Want to do a wet sensor clean myself

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Want to do a wet sensor clean myself
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Which wet sensor cleaning kit do you recommend that i can buy from a UK site, preferrably amazon.co.uk? Tired of sending my camera off to nikon as have always done this. Please advise. (d800 full frame kit)
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Visible-Dust-Sensor-Loupe-7x/dp/B0017KT21K

I use the loupe (indispensable), pecpads, sensor swabs and eclipse. no more.

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In reply to primeshooter, 11 months ago

"Help, did I screw up my sensor?" thread:  http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52937971

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but just be very careful going about it.

I have used the Visible Dust swabs on my D200.  After 2 tries I still had 1 dust spot visible on my images, but I can live with it as it is easily fixed in PP.  Luckily I've managed to dodge the dust bullet with my D700.

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In reply to PenPix, 11 months ago

There is a lot of stuff written about self-cleaning vs not doing it and most of it is mythology. If you are capable with your hands (i.e. not a total klutz) you will be fine if you do your research.

I clean all of my camera sensors when I need to (D90, D700, D800) and have had no problems. The only thing to be aware of is that when you do it, be ready to take an afternoon if necessary. Some will tell you they can clean a camera in 10 minutes, but in my experience that is nonsense. If you do it properly it will take a minimum of an hour but can take much longer, and you may need to do it, and redo it and redo it. It may never be 'perfect' (with no dust at all) but it can be really close.  I started cleaning my own after spending hundreds of dollars at a camera store (the local official Nikon repair place) and it coming back almost as bad as it went in.

I have tried the really expensive ready-prepared cleaning wands, but the best seems to be the stuff from Copperhill. They have a number of kits available and some excellent videos, and for the cost of 2 camera store cleans you can set yourself up for a couple of years.

Remember that you are NOT cleaning the sensor but a filter that sits on top of the sensor. Even those cameras without the AA filter (like the D800e) still have a filter in front of the sensor.

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Watch the video here:

www.visibledust.com

and then click "video" on top of the page.

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primeshooter wrote:

Which wet sensor cleaning kit do you recommend that i can buy from a UK site, preferrably amazon.co.uk? Tired of sending my camera off to nikon as have always done this. Please advise. (d800 full frame kit)

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52938473

IMO, Visible Dust products are over-priced. If you cannot get Copper Hill Images products in the UK, consider getting one or more generic swabs, a pack of PEC PADs (Peter Piper picked a pack of PEC PADs...) to replace the pads on the swab, a bottle of Eclipse liquid, and a Nylon cosmetic brush.

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primeshooter wrote:

Which wet sensor cleaning kit do you recommend that i can buy from a UK site, preferrably amazon.co.uk? Tired of sending my camera off to nikon as have always done this. Please advise. (d800 full frame kit)

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52938473

IMO, Visible Dust products are over-priced. If you cannot get Copper Hill Images products in the UK, consider getting one or more generic swabs, a pack of PEC PADs (Peter Piper picked a pack of PEC PADs...) to replace the pads on the swab, a bottle of Eclipse liquid, and a Nylon cosmetic brush.

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Hi Robin,

Seems quite a current topic.

A question, I remember seeing (thought it was on Rob Galbraith's site, but cannot find the reference on his right now, but found on another site), a method to substitute a mixture of Isopropyl Alcohol and Windex or water, on the site I have found it is stated as a mixture with Windex.

Have you or anyone you know used this to good effect (with Pec Pads instead of Eclipse)?

Cheers

See the bottom of the page here: quote ''Canon - Blower and a Kimwipe, held by tweezers. They do not like to use fluid but when necessary they use either 90% isopropyl alcohol or a 50/50 mixture of isopropyl alcohol and Windex.''

at www:

cleaningdigitalcameras.com/methods.html

As I said, I came across this elsewhere as well.

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Bajerunner wrote:

Hi Robin,

Seems quite a current topic.

A question, I remember seeing (thought it was on Rob Galbraith's site, but cannot find the reference on his right now, but found on another site), a method to substitute a mixture of Isopropyl Alcohol and Windex or water, on the site I have found it is stated as a mixture with Windex.

Have you or anyone you know used this to good effect (with Pec Pads instead of Eclipse)?

I've only used Eclipse. I've heard of people using medical grade methanol. Supposedly, that is what Nikon Japan uses. Methanol is an ingredient in Eclipse, and may be the only ingredient.

A bottle of Eclipse will last a long time. I see no reason to mess with making your own.

Most Windex cleaners contain ammonia. I would NEVER use that in a DSLR.

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It happens that my local store carries the Visible Dust swabs for an outrageous (5 x street!) price.

