise to be careful photographing artwork & publishing it with your copyright on the photos. Just my couple of cents

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Thanks Stomie...I appreciate your comment. I am going to pull these photos down as I don't wish to create any copyright issues for me or the grafitti artists!

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Maybe a silly question but.....

Did the "artists" have an authorization to paint on these walls ? If not, their "work" is illegal IMHO ! ...hence they don't have any copyright !

.....and YOU have all freedom to take pictures and signing them !

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Maybe a silly question but.....

Did the "artists" have an authorization to paint on these walls ? If not, their "work" is illegal IMHO ! ...hence they don't have any copyright !

.....and YOU have all freedom to take pictures and signing them !

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In this case, the artists have permission to paint on the walls. This is a public grafitti park. I'm thinking I have permission to take pictures of the grafitti, but that those images can only be used for editorial purposes--not for commercial purposes. Then again, I could be wrong!

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In this case, the artists have permission to paint on the walls. This is a public grafitti park. I'm thinking I have permission to take pictures of the grafitti, but that those images can only be used for editorial purposes--not for commercial purposes. Then again, I could be wrong!

Glenn

Glenn,

Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that a general picture of the park including multiple graffiti would be ok for editorial use, ie educational, informative etc.  Not so sure that an image of one graffito could be regarded the same way.  You are, after all, copying a copyrighted work, irrespective of your use.

You can Google cases of upset artists whose paintings and sculptures have been photographed without permission.

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Great shots. There's an area in Miami where the buildings are decorated with really artistic graffiti. If you're interested here's some photos I took there: http://jmlphotography.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Miami-Wyndham-Area-Graffitti

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Paul Skelcher wrote:

Whether legal or not some graffiti may well be considered copyrighted, hence copying without the creator's permission may be a problem. This probably applies more to specific, well-executed, original works that are easy to identify. Copying, ie photographing, might be considered a breach however the image is used.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090408065521AAmCeYX

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I personally think we're getting into gray areas here. Can the city of Austin sue for taking pictures of it's public building and posting on-line. Do I have to get permission from the parks & recreational services cause I shot a tree at a federal park?

Sounds silly doesn't it. Yeah.

Let's just enjoy the work for what it is and leave the legalize for those that get worried about such things.

Anyway really love the work Mr. Nagel. Keep shooting

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gnagel wrote:

Stomie wrote:

...& nicely captured. However, in the way that you have composed & captured the artwork, placing & claiming copyright in your photographs is likely to be inappropriate & legally incorrect (possibly making you liable). Despite the work being "Public Art", it was created by someone else. Some your pics actually show it to be signed. It may even have been paid commissioned work. It's wise to be careful photographing artwork & publishing it with your copyright on the photos. Just my couple of cents

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Thanks Stomie...I appreciate your comment. I am going to pull these photos down as I don't wish to create any copyright issues for me or the grafitti artists!

Glenn

Maybe a silly question but.....

Did the "artists" have an authorization to paint on these walls ? If not, their "work" is illegal IMHO ! ...hence they don't have any copyright !

.....and YOU have all freedom to take pictures and signing them !

Well, after all, this is a country where the criminals have the right to sue for better benefits 

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Great shots. There's an area in Miami where the buildings are decorated with really artistic graffiti. If you're interested here's some photos I took there: http://jmlphotography.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Miami-Wyndham-Area-Graffitti

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Not sure what I think on the copyright issue myself, but should it really be a valid concern I would think that these types of images would likely be more subject to protection than those of the original poster.

I did enjoy them Mitrajoon, thanx for posting.  Liked your website by the way.

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Paul Skelcher wrote:

In this case, the artists have permission to paint on the walls. This is a public grafitti park. I'm thinking I have permission to take pictures of the grafitti, but that those images can only be used for editorial purposes--not for commercial purposes. Then again, I could be wrong!

Glenn

Glenn,

Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that a general picture of the park including multiple graffiti would be ok for editorial use, ie educational, informative etc. Not so sure that an image of one graffito could be regarded the same way. You are, after all, copying a copyrighted work, irrespective of your use.

You can Google cases of upset artists whose paintings and sculptures have been photographed without permission.

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I'm thinking that editorial usage would be acceptable. But, offering prints for sale of an image that represents someone else's work seems to present more issues.

Glenn

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Mitrajoon wrote:

Great shots. There's an area in Miami where the buildings are decorated with really artistic graffiti. If you're interested here's some photos I took there: http://jmlphotography.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Miami-Wyndham-Area-Graffitti

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Thanks Jim...very cool images. I'll have to find the graffiti the next time I visit Miami,

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ADMint wrote:

I personally think we're getting into gray areas here. Can the city of Austin sue for taking pictures of it's public building and posting on-line. Do I have to get permission from the parks & recreational services cause I shot a tree at a federal park?

Sounds silly doesn't it. Yeah.

Let's just enjoy the work for what it is and leave the legalize for those that get worried about such things.

Anyway really love the work Mr. Nagel. Keep shooting

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Thanks! I will keep on shooting...

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