Next time, I'll order on amazon (also in the UK Amazon )

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Greetings!

I am using, for years now, for my NIKON SLRs - Sensor Swabs and Ecclipse fluid.

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I have orered this:

http://photographylife.com/product/sensor-gel-stick

Anyone have any experience?

There is a video showing a technician using at on the Leica assembly line.

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Robin Casady wrote:

IMO, Visible Dust products are over-priced. If you cannot get Copper Hill Images products in the UK, consider getting one or more generic swabs, a pack of PEC PADs (Peter Piper picked a pack of PEC PADs...) to replace the pads on the swab, a bottle of Eclipse liquid, and a Nylon cosmetic brush.

Robin,

Good advice Robin, as usual. Copperhill ships several cleaning kits internationally, here is one:

Copper hill kit

Only one time have I left a streak with Eclipse, I just used a dry Quikstrip very gently and it cleaned it right up. I believe I didn't wait long enough after applying the fluid before swabbing, they say to give it 15 to 20 seconds.

BTW, you get 100 strips in each kit which should last a couple of years, darn good value compared to V-Swabs.

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Agreed. I've cleaned sensors many times since the D70 days using this method.

I haven't once wished that I hadn't cleaned it myself. After all, I don't send my lenses away to get cleaned, why on earth should I do so with my camera

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I started with Sensor Swabs and Eclipse when I bought my new D1.  I have never had a problem, although I did initially use too much fluid and too many swabs.  Just a learning curve.

I don't know for sure if they are available on UK sites, but I suspect that they are.

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I use a blower, a brush, and sensor gel stick, like http://photographylife.com/product/sensor-gel-stick

Basically the process is much like http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/04/how-to-clean-a-camera-sensor though I do not use rotating brushes, a normal Copperhill brush is quite enough for me. If there is something really nasty you can either use sensor pen, as in the video, or - and I prefer it - wet method with eclipse and swabs. Gel stick will pick up any residue from eclipse overdose if you happen to have it.

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I cleaned my D800 yesterday in about 5 to 10 minutes using exactly what Raul recommended.

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Just a quick point.  If you decide to use a nylon brush from the cosmetic counter, be sure to wash it thoroughly (like 4 or 5 times) in mild detergent and then let it dry completely.  When sold, they are covered with a fine powder that apparently helps with cosmetics but makes a mess of a sensor.

But Robin is correct.  It's the same brush that Visible Dust charges a bunch of money for.

(Source is a Digital Lloyd article from something like 2008 where he took pictures of dust coming off a new cosmetic brush - fairly convincing evidence, anyway it's easy to do.)

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PenPix wrote:

"Help, did I screw up my sensor?" thread: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52937971

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but just be very careful going about it.

I have used the Visible Dust swabs on my D200. After 2 tries I still had 1 dust spot visible on my images, but I can live with it as it is easily fixed in PP. Luckily I've managed to dodge the dust bullet with my D700.

I was the person who started this thread.  I will never buy visible dust products again - they left a film on my sensor that just wouldn't go away, no matter how much wiping, scraping and rubbing I did (I'm exaggerating a bit here!).  It almost looked like scratches (the reason I started the thread)

The very first wipe from a competing product got rid of the film.

After all of that, I'm won't have any problems cleaning my own sensor (using the right product), and will continue to do so.

I did find cleaning it somewhat frustrating though, as it seems like a pretty imperfect solution (no pun intended):  With each clean, it seemed like it got rid of some dust, but added other dust.  I took 7 wipes (actually, 14 if you count one way then the other) to get rid of 95% of the dust (I still have a bit).

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mactac wrote:

PenPix wrote:

"Help, did I screw up my sensor?" thread: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52937971

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but just be very careful going about it.

I have used the Visible Dust swabs on my D200. After 2 tries I still had 1 dust spot visible on my images, but I can live with it as it is easily fixed in PP. Luckily I've managed to dodge the dust bullet with my D700.

I was the person who started this thread. I will never buy visible dust products again - they left a film on my sensor that just wouldn't go away, no matter how much wiping, scraping and rubbing I did (I'm exaggerating a bit here!). It almost looked like scratches (the reason I started the thread)

The very first wipe from a competing product got rid of the film.

After all of that, I'm won't have any problems cleaning my own sensor (using the right product), and will continue to do so.

I did find cleaning it somewhat frustrating though, as it seems like a pretty imperfect solution (no pun intended): With each clean, it seemed like it got rid of some dust, but added other dust. I took 7 wipes (actually, 14 if you count one way then the other) to get rid of 95% of the dust (I still have a bit).

Are you using a rocket blower and a charged brush?  That should remove any residual dust.

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